"I think the NFL is about 10 years away from an implosion"-Mark Cuban

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i kinda get what cuban is saying, too much does cause things to go stale but i love football so much im willing to watch it 3 times a week

i have to admit, i rarely watch thursday night games, the games are so sloppy and you can tell the players arent ready for such a short week
 

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Yeah, but the NBA is a legit international product at least when you compare it to the NFL.

Cuban is right tho, it was the build up to the match ups that made the game so appealing it felt like a weekly heavyweight bout. I think a big reason why I turned off espn for good is because of the non-stop NFL coverage the shyt is the epitome of oversaturation.
You're right about that. Prior to the madness, I was getting more coverage of NFL hotbed than the fukking NBA. shyt is just too much at a point.
 

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Cuban did go overboard with the implosion comment but I stand by the oversaturation of the NFL. The hardcore fanbase will support regardless. The casual one is the people who might lose interest. NFL took the perfect scheduling model and they're pushing in the face of the consumer. Why they have to have a Thursday game every week? Why the draft got to be in May? Why they trying to make 18 game schedule? Why they thinking about moving the Super Bowl to President's Day? They pushing it to make the NFL a year round thing. Its stupid to be honest. You need a break from all the madness. That's why I loved CFB because once it January bowl games is over, that it (besides NSD) no more talk til August. Once it back we :blessed: to see it. I like NBA but when it over I glad its done til the new season. NFL should be the same, but Goddell the owners doesn't want that. As long they could see the $$$ could make they going to push it, and casuals fan will eventually turn off by that.
 

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On Thursday night during the season, me and my ppls go to bar and shoot some pool while watching the game on the big screen. That Thursday night game is perfect for the bar on Sundays because the typically bad matchup makes it very casual. Plus it give family men another chance to get out the house..... I love the football though so I might be bias.... I watch football and baseball at the bar plenty of times. Basketball I typically watch at the crib or at somebody else house. The latter isn't as social as the other two I mentioned..
 

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On Thursday night during the season, me and my ppls go to bar and shoot some pool while watching the game on the big screen. That Thursday night game is perfect for the bar on Sundays because the typically bad matchup makes it very casual. Plus it give family men another chance to get out the house..... I love the football though so I might be bias.... I watch football and baseball at the bar plenty of times. Basketball I typically watch at the crib or at somebody else house. The latter isn't as social as the other two I mentioned..
bball is waay more social to watch for me. baseball too actually. in fact, I have to have company when I watch baseball cuz otherwise it gets too damn dry. no homo.
football, cant stand being around stupid people who dont know shyt. thats why I hate going to the local bars. filled with blind homers and bandwagoners
 

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Cuban is right. This is because the NBA did it... Only difference is the NFL's run will be longer...
 

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Implosion? No.
Oversaturation. Yes.

It's almost as if there isn't an offseason now. Since when did they start televising the combine? The NFL draft coverage is almost as long as the olympics. The last thing I want to see is an 18 game season and/or 2 more playoff teams.

The Thursday night games need to go. I never really changed my schedule to catch a Thursday night game, but I'm probably in the minority. I'm not into FF but doesn't odd gamedays like Thursday and Saturday make FF more of a chore than fun?
 

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A lot of the complaints I get...but football fans complaining about Thursday Night Games? :mindblown:

The best thing they did in the last decade.
they're garbage. and especially bad for players and teams playing.

catering too much to fans is a downfall for every sport out there because sports at its core is about competition, not entertainment. thursday games dont benefit anyone BUT the fans and billionaire owners. same thing with 18-game season
 
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they're garbage. and especially bad for players and teams playing.

catering too much to fans is a downfall for every sport out there because sports at its core is about competition, not entertainment. thursday games dont benefit anyone BUT the fans and billionaire owners. same thing with 18-game season

That's debatable. I've seen many players and coaches that say they like the games cuz of the ten day break on the back end.

The game quality is on par with mnf, especially when normalized with the fact they're more likely to choose less marquee teams than ESPN


Edit: I'll recant the last statement, after looking at the 2013 schedules TNF was almost comparable to MNF on paper (tho tnf did have Buf-Cle game :scusthov:)
 
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That's debatable. I've seen many players and coaches that say they like the games cuz of the ten day break on the back end.

I have not seen anyone say this.

http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2013/12...appear-reggie-bush-says-its-like-a-car-crash/

ALLEN PARK (CBS DETROIT) – Even for super-strong, supremely conditioned NFL players, it takes time to recover from several hours of Herculean effort accompanied by high-speed, high-impact collisions.

