Ice Cube fans... how do yall feel about him supporting the late Dr Khalid Muhammad?

[BlackDiBiase]

I'm glad he was actually about something at one point

Ice Cube is a great representation of black excellence, the transition from rapper to entrepreneur film writer and director.

all his comedies is some sh1t you can watch with the family, and it shows good strong black characters in good positions. Cube is a clever guy and even into his movies his dropping science for the youth to heed.

 

[OG Talk]

Completely agree with that, and didn't even vibe with that aspect f his music back then. The Hollywood and empty music shyt is a very different issue, which is I why I cited it specifically.

When it comes to black nationalism and kill whitey it's all just a gimmick to me. Cats jump on whatever might resonate and then abandon it to folow the next trend a year later. Same with love and righteousness and funny hats. Like my homie used to say, Common is just Jay-Z for nikkas who burn incense and like to give bytches massages with special oils.

As an adult I agree.. I didn't always, but came to the harsh realization after Common dissed Puff and Bad Boy for 3 years and then ended up becoming a Sean John model...

The business side trumps everything at the end of the day...All of my favorite rappers have sold out...


But I'm still gonna ignore most of it and focus on shyttin on Jay-Z and Kanye because it's my modern day version of doing prank calls... Few things in life give me more joy than the irrational and emotional reaction that their fanbase gives me...Even when they KNOW I'm trying to get under their skin, they still allow it to happen...

They feed into my subconscious Rush Limbaugh complex

 

[hex]

I felt the same about this as I did when I found out Cube was close friends with Red Hot Chilli Peppers. Didn't care as long as the music as hot.

If Cube could put out another "Death Certificate", I don't give a fukk who he associates with. I was more offended by "We Be Clubbin'" anyway.

Fred.

 

[Walt]

As an adult I agree.. I didn't always, but came to the harsh realization after Common dissed Puff and Bad Boy for 3 years and then ended up becoming a Sean John model...

The business side trumps everything at the end of the day...All of my favorite rappers have sold out...


But I'm still gonna ignore most of it and focus on shyttin on Jay-Z and Kanye because it's my modern day version of doing prank calls... Few things in life give me more joy than the irrational and emotional reaction that their fanbase gives me...Even when they KNOW I'm trying to get under their skin, they still allow it to happen...

They feed into my subconscious Rush Limbaugh complex

I'm truly laughing out loud, especially because I almost posted something to that general extent earlier in response to you. kanye is just the ultimate buffoon/bytch nikka to me though. I barely can pay attention to him. Nas is someone I can enjoy pointing out the absurdity of, strictly off how his rabid stans react. They provide the best and most outlandish stan comedy for me Jay and his stans are second, and also tragicomic.

Look, I unfortunately have been in circles with a fair number of these hip hop lames in NYC. I know things about so mnay of them that would make most people's skin crawl... but if the music is dope, I won't front on it. So Cube is always going to be a hip hop legend to me, even if I think he's a lame nikka.

 

[Bugsmoran]

I think master p sponsored one of khalid's bullshyt rallies in New York on some scoundrel marketing shyt. I was in Harlem that day, and walked by the rally before it was dispersed by police, and saw mad master p promo material circulating. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA That dude didn't give a fukk about the message, he saw his target audience gathering in one place and his eyes was looking like $ $

Rotfl

 

[Xtraz2]

@Walt

You coming off like another critic

Examining every move Cube makes under a microscope, forgetting he's a real human being and had to make a living, at tha end of tha day, survival of you and your children is tha priority

Lol "selling out", wut is this, 1992 all over again?


He's older his views have changed, Americas racial climate has changed, he got out tha hood and interacted with more people society and got to see tha world for wut it really is, it's not about black and white, and "sellin out", get out your box, travel tha world and see for yourself

Instead of sittin on your computer criticizing others for maturing

U want him still rappin "fukk tha whiteman"?

We be clubbin came out at a time when hip hop had shifted, it wuz Cubes way of maintaining relevance

Tha black revolutionary era is over, and tha books are closed, and Ice Cube will go down still as tha nikka you love to hate, tha one that stood up for wut he believed at tha time and felt it wuz imperative that his message get a across to tha masses, name your favorite rapper who made a song as lethal as "cave bytch" or as real as "when I get to heaven" and countless others, Cube is legendary for that alone

Tha way he still wuz able to make his way into Hollywood after that is nothing short of amazing, and has to be respected

 

[Walt]

@Walt

You coming off like another critic

Examining every move Cube makes under a microscope, forgetting he's a real human being and had to make a living, at tha end of tha day, survival of you and your children is tha priority

Lol "selling out", wut is this, 1992 all over again?


