I think its time to admit that Kanye has eclipsed Jay-z as

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i disagree, but i cant even be mad at any one that agrees with the OP. Its just about taste, you could make an argument for either of them being better than the other.
 

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Reasonable Doubt > MBDTF


Its comes close. But nah.


Its funny, im not even a hater. im actually a huge fan of Jay-z :ehh:. But when you look at him from a artistic or musical standpoint he is lacking.


The closest jigga album that could stack up to MBDTF is The Black album, music wise and concept wise.
 

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Name one :yeshrug:




And please dont bring up American Gangster, the album by the mid 30s rapper rapping like he did in his 20s about being a fantasy drug dealer boss in 2008 :comeon:
American Gangster :obama:
Reasonable Doubt
TBA

Obama got most of his motivation from bumpin American Gangster durin his first campaign race :bryan:

Edit:: I would even argue MBDTF doesnt come close to AG

:yeshrug:
 

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:pacspit: @ Implying not being Hip Hop is somehow fvcking better.
GetTheFvckOuttaHereWithThatSh1t

Jigga > Yeezy
Dudes been curb stomping Kanye on damn near every track
they do together for a decade.
There is a reason Kanye calls Jay his big brother and not the other way around.
:yeshrug:

Lol, I'm not even going to argue with you on this.. I'll just say, have you been to Jay-Z concert, actually have you been to a hip hop concert before Kanye was involved. It you can't see the difference in live shows between the time Kanye got involved with hip hop, then I don't know what to say

By no means, am I saying that Kanye is the better rapper.


What ARTISTIC chances has Jay taken that weren't already done?

Kanye has produced all of his albums and is involved in everything down to the cover art...

I'm not implying that not being hip hop is better, but when you look at the things that Kanye cares about regarding his project and brand as opposed to other rappers, you can see a major difference. It's not just about getting in the studio and "spitting some hot shyt".... Kanye's view is bigger
 

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A overall artist :yeshrug:


Yea Jay-z is a better rapper than Ye :beli: . But shyt technically Canibus is a better rapper than Jay if you think about it :lolbron: . Its about the whole package. That is something Kanye has over Jay b the tenfold. Yeezy pretty much embodies the pinnacle of a supreme artist in any type of genre. He gave birth to a new style and gen of rap (The Regular Guy/ Non Gangsta era) , he's successfully transcended hip hop and is jus as successful as Jay when it comes to other buisness endevours Yeezy's , GOOD music , etc. , Only thing Jigga has over him is Rocawear and being cool with Obama. Like it or not. When its all said and done Kanye is gonna go down as one of those once in a generation type characters in the hip hop game that push the genre foward and breath new light and lanes to it. Such artists in that category are


Rakim
LL Cool J
NWA
BIG
PAC
DMX
Outkast



Jay was never a innovator, he jus know how to move with the times and make good songs. Keeping it G. Jay is years past his prime and is only making it in this current generation thru Mr.West, his buisness acumen, and his ability to ride waves and switch up his style(aka dikkriding :lolbron: ).

honestly, I said the same until Kanye started that "Haaaaaaann" shyt

now that nygga 2 Chainz level.
 

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Ye blows him away. Albums, production, musically. Ye has him beat. 5 albums in and he has yet to miss, with each one changing it up, pushing himself and rap forward each time. Its not even fair to compare jay. Jay will forever be the better rapper, kanye will never top that. Everyone but the squares on the coi who hate whatever is popular realize this. MBDTF and Late Registration alone should be enough for people to realized this. The production, the littlest details, the perfectly placed guest spots. Everything comes down to kanye and he is perfect at it.

Kanyes 5 albums are also better than any 5 jayz albums when compared

And he us the most critically acclaimed rap artist of all time :yeshrug:
 

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Ye blows him away. Albums, production, musically. Ye has him beat. 5 albums in and he has yet to miss, with each one changing it up, pushing himself and rap forward each time. Its not even fair to compare jay. Jay will forever be the better rapper, kanye will never top that. Everyone but the squares on the coi who hate whatever is popular realize this. MBDTF and Late Registration alone should be enough for people to realized this. The production, the littlest details, the perfectly placed guest spots. Everything comes down to kanye and he is perfect at it.

Kanyes 5 albums are also better than any 5 jayz albums when compared

And he us the most critically acclaimed rap artist of all time :yeshrug:


Stop it slime

.....

*sees avi*


u almost had me breh :skip:
 

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honestly, I said the same until Kanye started that "Haaaaaaann" shyt

now that nygga 2 Chainz level.


He dumbing it down for now. But we ALL know this nikka next album is gonna be on some next level shyt :wow: :to: :lawd:
 
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Why do you think jay did watch the throne?

I don't think nikkas realize how much kanye changed music.

Like most of these nikkas in the industry are trying to follow his blueprint.

Kanye is a better artist than jay

Jay is the better hip hop artist.
 

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I was ready to admit that shyt back in 2007 :manny:

Jay aint been Jay I grew up on since the Black Album...
 
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