I wish the the bullshyt would stop with job interviews

[Cynic]

The entire setup is fake as hell. Trying to tap dance for a job even though you're overqualified.

I just had a job interview with two white women (in Atlanta) for a marketing position for a professional association. I was the first interview (from what they said)... and received a "position filled" email in less than 24 hours

Is it me or are they only hiring the Black dudes that are feminine or wont speak their minds or look like the cornball type?

I have a degree and a father so im not gonna be going into interviews flimsy and on some thankya suh to be here-type shyt

It's you.

Why are you applying to jobs that you are overqualified for ?

You did market yourself as a potential prospect but failed to close

The rest is just assumptions man... what if they hired a black woman ?
or some coed white chick they could bully ? or some young guy they could give the mother hen treatment ?

I don't even do office politics but then again...I haven't had a "job" in 7-8 years

Keep going though

I tried legal entrepreneurship twice but it didn't take off for me. no shade to the successfully self-employed out there.

Twice and you bowed out?

 

[Rawtid]

Agreed



It ain't that easy. You got to have a specialty.



You trying to get nikkas arrested and put in federal prison over inter-state tax evasion nikka? This shyt has been against the law since the nation was founded. Stop it.



Depends on the region. Maybe in Atlanta. But up here in NYC we serious.

I have plenty in common with a Jewish CAC I work with and it's not American Idol. Mainly side business shyt, stocks, current events and talking about what we gonna do when we leave this company. NFL, straight male shyt. shyt that actually matters.

This is why you got to get in a technical niche within a field fukk that creative gay shyt get quantitative nikka. Analytics, Attribution Modeling, etc.

It's not supposed to be easy.

 

[AVXL]

Where did I complain about getting money in that post? I clearly said I have two jobs and both pay decent wages. Breh, I'm the only dude that keeps it real about Atlanta on The Coli and if you work a corporate job in Atlanta, you're a damned liar if you say you don't work with an abnormal amount of homos.

Again you're lying your ass off and I say this as a native Atlantan who currently works a corporate position in Atlanta. Your the only one who keeps it real about ATL, GTFOH outta here with that bullshyt

 

[AVXL]

ATL Coli Brehs got 5 yrs to get their Credit and money right, if a group of us haven't popped off something together by then then this site is useless.

what you got in mind

 

[Unknown Poster]

The bottom line is this: as a black man when you go into a job interview

1. They are not treating you as an individual
2. They are not judging you on why they should hire you....they are judging you on why they shouldn't.
3. Your posititive attributes will only be reflective of you. Your negative attributes will be reflected on all other black people and will be used as leverage against other black people in interviews....yes its not andrew (who happens to be black) happens to be late so that will be reflective of andrew....its andrew is black and hes late all the time so dont hire anymore black people cause they tend to be late all the time.

 

[Apollo Creed]

what you got in mind

Thats not for public discussion

 

[Unknown Poster]

It's a bunch of corny, fake bullshyt...

"Sir why do you want to work for us?"

my nikka I'm unemployed, I'm fukking popped fukk you mean why?

You gotta say some bullshyt like

"I feel I would be a tremendous asset to your company I feel like my skillset is ideal for your companies philosophy and I see this as a tremendous opportunity for me to enhance my portfolio and get to where I want to be. I see this as a prosperous, fruitful, long-term marriage down the road."



Yo, the are you a team player question is the worst.

Last year....when i went to job interviews and employers asked me "why do you want to work for us?" It literally took every bone in my body to not say "im homeless and sleeping in my car and need money."

I dont like the idea that my survival is based on how a cac or other person in power feels about me.

 

[agnosticlady]

I agree. my wife recently had an interview with a university here and she will have a PHd in a couple months (already has bachelors and masters) and despite being overqualified, they wasted her time cuz they already had internal candidates picked out in the first place.

Smh I hate that stuff so much. Sigh Black people have to work twice as hard.

Assuming you're in america. You gotta sell yourself. Yes its fake as fukk. But it is what it is.

Yep. You have to sell yourself, be two steps ahead, and make your own jobs. I am moving in July and already started looking up jobs , networking with people over there, and etc. I'm also trying to get some volunteer experience now because I know they will give to those Lilly white girls first.

