"i wish we could get the 90's back" discussion

[razassin]

This happens in all genres of music... The 90s heads luv 90s hip hop cuz it reminds them of thangz they lived...

This generation gone hate on the next generation n its always gone be like that

Im 25 n i fukks with the old n the new school

 

[Nomad1]

90's was the best decade in movies, tv shows, music, etc. But life goes on and we cant do nothing about that.

 

[DoomzdayzV]

while I do agree that every generation is gonna look at the music, movies, TV shows, video games etc of their childhood and teens as the best....when it comes to hip hop there is no mistaking that 87-97 had a magic to it that no other era will ever capture. hip hop is too old at this point for that kinda excitement.

 

[Suicide King]

I think what people miss is the standard, the soul in the music, the mystique, the edgier more dangerous brand of music moreso than the era itself.

This has more to do with creativity, and less to do with the signs of the time. People would be surprised, but there was a lot of trash that came out in the 90's. In the 90's people's major complaint was about their favorite not getting shine. You really had a lot of stans back then.

I think this era is stagnant because you have the South which rarely produced anything but catchy + superficial music. Also, you have too many 30 - 35 year old rappers. Record labels are starting to realize that model doesn't work because you notice the people who are really producing some of the most interesting music are under 25 years old.

Most of my top 5 rappers are damn near 40 years old or dead.

 

[mobbinfms]

Recently watched a block of videos including In The Ghetto (Eric an Ra), Just to Get a Rep and Supa Star (Group Home). All of the videos were shot in the artists neighborhood and depicted them in a realistic fashion. The artists didn't look like untouchable drug kingpins, they looked like average people from the neighborhood (ok. Eric B had on a lot of fukking gold, but other than that!). Also, the subject matter was about things that people from similar environments could relate to. And Ra was getting on some crazy metaphysical pro black shyt.

To compare, this generation has a video with Jay Z rapping about modern art in an art gallery.

 

[BIGDENNIS10UK]

I miss rappers gettin a good old fashioned ass whoopin and gettin their shoes, clothes and hat tooken

 

[criminology]

To me it's a volume thing. We're all excited now for TDE because they all seem talented and capable of releasing good projects but in the 90s they would have been one of dozens. There were styles for everyone and it was important to be original. The culture has withered and been taken over by suits and its just slim pickings comparatively, mostly because of the low volume. What's weird though is that it's way easier to make and release music now then it was in the 90s.

 

[JCalli]

interesting. but this thread wasn't made for a discussion on "was the 90's better" it was more so analyzing how every era doesn't seem to appreciate something as much during that time period until its gone.

That's a good point you bring up. It's kinda relative to every generation, I was genuinely taken back by some of the posters older than me and how they viewed and attacked some albums in the 90s, particularly It Was Written. Of course they came from the generation above me so had a different perspective, whereas i was a shorty.

With that said, a strong argument can be made for the 90's being the best period in hip hop. So many key things:

*Pac & Big - their music, deaths, beef and the impact that had
*Nas & Jay - iconic albums (particularly the former ) and their impact in the game. They still of the the most anticipated artists to this day.

*Ice Cube - 3 classic, controversial back to back albums that had the people shook

*Death Row .... a legendary period in hip hop.

*East v West

*Wu Tang - their run in the 90's was ridiculous. I don't think i'll witness what they did again.

*The video's were so dope back then and so were the shows. Over these shores mtv raps was the sh*t anyway

*The artists from the 80s were still very much killin it (LL, Rakim, KRS, G Rap all released classics)

I feel to mention Mobb Deep too because they entered the game and tore shyt down. Everyone fukked with the mobb and infamous.

I know i've missed a gang of sh*t too but all of the above were iconic in hip hop.

I'd be interested though to hear the views of the older posters like Art Barr & Big Mel. I know they kind of see from 96 onwards as the beginning of the end.

 

[Funcrusher]

I can't claim to have experienced 90's hiphop, but I still prefer it over today's music. To me it's not about bringing the 90's back in terms of sound, more in terms of quality. The digital era has low standards and most of the mainstream is just aimed at making junkfood music, with barely any talent of skill required. That's why I don't believe what someone else stated in this thread, that the music from '00 to '10 will be looked upon as the golden era, simply because a lot of it has no replay value whatsoever, no depth and no soul. These days we forget about a song or album in a week, and we're on to the next one.

