IANAHB 2 projected to sale 210K first week

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Honestly to me it's an excuse. Fans didn't skip "The Black Album" or "Kingdom Come" cause "It's not the blueprint or Vol series". Flagship? The Carter 1 and 2 didn't break the charts open only the last 2 did. It makes no sense that your fanbase would skip over albums of your work when you are suppose to be the hottest in the game. It's clear the fans are now holding Wayne a little more accountable for subpar material. This isn't a case of "Oh it's not the Carter". It's a case of IMO him dropping another average album and the fans aren't going to reward him for it.

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Honestly to me it's an excuse. Fans didn't skip "The Black Album" or "Kingdom Come" cause "It's not the blueprint or Vol series". Flagship? The Carter 1 and 2 didn't break the charts open only the last 2 did. It makes no sense that your fanbase would skip over albums of your work when you are suppose to be the hottest in the game. It's clear the fans are now holding Wayne a little more accountable for subpar material. This isn't a case of "Oh it's not the Carter". It's a case of IMO him dropping another average album and the fans aren't going to reward him for it.

Exactly.

A true version of a side project is what Dr. Dre did. Went from the Chronic to "Presents the Aftermath" to Chronic 2001. That Aftermath had no bearing on 2001 being on the biggest album releases of that year and selling really well.

Would people call American Gangster a side project? Jay allowed no singles to be sold, only whole albums on iTunes, and no huge singles (Roc Boys peaked at 64) and STILL sold a million.

While IANAHB is not a true Wayne album to most casual fans, that speaks more about Wayne than it does about the general public's view.

And Wayne fans still don't like to talk about how C4 sold over a million less than C3 though they both started out near the same in sales first week.
 

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Would people call American Gangster a side project? Jay allowed no singles to be sold, only whole albums on iTunes, and no huge singles (Roc Boys peaked at 64) and STILL sold a million.

American Gangster wasn't a side project.

Those 2 albums with R. Kelly were.

It's like hanging Unfinished Business over Hov's head when discussing his career.
 
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American Gangster wasn't a side project.

Those 2 albums with R. Kelly were.

It's like hanging Unfinished Business over Hov's head when discussing his career.

How do you truly discuss a collaboration album though with an album like IANAHB 2?

AG wasn't a side project. I'll say it wasn't. Not like Kelly fans talk about Best Of Both Worlds or Unfinished Business either. Same way Wayne fans don't even count Hot Boys albums.

But back on topic, I think calling albums side projects mean it's experimental or something out of your ordinary path. What's out of the box with "bytches Love Me" or "No Worries" as far as Wayne songs go?

So you're telling me that over 800k people decided to not by an album because the title was I Am Not A Human Being 2 of Tha Carter V???

I gave Rebirth a pass for it being a rock album. IANAHB 1 was advertised as throwaway/album quality tracks thrown together before his jail term.

But this? How is this not a complete, well thought out album?

I guess T.I. should have called Trouble Man "Paper Trail 2" instead...
 

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Yes a Side project is really like you said, Dre doing the Aftermath album. Or Pac doing Thug Life. Or Biggie doing Junior Mafia. Or Wayne doing "Young Money". That's side projects. This is a full lenth Wayne album. By saying "These numbers are low cause it's not The Carter" makes no sense. The fact he's doing a sequel to "IANAHB" is basically him saying he's expanding the series. Why would he do a sequel to a Side project? Just like Jay, Wayne obviously wanted more than one series. I understand "The Carter" now is his Blockbuster series like a franchise but that doesn't explain 700k fans disappearing in a year and a half.

He's doing a sequel cause he felt the 1st one was successful enough to do another one. Also C4 did drop in sales from C3. Wayne has been losing fans since C3 which was boost from his normal fanbase. Like I said, Wayne is mostly a Gold/Platinum artist. He rarely goes multi-platinum. These 3 singles especially "No worries" or "Love Me" could of been the singles from the Carter V. Why is it so hard to admit Wayne dropped an average album and not the fans are responding this way. They let him get away with C4 but it's clear they ain't letting get away again.
 