He's older his views have changed, Americas racial climate has changed, he got out tha hood and interacted with more people society and got to see tha world for wut it really is, it's not about black and white, and "sellin out", get out your box, travel tha world and see for yourself

Instead of sittin on your computer criticizing others for maturing

U want him still rappin "fukk tha whiteman"?

We be clubbin came out at a time when hip hop had shifted, it wuz Cubes way of maintaining relevance

Tha black revolutionary era is over, and tha books are closed, and Ice Cube will go down still as tha nikka you love to hate, tha one that stood up for wut he believed at tha time and felt it wuz imperative that his message get a across to tha masses, name your favorite rapper who made a song as lethal as "cave bytch" or as real as "when I get to heaven" and countless others, Cube is legendary for that alone

Tha way he still wuz able to make his way into Hollywood after that is nothing short of amazing, and has to be respected

Uncanny, you typed the exact sort of nonsensical response I specifically predicted to a T. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I don't know what to say. Anyone who can read what I posted an come away thinking I give a fukk about him rapping "fukk tha whiteman" is... not really worth another reply.

 

[LilJuicyTaco]

Here's a article that addresses Ice Cube and what some of the posters are speaking on -http://rappersexposed.hubpages.com/hub/Ice-Cube-Exposed

Yea, but honestly as much as a fan I am of Ice Cube, the NOI and Khalid Muhammed rebuked the dude to some extent because Ice Cube was playing both sides of the fence. he was trying to get down with the Nation on one side of his mouth and then promoting St. Ides malt liquor on the other side, which is odd because low key, malt liquor has been a huge bane on the black community as a whole, especially in the early 90's when we needed more healthy alternatives and revolutionaries to try to counteract the damage the crack era has done to the Black Community up to that point. Malt liquor and menthols were just tools to keep the Black man docile.

Great points.

His entire career is a "photo in the dictionary" type example. It's almost not worth rehashing the discussion because the fact that he told white people to kiss his ass and drop dead on a few albums has cemented him as such an icon to black hip hop fans that they will ignore the most basic definitions of "sellout" to justify whatever he does. when we don't like a person, we can see his faults and contradictions, and call shyt what it is. When we do, we start to talk about how complicated human existence is and how some people mature and change and that no one should be expected to be Jesus.

The nikka made True to The Game and Turn Off the Radio and ended up yayee yaying all over tacks talking about we be clubbin we be clubbin and you can do it put your ass into it. I'm sorry, that's fukking embarrassing. That's not maturity, that's not age, that's making a cynical, corny ass stab at a mindless pop record because it might make you some extra money. It's self-parody.

I won't even talk about some of his movies, I don't even feel like getting into it. I still love the albums of his I loved, but that's where it ends. This nikka is lame to me. The bottom line is we're talking about a man who took sometimes militant, always critical stances about specific institutions, took those stances in the public sphere, still purports to maintain some of those stances, has referred to himself as an activist... we're talking about this man completely falling into step with those institutions, going against all he professed to believe, and essentially becoming another cog in the mainstream.

Habits change with maturity. Principles don't change with maturity, if they're worthwhile, founded, and real -- they evolve and deepen. When those change... that's the definition of selling out.

Yes sir.

 

[Xtraz2]

I don't know what to say.

That says it all

 

[Bugsmoran]

@Walt


Tha black revolutionary era is over, and tha books are closed

ehhh... not really

when Cube came back in 2006 he was still bout it

"Flavor Flav wit a white b1tch? that is wack"

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

the black rev movement is gone in terms of the marketing appeal..but there are still acts (not major) who are still preaching.

 

[Xtraz2]

Here's a article that addresses Ice Cube and what some of the posters are speaking on -http://rappersexposed.hubpages.com/hub/Ice-Cube-Exposed.

that has to be some of tha dumbest shyt I've ever read

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

He spent most of his album shytting on white people and it didn't bother me as a white person so I really don't care who he associated with

I don't fully agree with @Walt but his post about Cube selling out isn't off base or wrong. I see it a little differently as far as letting go of anger and providing jobs for his family/friends but again, it can easily be looked at the other way.

 

[tirademode]

louis therouxs - wierd weekends black nationalism

Yeah that's the one . The scene with the Israelites was comedy . They're basically grilling this white English dude into admitting everyone in history from Shakespeare to Mozart was black.

 

[thaKEAF]

Yeah that's the one . The scene with the Israelites was comedy . They're basically grilling this white English dude into admitting everyone in history from Shakespeare to Mozart was black.

"SAY IT!"