I told y'all muh'fukkas that Pop's being left behind.....

[malbaker86]

Cap space, 3 first round picks and a All Star PG to build with. They'll be straight

exactly

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Not a single coach in the league is making the playoffs with these rosters. Think you know better than Greg poppovich.

Do you know better than any coach in the NBA? Does that mean that every coach should just keep continuing on forever because they know more about the game than you? You're telling me you've never criticized a coach before?

This whole "think you know more than Pop" has been without a doubt the most embarrassing reiterated phrases throughout this whole ordeal. It's no surprise it's a back pocket card for all the Casuals.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Is there any other coach that would be excused for missing the playoffs for three seasons other than Pop?

That should tell you all you need to know.

 

[Gangstar8]

Another L for this cac gil

 

[Don Homer]

I don't think it's about the wins, in a vacuum, but other coaches would probably give them more drive and a different outlook that could potentially unlock shyt that has previously been kept away. That doesn't just apply to the Spurs-Pop either, it goes for every team where they've reached the end of the road with their respective coach; Pop's been on the same franchise for two decades now, during a period that has changed more than any other in NBA history. It only makes sense someone of Pop's era doesn't quite have their finger on the pulse. We saw the same thing happened to Phil Jackson after he was left behind, shunning any analytical strategem and continuing to revive the Triangle after it was dead and gone. And wins =/= good coaching; there seems to be a common misconception that wins, themselves, means a coach is doing a good job, or conversely, losses means the coach is doing a bad job. Which is funny here because you've got smart dumb nxggas like @Don Homer who are excusing Pop for the Spurs' lack of wins, when he wouldn't do it for any other coach. When he's really none the wiser, because i) he doesn't watch Spurs games, ii) he doesn't understand coaching or how to measure it.

It's really the problem with this board: once you're deemed a good or bad coach, that's going to stick, and the same excuses afforded to Pop for not making the playoffs for three consecutive years would be used to ridicule another coach in the same position. Confirmation bias takes hold and folks just use whatever they can to fuel that, not really knowing if the coach is still who they think he was.

i know u aint talking about not watching games, u c00n. Everyone knows u watch the box score

no matter what u say, that's ur rep

Another L for this cac gil

literally no one agrees with him. no surprise. hard to take a guy seriously when he's a known joke. That thread created about him a few weeks back is a testament to how little anyone cares about his opinion

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

i know u aint talking about not watching games, u c00n. Everyone knows u watch the box score

no matter what u say, that's ur rep

You can't even address my argument (this is after you called me out for not responding to your generic nonsense), so you deflect with some bullshyt not knowing I'm the one who started this shyt of calling out dudes for only watching box scores (instead of the actual games), and to make matters worse, here you are calling me a "c00n" after you're up in every Pop thread caping for him. The lack of self-awareness, hypocrisy and overall stupidity, is a sight to behold.



Keep proving me right by continuing not to talk about the topic at hand.

 

[Don Homer]

You can't even address my argument (this is after you called me out for not responding to your generic nonsense), so you deflect with some bullshyt not knowing I'm the one who started this shyt of calling out dudes for only watching box scores (instead of the actual games), and to make matters worse, here you are calling me a "c00n" after you're up in every Pop thread caping for him. The lack of self-awareness, hypocrisy and overall stupidity, is a sight to behold.



Keep proving me right by continuing not to talk about the topic at hand.

all i said was that the spurs roster is a play-in roster. And again, ZERO people agreed with you

the problem isn't Pop's system, it's the roster, silly nikka. Just like everyone is telling you. There isn't enough talent on the roster to make a playoff run.

u never made a point, also. U just said vague shyt like "a different perspective that could unlock the team" (literally means nothing). And what would that outlook be?

Monty Williams 1st season as Suns coach was underwhelming before they went undefeated in the bubble. They made some trades and it vaulted them into contention. The Spurs are EXTREMELY young. they need more time together. it's that simple

let's not forget that the Spurs were actually competitive, but they didnt have a go-to guy when the games got close. They blew a ton of 4th quarters because they're young, and not very clutch. The Suns have actually trailed many times in the 4th, but they have CP0 and Book, who are the 2 most clutch players in the league. They took over and were able to win them a ton of games. A stat came out a few weeks back that actually showed the suns would be a MUCH lower seed if the games ended in the 3rd. The Spurs would also be a higher seed (and the jazz would be the 1 seed). That's the difference right there. The Spurs dont have a single closer on that team. All the contending teams have someone they can pass it to when things get tight.

