I told y'all muh'fukkas that Pop's being left behind.....
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The Devil's Advocate
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stat guys don't ever take anything else into considerationTHIS IS STUPID...
DEMAR IS ASSISTED ON 20% OF HIS JUMPSHOTS.
HES NOT STANDING INSIDE THE THREE WAITING FOR A CATCH & SHOOT...
HES CREATING SHOTS FOR HIMSELF OFF THE DRIBBLE FOR THAT 42%FG
HE WOULDNT EVEN CRACK 30% IF HE WAS TRYING TO TAKE THREES OFF THE DRIBBLE.
THATS WHY ITS SILLY TO COMPARE PERCENTAGES
WHEN HE CLEARLY DOESNT HAVE THE SKILLSET FOR THAT.
YES LETS TURN DEMAR INTO A SPOT UP SHOOTER
SO HE CAN TAKE MORE THREES
EVEN THOUGH HE DOPESNT SPOT UP FOR TWOS.
it's literally... just add this number to this and it equals that... not mentioning ANYTHING else that would result from such a dramatic change. nikkas have a bad day in real life and it shows up on the court.. but completely change the entire offense mid season, all players and percentages will stay EXACTLY the same... don't even worry about
Not only is that tweet not addressing my argument, but it does nothing to debunk my argument either.they don't know nothing bout basketball either... only the OP
The Spurs shoot 41% on midrange, on the highest volume in the league, you do realize that's essentially the same logic that y'all are using in this thread as to why the Spurs shouldn't take more 3s, right? You do realize that they'd have a more efficient offense if they replaced those long-2s with 3s, right? You do realize that they'd have a more efficient offense because it would give them greater floor spacing, right?
Y'all nikkas are arguing against them having a higher 3-pt volume (lowest in the league), but it's fine for them to have the highest volume on long-2s, how does this make sense to y'all?
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The Spurs starters have ranged from bottom-10 to league-average on offense this season, with the lowest 3-pt activity
The Spurs bench have been in the top-10 on offense this season, with one of the highest 3-pt activity rates
Y'all don't think that if the Spurs starting unit replaced the majority of those long 2s with 3s, that they'd have a more efficient offense?
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Let's use y'all logic and apply it to Blake Griffn:
Blake takes six 3-pt attempts per game and hits them at 36% (which is the equivalent of hitting two-point shots at around 56%), but TheColi thinks he shouldn't shoot those 3s, instead, he should be replacing them with long-2s, despite the fact it will shrink the floor space, which will in turn decrease scoring opportunities and offensive efficiency, affect Drummond's effectiveness/minutes (as well as other players' minutes and lineups), and the most obvious one of all, there's no way in hell that Blake could hit long-2s at 56% on the same volume.
Blake takes six 3-pt attempts per game and hits them at 36% (which is the equivalent of hitting two-point shots at around 56%), but TheColi thinks he shouldn't shoot those 3s, instead, he should be replacing them with long-2s, despite the fact it will shrink the floor space, which will in turn decrease scoring opportunities and offensive efficiency, affect Drummond's effectiveness/minutes (as well as other players' minutes and lineups), and the most obvious one of all, there's no way in hell that Blake could hit long-2s at 56% on the same volume.
This is one of the more dumbass posts you've made: no attempt at providing any context on how/when they took those 3s and if they were the reason why they generated or maximized runs; no attempt at looking at the rate in which they hit their two-point shots, and seeing if it was realistic to maintain that efficiency for the rest of the season, or if it would lead to a regression toward the mean, after all, every one of those six games were at home.
Prior to those six games, why don't we look at the previous stretch (lost 5 of 7):
Loss v. Bucks (only attempted 21 threes, and the Bucks attempted 40)
Loss v. T'Wolves (only attempted 27 threes, and the T'Wolves attempted 41)
Loss v. Rockets (only attempted 28 threes, and the Rockets attempted 54)
Loss v. Jazz (only attempted 22 threes, and the Jazz attempted 33)
Loss v. Lakers (only attempted 27 threes, and the Lakers attempted 39)
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One out of 30 teams (Spurs) shoot more long-2s than 3s
29 out of 30 teams shoot more 3s than long-2s.
But let TheColi tell it, the Spurs are better off shooting all those long-2s which they only hit at 41% (leading the league with 26 attempts per game), instead of taking more 3s (last in the league with 24 per game). I guess every single team in the league that attempt more 3s than long-2s are doing it wrong.
