Ice cube calls out shiela jackson about hr 40 bill. And those who say he unqualified

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Your right, he wasn't fit to lead until he became a rapper :mjlol: thank you for proving my point. I see why you were triggered earlier.

This country is toast

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The commander in chief is a reality TV star since you wanna be juvenile about the shyt... Common sense is lacking around these parts.... :smh:
 

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i can repeat that reparations are owed x10000000000000000.

They're not even close to happening.

So while the world is spinning with or without you/us/me, its time to put points in the board instead of throwing hail mary's every time you get the ball.

And...I repeat. This isn't any of your business. So, what you think is mute.

If Black people want to advocate for themselves -- and themselves ONLY. Let us do that.
 

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There is never a wrong time to speak up for your people. Nor engage in change.

We all "cape" for ourselves. But, we can also "cape" for others -- especially when we see they really need help.
Would you want a lawyer speaking for you that just got into the profession a few months ago on something that could give you life in prison?
 

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@Jekyll, remember what you were saying about people who just blab shyt without being informed?

Gender discrimination had NOTHING to do with any of the original Civil Rights bills passed in the 1960s. All of those bills were focused on racial discrimination. Things like women getting Affirmative Action weren't added until the Women's Movement pushed that shyt separately on their own.

This 1/4 informed bullshyt from you is really getting old. :francis:







No, White women and gay men are NOT included when the legislation specifies racial minorities. They are only included when the language also includes gender or sexual orientation discrimination. For example, when he refers to legislation for Small Disadvantaged Businesses, that ONLY includes groups from historically disadvantaged communities, not privileged white women or gay men. Businesses owned by women are WOSB's or EDWOSB's, not SDB's.

Similarly, the Minority Business Development Agency ONLY addresses racial minorities, not white women or gay white men.

Similarly, the Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing Rule only applies to racial and economic discrimination, not gender/sex discrimination.

Similarly, the 10-20-30 rule ONLY affects historically disadvantaged communities, not privileged people who happen to be female or gay.

Similarly, when he's forgiving all loans from HCBUs, that does NOT apply to women or gay men who attend private PWI's.

I could go on but the point is made.

And you're right, the $15,000 for first-time homeowners and tens of billions for minority-owned small businesses will only help those folk in the Black community who want to build wealth. But Biden's plan also includes a new renter's tax credit, fully funding Section 8 (it's only 1/4 funded right now which is why you have to go on a 10-year waiting list to get it), changing zoning laws to make more affordable housing available (the integration shyt that Trump keeps trying to scare suburban white women with), the Legal Assistance to Prevent Evictions Act by Clyburn, and the 10-20-30 plan by Clyburn and Booker. So everyone across the income spectrum is covered by some part of the plan.

Not to mention the student loan forgiveness for those who attended HCBUs or the elimination of tuition costs at HCBUs or the funds to hire Black and Brown cops or the expansion of community health centers or the expansion in Black voter rights, etc.

What would you want, specifically, in Biden's plan that is not there right now and you think could pass the House/Senate?

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Double funding for the State Small Business Credit Initiative. The Obama-Biden Administration created the State Small Business Credit Initiative (SSBCI) to support small businesses, driving $10 billion in new lending for each $1 billion in SSBCI funds. Biden will extend the program through 2025 and double its federal funding to $3 billion, driving close to $30 billion of private sector investments to small businesses all told,
especially those owned by women and people of color.

Reserve half of all the new PPP funds for small businesses with 50 employees or less, so the bigger and more well-connected aren’t able to win in a first-come, first-served race. While this will help the vast majority of small businesses, it should also help target more funding to minority-owned businesses, given 98% of all minority-and women-owned businesses have fewer than 50 employees.

Produce a weekly dashboard to show which small businesses are accessing loans. Such a dashboard would help drive better data collection on the beneficiaries of small business support related to the COVID-19 epidemic, including in particular collecting data by gender and race, in order to ensure that the program isn’t leaving out communities, minority- and women-owned businesses, or the smallest businesses.