So again, the issue isn't Pop or his system/philosophy of doing things, it's the fact that he's playing with one of the youngest, most inexperienced teams in the league. And he's getting the most outta them. It's just that it's not a lot. Josh friggin Richardson is the most experienced player they have right now.

 

[Deafheaven]

This thread still goin

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

all i said was that the spurs roster is a play-in roster. And again, ZERO people agreed with you

the problem isn't Pop's system, it's the roster, silly nikka. Just like everyone is telling you. There isn't enough talent on the roster to make a playoff run.

The majority of folks on this board don't watch Spurs games for starters, just like you don't, so how would you possibly know the limitations of the roster vs. the limitations of his coaching? What are you using to scale it? Are you going on your already established beliefs of his coaching that may no longer be applicable as coaches are just like players and can fall off?

I'd just like to make an important note:

Once upon a time in this thread everyone was running up in here saying Pop could win with any type of talent/personnel, and yet now after three years without a playoff appearance, they're now saying it's not the coaching, it's the roster. Do you see how they already made their minds up long ago where they believed Pop could win with anybody, and once that was proven to be untrue, their first and only thought is, it must be the roster, and they're not willing to entertain that it might also be the coach.

 

[Don Homer]

The majority of folks on this board don't watch Spurs games for starters, just like you don't, so how would you possibly know the limitations of the roster vs. the limitations of his coaching? What are you using to scale it? Are you going on your already established beliefs of his coaching that may no longer be applicable as coaches are just like players and can fall off?

I'd just like to make an important note:

Once upon a time in this thread everyone was running up in here saying Pop could win with any type of talent/personnel, and yet now after three years without a playoff appearance, they're now saying it's not the coaching, it's the roster. Do you see how they already made their minds up long ago where they believed Pop could win with anybody, and once that was proven to be untrue, their first and only thought is, it must be the roster, and they're not willing to entertain that it might also be the coach.

read the rest of my post. Spurs are my 2nd favorite team

 

[NoMorePie]

Crazy how this team was like top 10 in scoring, 1st in assist but a few under 500.


Team needs a legit 2 way wing and they'll be at 500

Hey Kawhi

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

u never made a point, also. U just said vague shyt like "a different perspective that could unlock the team" (literally means nothing). And what would that outlook be?.

You don't even realize I've been detailing what's been wrong with this squad for the last 3-4 years - it's the entire reason why I made this thread in the first place.

I've had more [long-winded] posts about the Spurs than anyone on this board over that period, more than I care to remember, when you weren't even active in this thread. To say I never made a point when the contrary is more to the truth is only typical of you. You're not willing to venture out from your own narrow-minded view, it's the reason why you get frustrated you can't see things that other folks can. You merely work on your first reactive thought, and then manipulate everything so that it aligns with that. Even your fellow fans in the Warriors season thread have continually pointed this out to you.

The Spurs are EXTREMELY young. they need more time together.

They blew a ton of 4th quarters because they're young

So again, the issue isn't Pop or his system/philosophy of doing things, it's the fact that he's playing with one of the youngest, most inexperienced teams in the league.

Why do you keep stating this blatant lie, after I already debunked this when you first told it in February:

They're just a very young team with very little experience.

Dejounte Murray is 25
Derrick White is 27
Jakob Poeltl is 26
Doug McDermott is 29
Bryn Forbes is 28
Thaddeus Young is 33
KJ is 22 and have been in the league for multiple seasons.

They're most definitely not a "very young team with very little experience". They're a team who should be a lot further along than they are now.

They're a team without an identity, who aren't maximizing the talent they have, and as I've pointed out many a time over the last few years, they're trying to play in a manner which is no longer relevant anymore. That's on Pop. Their lack of development, that's on Pop too. We've been told of this great system that SA has had over the last 20 years, where Pop could get the best out of players, and win with any type of personnel.

But all that is nowhere to be seen over the last few seasons.

They're winning at the same rate as the Rockets, who have less talent, less experience, and less time together as a unit.