Normally, NFL players get six days to recuperate between games. Before Thursday Night Football contests that every team must now play each season, the turnaround time is cut in half, and many players do not like it.

Is the NFL — which touts its commitment to player safety in the wake of concussion lawsuits — risking players’ health for the sake of adding to the bottom line?

Detroit Lions running back Reggie Bush, who has rushed for 854 yards on 180 carries and 448 yards on 45 catches, said those three days between Sunday and Thursday – half the usual time between games – is not enough.

“I’m not a huge fan of it,” Bush said. “We don’t get a lot of time for our bodies to recover. Football games – I always try to relate them to for the average person – it’s just like being in a car crash. Like literally every time you’re getting hit is like being in a car crash. Imagine as a running back you’re getting hit – I touched the ball at least 20 to 30 times a game, that’s 20 to 30 car crashes you’re in in two hours. It’s tough to get your body back ready that quick for a game on Thursday.”

Many players would like to see Thursday games disappear or at least get pared down, but with the demand for NFL games, and the cash machine it’s become, that seems unlikely.

Pro Bowl tackle Duane Brown of the Houston Texans believes the expansion of Thursday games reveals a discrepancy between the NFL’s stated goals of player safety and its pursuit of big profit at all costs.

“You talk about player safety, but you want to extend the season and add Thursday games?” Brown told SI.com. “It’s talking out of both sides of your mouth.”

The extra day of games began in 2006 on the NFL Network with eight games on the Thursday Night Football docket. Last season, the NFL expanded the series to 14 games.

The addition to the schedule brings in an estimated $700 million in revenue, according to John Ourand of Sports Business Daily.

Despite the money it generates, Brian Billick, the head coach of the Baltimore Ravens from 1999-2007, wrote for NFL.com that Thursday games are a huge burden for teams, one that few appreciate.

“We’re not supposed to say this aloud while we’re coaching, but I can say it now: Players and coaches mostly despise the Thursday games,” Billick wrote. “It leads to a schedule that’s even more maniacal than usual for coaches. And it’s a physical ordeal for players to recover in time to strap on a helmet Thursday — especially late in the season, when they’ve been beaten up and worn down by the relentless schedule, with only one bye week since early August.”

Pro Bowl tackle Brown is one of many more players around the league – including Denver Broncos guard Louis Vasquez and Texans wide receiver Andre Johnson – who have voiced strong feelings on the perils of Thursday Night Football.

“It’s dangerous,” Brown told SI.com’s Robert Klemko. “It feels horrible.”

Many of the Lions are used to playing Thursday games because Detroit participates in the Thanksgiving Day game every year, but Bush said Thursday games around the league are not a good idea.

“I don’t think it’s enough time, and I’m glad we only have to do it once,” Bush said. “It’s definitely something that maybe you can look at chopping it down to maybe half.”

Some players like the change of pace of playing Thursday, the following week that functions almost like a mini-bye, and the spotlight that accompanies the weekday games. All agree, though, that physically the turnaround is rough.

“You’re hurting all through the week in practice,” Lions guard Rob Sims said. “Usually on Thursdays I’m like, ‘Oh OK, I’m feeling okay,’ and Friday’s I’m like, ‘OK, now I want to feel good,’ but during that [short week] you don’t get a chance. You’re just like, hey, just playing hurt basically – or not hurt, but sore.”

Usually players get Mondays off, but in a short week, instead of rest, players return to practice on a day that often ranks quite high on the pain scale.

“I would say Monday, on an average, I’m a nine,” Sims said with a wry laugh. “9 out of 10. It’s pretty brutal, especially when we play somebody in our division. It’s pretty brutal. It was a rough week. It was a rough week.”

All players get banged up from week to week, and much of the time between games is spent rehabbing injuries. With a short week, it needs to be done in half the hours.

“If you’ve got to get a massage, go to a chiropractor, do your contrast hot tub-cold tub, if you’ve got to do all these things in six days usually, now you’ve got to condense it,” Lions wide receiver Nate Burleson said.

Occasionally, that shortened turnaround means players who could have healed up enough for a Sunday game end up not playing. As National Football Post noted earlier this season, Bears cornerback Charles Tillman could not go Oct. 10 against the Giants, and Panthers linebacker Thomas Davis had to sit out Oct. 24 against the Bucs.

Lions coach Jim Schwartz did not comment on his thoughts on Thursday Night Football in general, but he said the short week is hard even for coaches, much less the athletes getting ready to go right back out on the field.

“It’s tough on the coaches,” Schwartz said. “I can’t imagine what it’s like on the players.”

In the words of Sims, it is pretty brutal.
 
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