I Think Y’all Hate Kendrick Bcuz He’s From The Coast

[Detroit_blue]

Funny how you skipped over the Jigga portion of my argument lol I think that a lot of us Coast to Coast don't give a fukk about the struggles of the 90s yet they still reject Kendrick. Rap is wayyy more simple than what you give it credit for. If you hear an artist is supposed to have bars you'll be on the lookout for...bars! If he doesn't then you'll be way more critical of him versus a YG who is aiming for something totally different. I'm not concerned with his accolades because business is business. I'm not worried about critical acclaim because all the white People that have a strangle hold on music journalism apparently look for something different than those who have this as a foundation...which is fine! lol Listen man...Kendrick is cool but it's hilarious hearing people jumping up & down for what he does when it ain't that serious.

The bolded needs to be understood

 

[Benefited]

Funny how you skipped over the Jigga portion of my argument lol I think that a lot of us Coast to Coast don't give a fukk about the struggles of the 90s yet they still reject Kendrick. Rap is wayyy more simple than what you give it credit for. If you hear an artist is supposed to have bars you'll be on the lookout for...bars! If he doesn't then you'll be way more critical of him versus a YG who is aiming for something totally different. I'm not concerned with his accolades because business is business. I'm not worried about critical acclaim because all the white People that have a strangle hold on music journalism apparently look for something different than those who have this as a foundation...which is fine! lol Listen man...Kendrick is cool but it's hilarious hearing people jumping up & down for what he does when it ain't that serious.

I skipped the Jay portion because its disingenious to pretend it was "east coast haters" saying Jay didn't have a year. Jay-Z is so huge he has haters independent of him being from the east coast,New Yorkers who are jealous their favorite New York rapper doesn't get the accoloades Jay does are some of his biggest haters in fact. People who see is flashiness and commercial appeal as going against "real hiphop". Jay is hated by many segments of hiphop fans,west coasters being one of the least actually as his style was west coast centric at his peak anyway.

If you are going to bring up things that are said here,and threads made here,how can you skip over people who hate on wack and mediocre east coast artist being called jealous and east coast haters? My point is Kendrick is leagues above these east coast rappers you will be called a "east coast hater" for not liking. I'm only saying lets be consistent and use the same labels. Why is OP wrong for coming to the conclusion he came too?Have you ever checked east coast posters who call folks "east coast haters" for not liking Dave East,Bobby Smurda,Cass or Cardi B for gods sake


A list of wackness and bums compared to Kendrick btw?or compared to YG even.

 

[big bun]

So did Kendrick tell them people to give them those accolades?

I just think Coli knee grows like fakeness...Kendrick is spittin’ the real AND he from the hood. Y’all would rather be lied to and sold dreams by half-breeds from upper class Toronto.

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

I skipped the Jay portion because its disingenious to pretend it was "east coast haters" saying Jay didn't have a year. Jay-Z is so huge he has haters independent of him being from the east coast,New Yorkers who are jealous their favorite New York rapper doesn't get the accoloades Jay does are some of his biggest haters in fact. People who see is flashiness and commercial appeal as going against "real hiphop". Jay is hated by many segments of hiphop fans,west coasters being one of the least actually as his style was west coast centric at his peak anyway.

If you are going to bring up things that are said here,and threads made here,how can you skip over people who hate on wack and mediocre east coast artist being called jealous and east coast haters? My point is Kendrick is leagues above these east coast rappers you will be called a "east coast hater" for not liking. I'm only saying lets be consistent and use the same labels. Why is OP wrong for coming to the conclusion he came too?Have you ever checked east coast posters who call folks "east coast haters" for not liking Dave East,Bobby Smurda,Cass or Cardi B for gods sake


A list of wackness and bums compared to Kendrick btw?or compared to YG even.

Here lies the issue...It's a foregone conclusion to you that Kendrick is better than the people I mentioned and that's your bias to carry. You think calling Dave East wack is calling a spade a spade whereas calling Kendrick wack is an obvious sign of a shortcoming on the part of the person. Based on my criteria (and apparently others) Kendrick doesn't shine in any particular thing...Now if it was Ab Soul in Kendrick's position you would get no peep out of me because Ab...has...bars lol Manits so hard to get bars nowadays do you think people give a fukk what area it comes from?

 

[old boy]

Jay is hated by many segments of hiphop fans,west coasters being one of the least actually as his style was west coast centric at his peak anyway.

how was hov's style west coast centric at its peak?