You're the one who's being vague (not the first time I've told you this; a special irony in you trying to point the finger back at me), most likely because you don't watch them play and you don't understand, or worse, you're being patently dishonest, about coaching, which is again, isn't all that surprising considering the double standards you hold Kerr to. All you've ever done throughout this season when excusing Pop is blame it on the team for being young/inexperienced, despite that not being true, at all, and other than that you have nothing else, most likely because you don't want to deal with the reality that you might be wrong and that it just might be the coaching.

Simply put - you're in denial.

 

[Don Homer]

You don't even realize I've been detailing what's been wrong with this squad for the last 3-4 years - it's the entire reason why I made this thread in the first place.

I've had more [long-winded] posts about the Spurs than anyone on this board over that period, more than I care to remember, when you weren't even active in this thread. To say I never made a point when the contrary is more to the truth is only typical of you. You're not willing to venture out from your own narrow-minded view, it's the reason why you get frustrated you can't see things that other folks can. You merely work on your first reactive thought, and then manipulate everything so that it aligns with that. Even your fellow fans in the Warriors season thread have continually pointed this out to you.





Why do you keep stating this blatant lie, after I already debunked this when you first told it in February:


You're the one who's being vague (not the first time I've told you this; a special irony in you trying to point the finger back at me), most likely because you don't watch them play and you don't understand, or worse, you're being patently dishonest, about coaching, which is again, isn't all that surprising considering the double standards you hold Kerr to. All you've ever done throughout this season when excusing Pop is blame it on the team for being young/inexperienced, despite that not being true, at all, and other than that you have nothing else, most likely because you don't want to deal with the reality that you might be wrong and that it just might be the coaching.

Simply put - you're in denial.

Half them nikkas ain’t even on the team man.

and Thad young got zero play time on the spurs. Doug McDermott was injured a fair amount. Poetl got next to no playoff time as a Raptor. He just started to get time as a Spur in the ‘19 playoffs.

Again, the average age of the roster is 24. Keldon didn’t get playtime until the damn Bubble in 2020.

the spurs played badly for 3 quarters last night as STILL ALMOST WON. They didn’t win because KJ AND DJ had horrific nights. That’s the problem. They’re young as fukk and don’t forget that Dejounte lost a year bc of his ACL.

CJ and BI went off and Herb jones was locking up, and they STILL could’ve won that game.

And I get that Pop doesn’t like the 3 point revolution that has taken over the league, but that never stopped him from being competitive against 3 point shooting teams. I mean the man has kicked D’antoni’s ass since 2005. The ‘17 Rockets took and made more threes than anyone in the league, and Pop still beat him. Not only that, the Suns are middle of the road in terms of 3 point shooting, and they have the best record.

fact is, the Spurs are legit one star away from being back. I’ve been saying it in the Spurs thread. They’re better than they’re record shows.


EDIT: I looked it up. The spurs and Suns make the same amount of threes per game. The difference is the Suns are much more experienced and can execute much better than the spurs.

before the suns went undefeated in the bubble, they went 26-39, which is one game better than this year’s spurs, who went 25-40 in that same amount of time. The spurs don’t have that certified bucket getter like Devin Booker. If u give Pop and stronger closer, and an actual PF so he can stop playing Keldon at the 4, they’ll be much better

I say all this to say, the spurs are VERY close to being great again. And also Pop has changed his philosophy over the decades. His system changed after Timmy was drafted, it changed after the Twin Towers era was over in ‘03, it changed (prolly for the worse) in 2011 when Manu was the guy, and it changed in 2014 when they played the Beautiful Game. Hell, it changed after Lamarcus Aldridge and Kawhi were playing together those two years, and it changed when Derozan came. Pop actually adjusts a lot, but people like you act like he’s always played the same. They cant make the playoffs because their roster isn’t a competitive roster for 48 mins. They’re too young for that. the biggest thing RC Buford did in terms of free agent signings was get Lamarcus. The spurs never make big changes. It’s always been “add a little here, add a little there”. So ofc it’s gonna take longer that if they made a big move to catapult themselves into contention

and speaking of Derozan, he’s struggling this year bc he came back down to earth from his incredible month of March. The Lamarcus/Derozan duo just wasn’t a good core, so the best Pop could do is get the 7 seed.

 

[KingTut]

Pop must’ve read this thread and took it personally

 

[Black White Sox Hat]

ah here we go

Spurs coming down