Restore the federal government’s role in setting the bar for other employers to advance opportunities for all workers. Biden will restore and build on the Obama-Biden Administration’s Fair Pay and Safe Workplaces executive order, which Trump revoked, requiring employers’ compliance with labor and employment laws be taken into account in determining whether they are sufficiently responsible to be entrusted with federal contracts. And, he will mandate that contractors publicly disclose plans to recruit and advance people of color, women, people with disabilities, and covered veterans and will increase enforcement efforts, including pursuing debarment where contractors refuse to end discriminatory practices.




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Joe said a lot here in the 1st 3 minutes of this video..

It goes over a lot of people's
head though..

Joe can pass laws at the federal level, but its the local politicians thats fcking the people over..

So even if Joe Biden passed a bill thats supposedly for black people, local politicians fck over the people thats meant for.

So when people start talking "specifically" tangibles for blacks, you take away the ability for local politicians to fck you..

Thats why people say the black caucus is a joke, because they constantly allow black people to get fcked, and we sent to Washington to fight for us.

Its politics people.. Its designed to keep you confused and white people ultimately stay on top.. :manny:
 

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I said that he could have spoken on it AT ANY POINT between then and now. The bill was first introduced when he was 19, he apparently started having issues with it at the age of 51. Literally his entire adult life went by before he decided that it needed to be fixed.

What age do you think is old enough to start getting politically engaged?
More gatekeeper talk.

If someone choses to become politically engaged at the age of 85, that’s their business.

Y’all want a big tent or a country club?
 

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Who is he supposed to talk to?
Local elected representatives.

You can call them. You can write them. You can email them. You can pull up on them in townhall/public forum. You can protest them. You can support PACs and lobby them.

The fact that you're asking me this as a grown man means you've never demanded tangibles for your own community as a "regular guy" in your life. More than likely a racist cac is speaking for you when denying reparations

You have no place to say that experts aren't doing enough when you aint doing shyt in regular guy measures.:camby:
yall not pro black, just sassy and lost.
 

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The same Coates who has publicly supported the toothless deflection known as HR 40?

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And this is the furthest H.R. 40 has gotten --- WHY? ADOS reaching out, calling , faxing, calling our reps to task to make them sign. So, they need to fall back.
So if Coates has been vocally pushing HR 40 hard since 2014 when THERE WASN'T ANY SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC MOVEMENT FOR REPARATIONS AT ALL he's just "supporting a toothless deflection", but if #ADOS jumps on board to promote it five years later it's suddenly an accomplishment worth bragging about. :deadrose:

I guess if you shyt on Coates for pushing HR 40 as a first step then you're shytting on #ADOS too. :heh:

NO one individual in America has done as much as Ta-Nehisi Coates to make reparations a real discussion again. When he dropped his shyt in 2014 people like Clyburn and N'COBRA were being completely ignored by the mainstream. He made it pop nationally and actually got all these people talking who hadn't even been in the game. To talk shyt about the work he's put in is ignorant as fukk.
 

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Would you want a lawyer speaking for you that just got into the profession a few months ago on something that could give you life in prison?

I hate when people use analogies to compare the incomparable.

It's a White Supremacist tactic -- white people love doing it. I digress...

Cube speaking out saying he wants something specific for Black Americans/ADOS based off historical ills -- is not the same (nor can be compared too) as a lawyer I hire to represent me in court.

With that logic -- most of the past revered Black Americans who spoke for us -- should have STFU. Cause, they weren't "qualified." And just waited -- cause it wasn't the right time.

How is Cube not qualified to speak on what he has seen happen to his family, people and community? He is simply lending his voice and platform to an ongoing fight. Which is beautiful to see.
 

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More gatekeeper talk.

If someone choses to become politically engaged at the age of 85, that’s their business.