 

[Benefited]

Here lies the issue...It's a foregone conclusion to you that Kendrick is better than the people I mentioned and that's your bias to carry. You think calling Dave East wack is calling a spade a spade whereas calling Kendrick wack is an obvious sign of a shortcoming on the part of the person. Based on my criteria (and apparently others) Kendrick doesn't shine in any particular thing...Now if it was Ab Soul in Kendrick's position you would get no peep out of me because Ab...has...bars lol Manits so hard to get bars nowadays do you think people give a fukk what area it comes from?

I'm calling them wack and bums in comparison to Kendrick,which is really unquestionable. Now if you think Dave can hold a candle to Kendrick I think its your bias thats coming out. Those other artist I mentioned are wack bums in comparison to Dave East in fairness to him. Kendrick shines in song writing,digestable lyricism,poetic license and effect. If rap fans understood rap at its roots is poetry they would understand Kendrick is a great writer,but most rap fans don't have any sort of appreciation for poetry whatsoever yet want to discuss Kendrick who you could argue is hiphop at its purest. Theres Rakim,then there is Kendrick,not saying Rakim or Kendrick or the greatest rappers,speaking only on the pureness of what they do

 

[Devil Plisken…CMS]

I'm calling them wack and bums in comparison to Kendrick,which is really unquestionable. Now if you think Dave can hold a candle to Kendrick I think its your bias thats coming out. Those other artist I mentioned are wack bums in comparison to Dave East in fairness to him. Kendrick shines in song writing,digestable lyricism,poetic license and effect. If rap fans understood rap at its roots is poetry they would understand Kendrick is a great writer,but most rap fans don't have any sort of appreciation for poetry whatsoever yet want to discuss Kendrick who you could argue is hiphop at its purest. Theres Rakim,then there is Kendrick,not saying Rakim or Kendrick or the greatest rappers,speaking only on the pureness of what they do

Meanwhile we've all been digging 3 stacks, the poet of all poets, for 20 years I think Dave is wack for the same reason I think Kendrick is. On the other hand their mechanics are entirely different but I still reach that same conclusion. One is deadpan with a bunch of stale lines while the other rambles and says a bunch of nothing that doesn't stick. We all have biases...accept yours the leads you to put Kendrick on a pedestal as you are asking others to do

 

[TruDatz]

I grew up on and love west coast music.
Kendrick is hated because he's phony from top to bottom

What is it you didn't like?

Kendrick is a terrible "emcee" if you wanna call him that.

And those accents he puts on when he "raps" are so excruciatingly cringeworthy.

Kendrick is the Black Eminem. He's doing the exact same style and you dikkheads are eating it up just because his skin is brown regardless of his talent which he doesn't really posses.

Another industry plant.

PS. Don't use Gawdfather's name or aggressive imagery content in vein.

The problem people have with Kendrick is definitely the way he is covered by the media - in particular, i think, media outlets which historically have never had much time for hip hop before mbdtf "transformed" it into a "legitimate" artistic medium. (I mean, they still don't really respect it which is why they push the narrative of Kendrick as a "writer" rather than a "rapper").

These media outlets aren't merely content to hand him hip hop's crown (which is irritating enough because they don't have any credentials to support their role as hip hop kingmakers) but are constantly trying to elevate him to be some kind of leader of my generation. But I don't, and does anyone, actually know who Kendrick is and what he stands for? What exactly is he leading? The message in his music is obfuscated by meandering lyrics and the vaguely defined tenets on which tpab and damn are built just seem to be a repetition of the sort of views held by any left leaning person. Where is the radical position in his music? Where is the challenge? Oh, you wondered why he can sell so many records...?

He makes good popular music with lyrics that sound like they might be deep or something because they are weird and don't properly make sense (Hov already dealt with his type - just cos you don't understand him, it don't mean he nice, it just means you don't understand all the bullshyt that he writes) and with a political stance that's vague enough that a sizable spectrum of political views can feel validated by it.

I wish the media could just leave it on the "we really like how his music sounds"-level rather than think-piece-projecting him to a platform he is not cut for.

ALL THIS

I’d respect the nikka more if he actually believed in black empowerment like the gimmick image he & TDE sold.

But this the same nikka who preached that black people cant expect respect b/c we don’t respect ourselves when Michael Brown was murdered for walking down the damn street.

This the same nikka that said black people shouldn’t be bothered with voting

This the same nikka that defended Iggy Azalea when brother Cole kept it real
bout what the industry was trying to do

This the same nicca whose team told a reporter to not ask political questions in an interview after they decided they wanted to go for the pop audience.

Add to the fact that homie never rapped about this shyt in his early days & was really a Lil Wayne groupie tells you this whole image of his is hella calculated

 

[Benefited]

how was hov's style west coast centric at its peak?

