I told y'all muh'fukkas that Pop's being left behind.....

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I wonder if the Spurs will end up finally adjusting to the rest of the league this season (if they follow through with their end-of-season review of looking to take more 3s). I wonder if TheColi will, again, take my argument out of context, and think that them simply winning games somehow exposes my argument.

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@Remote what's your outlook for them this season?
I haven't had a chance to fully watch the preseason games. From the little I've seen, it doesn't appear the team has a heightened priority to shoot more threes. And from the box score it seems like the same thing as last season. Forbes and the bench will shoot them.

I was hoping to see Dejounte take shots from deep considering he seemed to really work hard on it during his rehab.

I think this season plays out a lot like last season. 45 wins or so. A 7th or 6th seed. And a first round exit.

The West is not as top heavy now but that's actually a tougher road for the Spurs.

What is interesting for Popovich is that he finally has some athleticism on the roster...but because he's so hesitant to give young players any sort of leash, I doubt he will take advantage of it in the way we need him to.

I've even heard rumors that SA would consider extending DeMar's contract. Please, no...

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Isn't thread starter the nikka that disappeared for months when his playoff predictions didn't come true?
And what playoff predictions might they be?

You mean these ones:

They don't need KD to beat those two frauds in Houston, but they'll need him for whoever comes out of the East.

:lolbron:
Except this isn't the same team.

If they could use Durant's salary to strengthen their rotation, they could/will win without him, but they have little to no chance of winning without him as it now stands. Iggy, Livingston, and Bogut are on their last legs; Looney, Cook, Bell, McKinnie, and Jerebko are collectively worse than almost all the other teams' bench players.

They're going to have to almost completely retool (outside their starting 5) in the postseason.
- said the Warriors weren't going to beat whoever came out of the East, without Durant
- said the Raptors were the #1 contenders in the East, and that Kawhi/Lowry were the best duo to lead a team to a title in the conference
- said the Rockets were going to lose to the Warriors, after Durant went down - dispelling the narrative the Rockets would've won the year before
- said Harden and CP3 would be exposed, once again, in the playoffs
- said Giannis' lack of a jumpshot was gonna rear its ugly head in the playoffs

And most importantly, Lowry making everyone on this board look like a fool.

I don't know about you, but that doesn't sound like my predictions were wrong.

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And what playoff predictions might they be?

You mean these ones:



- said the Warriors weren't going to beat whoever came out of the East, without Durant
- said the Raptors were the #1 contenders in the East, and that Kawhi/Lowry were the best duo to lead a team to a title in the conference
- said the Rockets were going to lose to the Warriors, after Durant went down - dispelling the narrative the Rockets would've won the year before
- said Harden and CP3 would be exposed, once again, in the playoffs
- said Giannis' lack of a jumpshot was gonna rear its ugly head in the playoffs

And most importantly, Lowry making everyone on this board look like a fool.

I don't know about you, but that doesn't sound like my predictions were wrong.

:hubie:

lowry had 3 good games and 3 bad games. People are legitimately shocked when Lowry plays well

harden wasn’t exposed, his teammates didn’t play well enough. Harden was hooping

you can’t hype what Lowry did them say harden was exposed :dead:
 
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lowry had 3 good games and 3 bad games. People are legitimately shocked when Lowry plays well
He played well throughout the entirety of the playoffs, including the Finals. Just because he didn't shoot well in any particular game doesn't mean he had a bad performance. Or do you seem to think that he's not making plays all over the floor, on both ends, when his shot is off? His playmaking was paramount whenever the Raptors hit a dead-end, or needed to reestablish fluidity within the offense, and the plays he made on defense, were literally game-changing. You know how teams naturally adopt the identity of their leader? Well, that's what the Raptors did: all hustle and heart, which kept them focused and minimized all their down periods - the very fabric that clothes a championship squad.

He had one of the best defensive performances in a postseason I've seen from a PG for a very, very, very long time.






And on the biggest stage (a closeout game of the Finals), he was definitively the best player on the floor. The doubters have nothing to say now; he proved them all wrong. No more jokes, no more memes, no more reproval - he buried all his doubters and closed the casket on them for good.

:hubie:
harden wasn’t exposed, his teammates didn’t play well enough. Harden was hooping
By hooping, do you mean the same shyt he does every single postseason - comes up short when it matters most, because his style of play isn't conducive to carrying a team as the #1 option? He had some good periods of play, but ultimately his game reared its ugly head, eventually. KD went down and the Warriors were undermanned, and that was the perfect time for him and the Rockets to take advantage of that, but he let Steph embarrass him on his own floor in an elimination game. How many times have we seen this story?

It's the same thing with him: his inconsistent effort, inability to provide any resistance on defense, inability to keep a consistent tempo on offense due to his style of play, inability to be versatile so his team doesn't run a predictable offense, and overall lethargy that holds the team back from maximizing runs or minimizing the opposition team's runs.

"Folk still couldn't see a player whose slothful, gutless temperament was reflected by his tendency to take shortcuts and exhaust loopholes, on both ends of the floor. The postseason climate peeled back his game to its very core, exposing it to the rays of teams' gameplanning, concentrated defensive schemes and the allowment of more contact"
you can’t hype what Lowry did them say harden was exposed :dead:
Except here's the thing - Lowry isn't a #1 option, so he's measured differently to Harden. When I "hype" Lowry, it's against a scale as a secondary option or sub-major piece - not with the superstars of the game. Same as anyone who would praise a role player's performance for living up to expectations or exceeding them; but criticize a superstar's performance for not living up to expectations.

You judge someone like P.J. Tucker differently to LeBron James, don't you?