Y’all want a big tent or a country club?
Read what I've written again. I said I had NO PROBLEM with Ice Cube being involved. I said he was doing it the wrong way at the wrong time. Someone asked when a better time would have been and I pointed out that literally any time in the previous 30 years would have been a better time to get started on it.



What is the average age for those who aren’t in politics directly.... politics is theater at its finest, and if you’re not directly in the play, you need leverage/influence to get your voice heard...... He could’ve spoke on it 10 years ago, but what difference does it make now vs then?
If he had done it 10 years ago, or even 10 months ago, he could have "improved" the legislation and helped everyone.

By throwing a public fit days before a general election, when the openly racist party is loving the spat, he's only carrying water for the side that doesn't want Black people to be able to vote at all. Literally nothing he says right now is going to have a positive impact before the presidential election, and it's literally impossible to pass HR 40 while the presidency and senate are still controlled by Republicans, so why make a public episode right now?




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I listed a half-dozen programs that are only applied to racial minorities and you responded by quoting from completely different programs that I wasn't even talking about. :mjlol:

And you didn't even touch that ignorant shyt you said about the elders in the 1960s. :gucci:
 

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:mindblown: Again is the expectation that we elect a president that will ONLY help black people?

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NO fukk nikka

WE EXPECT A BLACK PLAN
TO HELP ONLY BLACK PPL.

HE CAN HELP ALL THESE OTHER GROUPS WITH THEIR OWN PLANS.
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This is a topic that I wanted to be discussed on here for a while now. I would like a list of every group other than “black” and see what loans, packages, reparations, saves, opportunities, benefits and etc they have been getting since no one can do anything for a particular group. This will hurt a lot of feelings. Pick any president all the way to now.
 
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So if Coates has been vocally pushing HR 40 hard since 2014 when THERE WASN'T ANY SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC MOVEMENT FOR REPARATIONS AT ALL he's just "supporting a toothless deflection", but if #ADOS jumps on board to promote it five years later it's suddenly an accomplishment worth bragging about. :deadrose:

I guess if you shyt on Coates for pushing HR 40 as a first step then you're shytting on #ADOS too. :heh:

NO one individual in America has done as much as Ta-Nehisi Coates to make reparations a real discussion again. When he dropped his shyt in 2014 people like Clyburn and N'COBRA were being completely ignored by the mainstream. He made it pop nationally and actually got all these people talking who hadn't even been in the game. To talk shyt about the work he's put in is ignorant as fukk.


I am not sure why I am mentioned. But, I love Coates and a huge fan of a fellow Libra.

And I am extremely appreciative of his advocacy and bringing not only Reparations but HR40 to the mainstream again.

Even with his massive piece and advocacy for HR40 -- it didn't move nor gain much traction in terms of co-sponsors.

ADOS did indeed help and push this last time it was introduced to it's furthest. And I say that not to diss Mr. Coates -- or take away anything from him.
 

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And...I repeat. This isn't any of your business. So, what you think is mute.

If Black people want to advocate for themselves -- and themselves ONLY. Let us do that.
First of all, i'm black.

Second of all waiting on the perfect bill is a waste of time.

Even athletes know how to get points on foul shots.
 
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Local elected representatives.

You can call them. You can write them. You can email them. You can pull up on them in townhall/public forum. You can protest them. You can support PACs and lobby them.

The fact that you're asking me this as a grown man means you've never demanded tangibles for your own community as a "regular guy" in your life. More than likely a racist cac is speaking for you when denying reparations

You have no place to say that experts aren't doing enough when you aint doing shyt in regular guy measures.:camby:
yall not pro black, just sassy and lost.

Obviously top Federal level is implied(unless I misread)since we’re talking about the presidency... you typed a lot of shyt dealing with the local and state level... and :mjlol: at the the thought of mailing a state senator....again, you’re that fukking bright.....
 
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