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How do you truly discuss a collaboration album though with an album like IANAHB 2?

AG wasn't a side project. I said it wasn't. Not like Kelly fans talk about Best Of Both Worlds or Unfinished Business either. Same way Wayne fans don't even count Hot Boys albums.

But back on topic, I think calling albums side projects mean it's experimental or something out of your ordinary path. What's out of the box with "bytches Love Me" or "No Worries" as far as Wayne songs go?

So you're telling me that over 800k people decided to not by an album because the title was I Am Not A Human Being 2 of Tha Carter V???

I gave Rebirth a pass for it being a rock album. IANAHB 1 was advertised as throwaway/album quality tracks thrown together before his jail term.

But this? How is this not a complete, well thought out album?

I guess T.I. should have called Trouble Man "Paper Trail 2" instead...

Those I Am Not A Human Being projects tend to be stuff to keep thirsty ass fans tidied over. Albums nonetheless, but like the first one, it was a bunch of songs he made that he threw out there. Given how the first one had a ton of brand new material (AND a hit single as well) the only difference is that Wayne could actually do promo for part II.
 

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Yes a Side project is really like you said, Dre doing the Aftermath album. Or Pac doing Thug Life. Or Biggie doing Junior Mafia. Or Wayne doing "Young Money". That's side projects. This is a full lenth Wayne album. By saying "These numbers are low cause it's not The Carter" makes no sense. The fact he's doing a sequel to "IANAHB" is basically him saying he's expanding the series. Why would he do a sequel to a Side project? Just like Jay, Wayne obviously wanted more than one series. I understand "The Carter" now is his Blockbuster series like a franchise but that doesn't explain 700k fans disappearing in a year and a half.

He's doing a sequel cause he felt the 1st one was successful enough to do another one. Also C4 did drop in sales from C3. Wayne has been losing fans since C3 which was boost from his normal fanbase. Like I said, Wayne is mostly a Gold/Platinum artist. He rarely goes multi-platinum. These 3 singles especially "No worries" or "Love Me" could of been the singles from the Carter V. Why is it so hard to admit Wayne dropped an average album and not the fans are responding this way. They let him get away with C4 but it's clear they ain't letting get away again.

The problem with your argument is that you can't argue how fans didn't buy the first IANAHB and then came back to buy Tha Carter IV, thrown out records or not (one of those songs turned out to be a top 10 hit even while he was in jail-- Right Above It)

It really comes down to fans simply being interested in Tha Carter series as opposed to anything that he puts out, and even the "anything he puts out" does good numbers.
 

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How do you truly discuss a collaboration album though with an album like IANAHB 2?

AG wasn't a side project. I'll say it wasn't. Not like Kelly fans talk about Best Of Both Worlds or Unfinished Business either. Same way Wayne fans don't even count Hot Boys albums.

But back on topic, I think calling albums side projects mean it's experimental or something out of your ordinary path. What's out of the box with "bytches Love Me" or "No Worries" as far as Wayne songs go?

So you're telling me that over 800k people decided to not by an album because the title was I Am Not A Human Being 2 of Tha Carter V???

I gave Rebirth a pass for it being a rock album. IANAHB 1 was advertised as throwaway/album quality tracks thrown together before his jail term.

But this? How is this not a complete, well thought out album?

I guess T.I. should have called Trouble Man "Paper Trail 2" instead...

That's basically what nikkaz are saying:russ:
 

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it's good
and I like the album, surely not every song but there's like 3 good bangers in there.
Love Cory Gunz's verse,.. damn and gunplay too even Nicki
the rock one is good too

These numbers are good because remember this is not a lil wayne album
Dis is an album to help him promote other members of Young Money that's all.

Let's b real, that's what this album is
Promoting other members and nothing more.

Yep. This is his version of Jay's Roc La Familia when you think about it
 
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