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:mjlol:This thread:russ:
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Why are you laughing at all the Ls you took in this thread? More than anyone else.
One of my favorites!

The whole Coli had this p*ssy nikka scrambling, hiding and running - and didn't even have to put hands on him.

This year will be even more etherous for him!
Why would I want to scramble, run, and hide from something that I was telling y'all to be true, and turned out to be true, all throughout the season? All because of some regular-season wins that were never the point of this thread in the first place? What does this year prove? I was proven right last season.

Some of y'all need to find a new hobby; basketball ain't your thang.

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Looks like this need to be upped since we still have some rockheads who don't get it:
Spacing heat map rankings:

1. Bucks
2. Celtics
3. Warriors
4. Rockets
5. Hawks

26. Spurs
San Antonio were the 26th-ranked team during the regular season when it came to spacing, but if you were to compare their starters v. starters from the across the league, not only would they have ranked dead-last, but the margin between them and the second-worst team was greater than the 1st and the 20th-ranked starters.

Purely from a strategical standpoint, the Spurs' starters offense operated on a level that would've befitted play during the 1990s - light years behind today's league.

Shot generation v. defender rankings

1. Bucks
2. Celtics
3. Hawks
4. Nets
5. Jazz

29. Spurs

San Antonio were the 29th-ranked team during the regular season when it came to generation of shots, reiterating their inability to generate good* shots [good = uncontested and defense out of position], reflected by their overreliance on activity in the midrange, in a climate where defenses are typically stretched beyond the arc, which made it easier for their opposition to defend their offense (as opposition defenses usually are covering more ground and making more defensive adjustments against teams who shoot higher volume 3s - opposition defenses traveled less distance on defense against the Spurs than any other team during the regular season).

Basically, SA's pro tem offense was based on their players' talent and ability to generate points in ISO; off-balance/non-set, contested shots; heavy traffic; less space to work in - in spite of their offensive scheme which was holding them back (lack of spacing and lack of 'good' shot creation). This came to a head during the regular season in the games when they shot less than league-average on contested shots, where they ranked 24th on offense (this is to put into perspective how detrimental their offensive strategy was when they weren't making contested shots - they ranked top-5 in contested shot makes during the regular season, and #3 during the first round - contrary to popular belief that the Spurs lack the talent/personnel to win, they were actually winning/in position to win due to their players' ability to make tough shots, not their scheme/game-plan).

The cutting off their nose to spite their face act of trying to match 33% 3-pt efficiency (which is below league-average as it is) through shooting 50% on midrange shots, not only put themselves at an efficiency disadvantage, but they made an improbable task even more improbable by swimming against the tide trying to get those type of shots off in the first place.

TL;DR - Spurs' offensive scheme is completely outdated; Pop got left behind because he and the coaching staff failed to adjust to the 3-pt climate, and relied too heavily on mid post-ups, DD and midrange spots; the ability of the Spurs' players was the main reason that they were in position to win games, in spite of the coaching.
 

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He played well throughout the entirety of the playoffs, including the Finals. Just because he didn't shoot well in any particular game doesn't mean he had a bad performance. Or do you seem to think that he's not making plays all over the floor, on both ends, when his shot is off? His playmaking was paramount whenever the Raptors hit a dead-end, or needed to reestablish fluidity within the offense, and the plays he made on defense, were literally game-changing. You know how teams naturally adopt the identity of their leader? Well, that's what the Raptors did: all hustle and heart, which kept them focused and minimized all their down periods - the very fabric that clothes a championship squad.

He had one of the best defensive performances in a postseason I've seen from a PG for a very, very, very long time.






And on the biggest stage (a closeout game of the Finals), he was definitively the best player on the floor. The doubters have nothing to say now; he proved them all wrong. No more jokes, no more memes, no more reproval - he buried all his doubters and closed the casket on them for good.

:hubie:

By hooping, do you mean the same shyt he does every single postseason - comes up short when it matters most, because his style of play isn't conducive to carrying a team as the #1 option? He had some good periods of play, but ultimately his game reared its ugly head, eventually. KD went down and the Warriors were undermanned, and that was the perfect time for him and the Rockets to take advantage of that, but he let Steph embarrass him on his own floor in an elimination game. How many times have we seen this story?

It's the same thing with him: his inconsistent effort, inability to provide any resistance on defense, inability to keep a consistent tempo on offense due to his style of play, inability to be versatile so his team doesn't run a predictable offense, and overall lethargy that holds the team back from maximizing runs or minimizing the opposition team's runs.

"Folk still couldn't see a player whose slothful, gutless temperament was reflected by his tendency to take shortcuts and exhaust loopholes, on both ends of the floor. The postseason climate peeled back his game to its very core, exposing it to the rays of teams' gameplanning, concentrated defensive schemes and the allowment of more contact"

Except here's the thing - Lowry isn't a #1 option, so he's measured differently to Harden. When I "hype" Lowry, it's against a scale as a secondary option or sub-major piece - not with the superstars of the game. Same as anyone who would praise a role player's performance for living up to expectations or exceeding them; but criticize a superstar's performance for not living up to expectations.

You judge someone like P.J. Tucker differently to LeBron James, don't you?

:manny:

This nikka dikksucking has taken to levels no longer known to man
 
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Still think you know more about basketball than Gregg Popovich brehs:mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:
Why do you keep regurgitating this false talking point as if it means anything? Is it to deflect away from not wanting to acknowledge what's really going on? Do you do this in your personal life outside of this board too, where you lie to yourself just to fit in?

:lolbron:

Notice how you've never been able to address my argument after embarrassing yourself.
This nikka dikksucking has taken to levels no longer known to man
That would be more your expertise; I break shyt down in an objective manner, without needing to yell with my keyboard about fairytales.

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