"i wish we could get the 90's back" discussion

[tybo]

I would just really sum it up like this...

1999 and before rappers cared about being the best, 2000 and after rappers cared about being the richest.

/thread

 

[Manuel Hot Pepper Lopez]

There isn't just one single thing that's killed rap, but A big problem is hip-hop came from the hood and was based on hood experiences and culture, and the hood is being completely phased out of American culture. Harlem looking like San Fransisco
You can't even find ONE decent black sitcom on tv, nothing built around normal around the way black people...and Tyler Perry fiascoes do not count. Even tv is all hipster now
The youth of today are softer than ever before in history. These fakkits have grown up being told they're too precious and delicate to have dodgeballs thrown at them or fail a grade in school. Drake is a face of hip-hop today. Drake. A Canadian named Aubrey

 

[2manyFCKNrappers]

it's not just the music....it was everything. i was watching The Sandlot the other day and the whole time I was just in a state of wanting the 90s back....I wouldn't care if I never saw another cell phone again. Truth be told, everytime I get a text or my phone rings it's starting to annoy the shyt out of me.

 

[bl2k8]

If people were gonna start callin the 00's classic it woulda have been started by now, stop with this nostaligia excuse

 

[blackslash]

goin back??

Im excited about the places hip hop iis headin

The future lookin bright

Progression
Anti Regression

 

[NotaPAWG]

Another thing, cats in the 90s were never screaming "I wish nikkas made rap like the 80s". It was obvious that the art of emceeing had evolved. If you had that today then we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I tweeted bout this yesterday

There are actually a lot of talented rappers right now..

I'll use Meek Mill as an example, people can hate the dude however they want, but his old freestyles, and mixtapes, and releases from when he was first coming up showed skills on the mic..he rapped about real street shyt..and was nice with it.. then he got big and as an mc it seems like he became one dimensional and dumbed him self down because lets face it, hip hop for the most part, is still stuck in this "club hop" faze.

What happened to artist development? Do labels not even try anymore because they realize the younger generation don't have the attention span and would rather listen to something they can get down to in the club?

I think a lot of these artist don't recognize that for the time right now, they're gettin the hype, they're gettin the money.. but that's only goin to last so long.

Mosted the hyped up, ring tong rappers and shyt from 00's, where are they now? Where as you look at Jay Z and Nas, it's completely different..

Too many rappers concerned about their hot year or two, instead of longevity and being good on the mic. Then when they become irrelevant they're goin to try and come back and displays their skills on the mic, and for the most part, no ones gonna give a shyt.

You have so many kids and younger dudes who will listen to a whole chief keef album, but can't make it through a whole album of an mc who is actually skilled as an mc?

Why is that?

I know as I got older, my attention span isn't as much there as it was when I was a kid.. Is it because the over abundance of music of today? There's TOO much of it bein thrown at us? We just wanna hear the first thing that SOUNDS bangin because will all the music and artist there are to check out we don't have the time to focus on one artists skills?


Anyways, i think once the kids who were born in the mid-late 90s grow up, things will start lookin better

 

[Taadow]

...when it comes to hip hop there is no mistaking that 87-97 had a magic to it that no other era will ever capture. hip hop is too old at this point for that kinda excitement.

Thread over right here.

EDIT - well thread almost over right here. Hip-hop listeners don't get excited about ish anymore.
87-97 had "magic" because everything was new. We've seen it all. We can't get that feeling back.

 

[Taadow]

it's not just the music....it was everything. i was watching The Sandlot the other day and the whole time I was just in a state of wanting the 90s back....I wouldn't care if I never saw another cell phone again. Truth be told, everytime I get a text or my phone rings it's starting to annoy the shyt out of me.

Breux - this is gospel, mayne.

I had to quote it because just yesterday:

- I bought The Sandlot for $3 at Wal-Mart
- I left my phone at work and didn't realize it until I got home. I said "F it - i'll get it tomorrow"

 

[Goat poster]

I think people miss the standards and unsaturation that the 90s had more then anything.

 

[Art Barr]

I tweeted bout this yesterday

There are actually a lot of talented rappers right now..

I'll use Meek Mill as an example, people can hate the dude however they want, but his old freestyles, and mixtapes, and releases from when he was first coming up showed skills on the mic..he rapped about real street shyt..and was nice with it.. then he got big and as an mc it seems like he became one dimensional and dumbed him self down because lets face it, hip hop for the most part, is still stuck in this "club hop" faze.

What happened to artist development? Do labels not even try anymore because they realize the younger generation don't have the attention span and would rather listen to something they can get down to in the club?

I think a lot of these artist don't recognize that for the time right now, they're gettin the hype, they're gettin the money.. but that's only goin to last so long.

Mosted the hyped up, ring tong rappers and shyt from 00's, where are they now? Where as you look at Jay Z and Nas, it's completely different..

Too many rappers concerned about their hot year or two, instead of longevity and being good on the mic. Then when they become irrelevant they're goin to try and come back and displays their skills on the mic, and for the most part, no ones gonna give a shyt.

You have so many kids and younger dudes who will listen to a whole chief keef album, but can't make it through a whole album of an mc who is actually skilled as an mc?