29 out of 30 teams shoot more 3s than long-2s.
But let TheColi tell it, the Spurs are better off shooting all those long-2s which they only hit at 41% (leading the league with 26 attempts per game), instead of taking more 3s (last in the league with 24 per game). I guess every single team in the league that attempt more 3s than long-2s are doing it wrong.
Warriors Loss, game 5 vs Cavs 2016:
Warriors attempted 43 threes, Cavs attempted 24
Warriors Loss game 6 vs Cavs 2016:
Warriors attempted 39 threes, Cavs attempted 27
Warriors Loss, game 7 vs Cavs 2016:
Warriors attempted 41 threes, Cavs attempted 25...........
Warriors should've shot more threes
OP disappears until the Warriors beg KD to come help them
Now the OP thinks he knows more about basketball than Gregg Popovich
Warriors attempted 43 threes, Cavs attempted 24
Warriors Loss game 6 vs Cavs 2016:
Warriors attempted 39 threes, Cavs attempted 27
Warriors Loss, game 7 vs Cavs 2016:
Warriors attempted 41 threes, Cavs attempted 25...........
Warriors should've shot more threes
OP disappears until the Warriors beg KD to come help them
Now the OP thinks he knows more about basketball than Gregg Popovich
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The Devil's Advocate
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but that's not his argument brehs... i think i am starting to understand nowWarriors Loss, game 7 vs Cavs 2016:
Warriors attempted 41 threes, Cavs attempted 25...........
Warriors should've shot more threes
OP disappears until the Warriors beg KD to come help them
Now the OP thinks he knows more about basketball than Gregg Popovich
the argument is not that the warriors should have shot more 3s... they shot just enough
the problem is.... the cavs should have shot MORE 3's then they'd have won by more points.. kyrie hit that last minute joint... he should have turned 5 of those 2's, into 5 more 3's... same with bron... and tristian..
the more 3's you take, even when you miss more, will all equal out... as a matter of fact... just spread 5 wide and chuck all game... it'll equal out to more points and better efficiency, because 3>2... go 1 for 10 from 3, instead of going 1 for 1 from 2... and you'll be better off
If you wanna simplify it like this:
2015 Finals - Warriors shot 186 threes, Cavs shot 167 threes - Warriors win
2017 Finals - Warriors shot 186 threes, Cavs shot 173 threes - Warriors win
2018 Finals - Warriors shot 136 threes, Cavs shot 126 threes - Warriors win
"Cavs should've taken more threes
"If you wanna simplify it like this:
2015 Finals - Warriors shot 186 threes, Cavs shot 167 threes - Warriors win
2017 Finals - Warriors shot 186 threes, Cavs shot 173 threes - Warriors win
2018 Finals - Warriors shot 136 threes, Cavs shot 126 threes - Warriors win
"Cavs should've taken more threes
You must not know simple sequence, you're forgetting 2016 between 2015 and 2017. What happened in that year? Weren't the warriors up 3-1 in that series? What happened in games 5, 6, and 7? Didn't the Warriors shoot enough threes?
but that's not his argument brehs... i think i am starting to understand now
the argument is not that the warriors should have shot more 3s... they shot just enough
the problem is.... the cavs should have shot MORE 3's then they'd have won by more points.. kyrie hit that last minute joint... he should have turned 5 of those 2's, into 5 more 3's... same with bron... and tristian..
the more 3's you take, even when you miss more, will all equal out... as a matter of fact... just spread 5 wide and chuck all game... it'll equal out to more points and better efficiency, because 3>2... go 1 for 10 from 3, instead of going 1 for 1 from 2... and you'll be better off
I see now, it doesn't matter that they begged KD to come play with them, or getting Boogie this year too. They'll all just chuck more threes
Are you slow or something?You must not know simple sequence, you're forgetting 2016 between 2015 and 2017. What happened in that year? Weren't the warriors up 3-1 in that series? What happened in games 5, 6, and 7? Didn't the Warriors shoot enough threes?
The Warriors won three out of four series' shooting more 3s than the Cavs did. You're going against your own logic bringing up one out of four series' when the Warriors won three out of four series' shooting more 3s.
Are you going to tell me winning one out of four series' is better than winning three out of four series'?
"Looks like the Cavs didn't shoot enough threes in three out of four series', but it's alright since they won one of those series', after all, winning one series is better than winning three series'"