Can you name another east coast rapper who gave game,rapped misogynistic from the pimp/player angle?Rapped over funk beats/bouncy beats?I can't think of one before or after him who did this as much as Jay. Not to mention his flow and delivery alone was more west coast than it was east coast. Jay-Z is a one of one on the east coast,lets note how well traveled and how probably diverse Jay's taste in music was probably even early on. So credit goes to the south as well I'm sure as they had rappers of that ilk. Whats next,we won't acknowledge Biggies style is King Tee's/Ice Cube?I didn't think this would be something one would argue,very west coast centric artist which is why they were so digestible nationally.

 

[Benefited]

Meanwhile we've all been digging 3 stacks, the poet of all poets, for 20 years I think Dave is wack for the same reason I think Kendrick is. On the other hand their mechanics are entirely different but I still reach that same conclusion. One is deadpan with a bunch of stale lines while the other rambles and says a bunch of nothing that doesn't stick. We all have biases...accept yours the leads you to put Kendrick on a pedestal as you are asking others to do

Who is we?Outkast got booed off stage 20 years ago and felt unnapreciated?Not to mention 3K wasn't that beloved as he is now. Kendrick isn't more overated than Kendrick,lets put it that way. At least Kendrick is being overated in real time as he is one of the top rappers if you feel that way. 3K has become some hipster favorite who is being overated retroactively. You can think both are overrated if you like,as long as you remain consistent. I look foward to see you calling out the bias of other regions who praise mediocre rappers nonstop. Since you are so gung ho in calling out my bias and west coast bias when it comes to Kendrick

 

[Bigblackted4]

NYC bias in this thread homie said Jim Jones(GhostWritten Jimmy) and the bodyguard Tony Yayo were better than Kendrick.

 

[old boy]

Can you name another east coast rapper who gave game,rapped misogynistic from the pimp/player angle?Rapped over funk beats/bouncy beats?I can't think of one before or after him who did this as much as Jay. Not to mention his flow and delivery alone was more west coast than it was east coast. Jay-Z is a one of one on the east coast,lets note how well traveled and how probably diverse Jay's taste in music was probably even early on. So credit goes to the south as well I'm sure as they had rappers of that ilk. Whats next,we won't acknowledge Biggies style is King Tee's/Ice Cube?I didn't think this would be something one would argue,very west coast centric artist which is why they were so digestible nationally.

rapped over funk beats? sure, epmd and redman not so much jay

you're right hov had a diverse taste in hip hop (he loved dre, snoop & ugk) but never have i seen him as being west coast centric

 

[Benefited]

rapped over funk beats? sure, epmd and redman not so much jay

you're right hov had a diverse taste in hip hop (he loved dre, snoop & ugk) but never have i seen him as being west coast centric

Im A Hustler(Give It To Me),Change The Game,Ain't No nikka,Jigga What Jigga Who,Can I Get A,many of his singles are west coast centric,go relisten and realize how funk oriented this beats are,since when east coast nikkas start bouncing?When you factor in his flow and delivery this shouldn't even be a question.


What is east coast reluctance to admit two of its biggest rappers were inspired by the west and west coast centric?many of the early west coast rappers admit they admired the east and started out east coast centric.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

Name the 10 other solo rappers who dropped 3 consecutive albums accumulating the critical and commercial success he has? Other than Kanye who uses writers. I haven't shoehorned Kendrick in my top 10 either but outside of him not being great at features I can't think of an objective reason to say there's no argument.

fukk kendrick's contrived success and acclaim.
Anyone whom's paying attention can see through the bullshyt.
For instance,look at the metacritic bullshyt. I remember when weirdos were in here pumping that bullshyt like it meant something. (it's since been changed ) but i went there and couldnt believe 3/4 x's as many people were rating kendrick's album than drake,nicki etc.
Even though they had similar or greater success than him.
And i'm not talking about how high or low i just mean how many people engaged.
For example it would be like 900 people rating GKMC etc and like 250 people rating take care. So i'm like why would more than 3 x's the amount of people take time to rate kendrick than drake when he was clearly more popular. They were padding the ratings obviously.



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[old boy]

Im A Hustler(Give It To Me),Change The Game,Ain't No nikka,Jigga What Jigga Who,Can I Get A,many of his singles are west coast centric,go relisten and realize how funk oriented this beats are,since when east coast nikkas start bouncing?When you factor in his flow and delivery this shouldn't even be a question.

but bounce would be the south, one of his influences

and his flow and delivery is brooklyn to the core