Why is that?

I know as I got older, my attention span isn't as much there as it was when I was a kid.. Is it because the over abundance of music of today? There's TOO much of it bein thrown at us? We just wanna hear the first thing that SOUNDS bangin because will all the music and artist there are to check out we don't have the time to focus on one artists skills?


Anyways, i think once the kids who were born in the mid-late 90s grow up, things will start lookin better

You are incorrect.
Meek mills, did nuffin but use the base skill g-unit technical base at best. which was a hybrid of mase mixed Pac.
That every emcee, in a general major label context.
All use, bite and employ with various degrees of de-gradation and no skill adaptation.
Or they are all horrifically offley and lack any actual technical skill.
That illustrates how lowly skilled they are.
Meek mills raps the way he raps because he is lowly skilled and a major label revenue grab attempted mixtape rapper they gave a major label deal to as a handout.
he is no majorly skilled emcee.
he nuffin more than another wack rapper using revenue grab semantics.
From his mixtape to battling, all that shyt was a low skills submission to just be rich.
people forget the mixtape scene really was a major label depot for artist trapped in administrative limbo on a label.
The boom of fiddy and eminem's eight mile battle premise is the only reason why you had an influx of people trying to rap.
These artist never cared about hip hop as a culture and you could tell from their skillbase to their lack of diverse content.
Which was at its deepest, is ice cube dead homies at best.

Which is a twenty year old cliche content wise for mainstream rap.

Meek mills is no real underground marvel.
The mixtape scene was not the culturally endorsed underground. It was a revenue grab realm, after the boom of fiddy.
Real artist in the underground put out real albums formatted records, single or actual vinyl.
It was not until ye oversaturation of ye mixtape realm with these revenue grab sellout based rappers did it become an original album based.
which only arose because of the sampling, copywrite, amd publishing laws no longer were kept out from a loophole.
Believe me,...
If not for eight mile or fiddy..

None of these new nikkas who are revenue grab artist would want to rap at all.

Nobody who is real is fooled by these sellout revenue grab culture thieves.
Meek mills is definitely one of those lowly skilled revenue grab culture thief types.
No way you try to authenticate his wack offkey legion in 1993 no rappin ass as having some skill.


Art Barr

 

[NotaPAWG]

You are incorrect.
Meek mills, did nuffin but use the base skill g-unit technical base at best. which was a hybrid of mase mixed Pac.
That every emcee, in a general major label context.
All use, bite and employ with various degrees of de-gradation and no skill adaptation.
Or they are all horrifically offley and lack any actual technical skill.
That illustrates how lowly skilled they are.
Meek mills raps the way he raps because he is lowly skilled and a major label revenue grab attempted mixtape rapper they gave a major label deal to as a handout.
he is no majorly skilled emcee.
he nuffin more than another wack rapper using revenue grab semantics.
From his mixtape to battling, all that shyt was a low skills submission to just be rich.
people forget the mixtape scene really was a major label depot for artist trapped in administrative limbo on a label.
The boom of fiddy and eminem's eight mile battle premise is the only reason why you had an influx of people trying to rap.
These artist never cared about hip hop as a culture and you could tell from their skillbase to their lack of diverse content.
Which was at its deepest, is ice cube dead homies at best.

Which is a twenty year old cliche content wise for mainstream rap.

Meek mills is no real underground marvel.
The mixtape scene was not the culturally endorsed underground. It was a revenue grab realm, after the boom of fiddy.
Real artist in the underground put out real albums formatted records, single or actual vinyl.
It was not until ye oversaturation of ye mixtape realm with these revenue grab sellout based rappers did it become an original album based.
which only arose because of the sampling, copywrite, amd publishing laws no longer were kept out from a loophole.
Believe me,...
If not for eight mile or fiddy..

None of these new nikkas who are revenue grab artist would want to rap at all.

Nobody who is real is fooled by these sellout revenue grab culture thieves.
Meek mills is definitely one of those lowly skilled revenue grab culture thief types.
No way you try to authenticate his wack offkey legion in 1993 no rappin ass as having some skill.


Art Barr

tldr: meek mill is wack

regardless of what your personal feelings are on meek, I was simply using him as example, to you, it might have been a bad one, but what I said regarding artist development still is true

 

[CrimsonTider]

90's was the best decade in movies, tv shows, music, etc. But life goes on and we cant do nothing about that.

No it wasn't.

and laugh at Marky Mark all you want, but his life was more real than about 200% of these rappers today.

How so

The 90's dont need to comeback, just new york needs to comeback. Snap music,ringtone rap,dance rap etc all comes from the south. The south is the reason music is so underwhelming nowadays

People want the rawness of the 90's back not the entire sound back. At least I do.

Define rawness?

I think people miss the standards and unsaturation that the 90s had more then anything.

What standards?

 

[tybo]

No it wasn't.




How so






Define rawness?


What standards?

Son, you literally added nothing to this thread.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Son, you literally added nothing to this thread.

Everyone in the booth is aware of my opinions on that romanticism of 90s hiphop.

 

[Jacksonville Swaguar]

Everyone in the booth is aware of my opinions on that romanticism of 90s hiphop.

wtf are you?