Sometimes when you are a wolf you have to put on the sheep's clothes to achieve your objective.

Think about it like this- if the ends justify the means, then do what you gotta do. Just because you front for an interview does not seduce your dignity, unless your dignity and definition are that low to be impacted by some people who matter nothing to your life.

Yep...be nice and preppy. Never let people know your true intentions. Remember you are just there to get paid and use them to your professional advantage. Any blantant disrespect will be taken to HR, but other than that be neutral, friendly, use people, and avoid hot topics. Work is not the place for debates.

that internal candidate bullshyt is the WORST. they got cats taking time off work to come interview for some shyt they don't have a snowball's chance in hell cuz they already have their own person picked out in the first place.

they should make it illegal to even post those jobs in the first place.

I know that some companies have to post job adds to EET some type of regulations. Many just hire their nieces, newphews, family friends, and people they know. Where I'm moving I plan to network my ass off.

 

[MarloStanTrill]

Everybody has to sell yourself to get a job. But selling yourself is kind of effeminate in and of itself. It's especially demeaning when the cacs on the job think less of you.

OR you start your own and dance for no one. If a CLIENT comesoff wrong, I tell them to fucc off b4 i "dance" for them

 

[AVXL]

Thats not for public discussion

Understood

Spoiler

 

[agnosticlady]

Last year....when i went to job interviews and employers asked me "why do you want to work for us?" It literally took every bone in my body to not say "im homeless and sleeping in my car and need money."

I dont like the idea that my survival is based on how a cac or other person in power feels about me.

Yep lol, but you have to prep and practice. Learn all that you can about this company. Smart people will kiss ass in private because it will get you places. I just got a new job and my ass will get a promotion by July .

 

[Unknown Poster]

Yep lol, but you have to prep and practice. Learn all that you can about this company. Smart people will kiss ass in private because it will get you places. I just got a new job and my ass will get a promotion by July .

I work for myself now. Couldn't be happier.

Being homeless for 8 months out of the year in NYC of all places changed my whole perspective...

 

[agnosticlady]

I work for myself now. Couldn't be happier.

Being homeless for 8 months out of the year in NYC of all places changed my whole perspective...

What do you work for yourself doing?

 

[moniemane]

Man fukk corp jobs as well as starting your own buisness everybody cant do that and many buisnesses fail keep sleeping on trades and vocations and work bullshyt sales jobs

 

[UserNameless]

Getting a job isnt about the qualifications, its about showing you fit in. The problem is that you dont know exactly what type of "fitting in" they are looking for.

So true. After the interviewers viewing and reading my credentials and listening to my presentation, I've had people come right out and ask,"From what you've heard, can you blend, here?"

that's the game man. For many of these folks, the job is their life... low or high key. they don't want any problems.

I've always found that moving toward a dialogue with the interviewers, where it feels more like a conversation than a deposition or an interrogation is best. Although it should be the other way around, YOU have to disarm the interviewers. You don't have to be effeminate, but you have to demonstrate a measure of personable traits and affability for most job interviews.

as @Motife43 said:

• Interview THEM (If you're personable and a good talker, flip the tables and interview them, ask questions, hell try to make the interview about something other than the job, it'll help you ease up too)

Unless you're interviewing for a higher level position in a Stem field.
...where it's all business.









It's a delicate dance if that's something that doesn't come naturally...and to do it in such a way that doesn't compromise your integrity.

OP, you've been on the job advancement hunt for a little while man. for keeping the grind going.

try going to different networking events that are diverse, and hone your skills. Observe. Mimic (in your own way that's as authentic to you as possible). And set goals when it comes to networking that are rooted in influencing others. that'll help with interview presentation. Also watch pop, faux news shows on the Web. that fake shyt is permeating the society and the intonations, language, gestures are being internalized by folks as the norm.

but if you don't wanna play the game to some degree to land most jobs (and most jobs are people centric) then either start your own shyt and/or transition to a field where the work is more individualized and independent of dealing with people.

Read my thread on job searching in HL. You may have to search for it.

Marketing in ATL will be tough. You're probably gonna have to move up to cold ass NYC if you want more opportunities and less discrimination.

ATL is a lot of us but still a lot of racism and discrimination compared to up here.

@AVXL