 

[OG Talk]

Nah man there's 90s hip hop, and late 60s/early 70s rock, and then there's the rest of contemporary music

Add the Gamble and Huff era of R&B/Soul to this and I agree 100%...Trying to hold anyone up to these standards is unrealistic and unfair...

I just used to want more choices in the current mainstream...That was also my main gripe..Now I'm coming to realize that there really is no longer a mainstream hip hop culture.. It basically just consists of 4 or 5 artists whos content and sound is almost identical..So now its all about digging in the digital crates to find the diamonds in the rough...

 

[bangedher_wholesquad]

NoJayz music aged terribly Biggie and 2 PAC didn't.

If anything I missed 2 PAC. I was too young to appreciate what he did at the time. But looking. Back. Everything he tried to stand for and did.

Nowadays rap is pop music so they look for a safe pop star.

I mean I don't even talk hip hop no more like I used too. Like who dropped what 16. Who beefing with who. When the next album is coming our. Damn at that nikkas back story.

Now its just me and a bunch people hating. And nerdy ass kids or loser adults telling meothrotherwise.

O with well. Blurred lines sold 177000. All those rappers buy there own album Cruz no way in hell jay z could have topped that mega hit. Probably the biggest song of the yrlear only selling that much.

That's why this period sucks too. Too many actors and shyt in the game.

 

[BigF]

It's all subjective, friends.
Nostalgia is a powerful thing.

 

[J-Fire]

interesting. but this thread wasn't made for a discussion on "was the 90's better" it was more so analyzing how every era doesn't seem to appreciate something as much during that time period until its gone.

86' here. I think the 90's was the best too. What mid 80's baby didn't think so?

Rap and hip-hop was infused in everything when we came up. Even non rap acts would do a verse or get someone to do a verse.
i remember the colored jeans in the early 90's so i support the kids that wear them now in days!!!

we talked about the biggie and pac beef when I was in 4th and 5th grade quite often on the school bus. some of my first albums were It was written, LAD, coolio's jawnt, Mr. Smith album, busta rhymes, big willie style, sunset park soundtrack.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

This has more to do with creativity, and less to do with the signs of the time. People would be surprised, but there was a lot of trash that came out in the 90's. In the 90's people's major complaint was about their favorite not getting shine. You really had a lot of stans back then.

I think this era is stagnant because you have the South which rarely produced anything but catchy + superficial music. Also, you have too many 30 - 35 year old rappers. Record labels are starting to realize that model doesn't work because you notice the people who are really producing some of the most interesting music are under 25 years old.

Most of my top 5 rappers are damn near 40 years old or dead.

Breh, that's a pretty sweeping generalization of rap music in the south. Plus keep it real, the ones that deserved the shine also got it in the 90s, naturally there were trash artists as in any era but a lot of the talent also rose to the top given the ideal label situation. But I don't think this is for lack of creativity, it's just that our values have change in society in a pretty drastic way. Not to say there wasn't staunch individualism in the 90s either but there were still portions of that social element still lingering from the social rights era of the 60s and 70s. It's like it's bullet riddled, coke stained corpse somehow Weekend at Bernie'd its way into the 90s and its memory was continued by nikkaz trying to keep a balance between gangsta shyt and righteous shyt.

I can't expect those types of feelings to continue up til this day. Lets be honest, being real in the music industry isn't really wanted right now. Safe artists are the thing, anyone that does have a message has to be able dilute it by creating the same fantastical lifestyles that are bombarded on people in commercials everyday or something ignorant with no skill to speak of. Real shyt, Hip Hop culture has always been a mirror of society and even now it's doing it's job in that regard. Our society is hella fukked, so how could 90s type real shyt make a comeback? If you aren't brainless with an oversimplified flow then your too expensive to develop as an artist? Rap music a conveyor belt right now, nothing organic about it.

 

[J-Fire]

while I do agree that every generation is gonna look at the music, movies, TV shows, video games etc of their childhood and teens as the best....when it comes to hip hop there is no mistaking that 87-97 had a magic to it that no other era will ever capture. hip hop is too old at this point for that kinda excitement.

except for no limit records....disgust! big and pac just died....sounded like a step backwards even from a melodic standpoint that was noticeable at age 12 in 1998. 1998 I was into big pun cause he had a nice flow. No limit didn't seem like they could rap at all!