Ice Cube Says Democrats Don’t Support Black Americans, Says “Nothing Has Changed” With Their Politics

[NYC Rebel]

if hes saying democrats are cowards, hes right. they virtue signal about POC issues and get my vote by default. i would love a better option.

But he’s not saying that. That’s you saying that. Ice cube doesn’t talk with the depth to address actual democratic policy matters and weighing them against Republicans.

It amazes me how we can see so many of the most racist laws being pushed across the country at this moment in time by the Republican Party, and THIS is the thing that gets traction….Ice Cube and his issues with the Dems.

 

[Won Won]

David the cac bushed for the 27th time, days after his 10th temp ban ended


Why do so many posters get so many chances?

 

[mobbinfms]

ATP I don't even think I should entertain you on this, but fukk it:

1. Prove it. I'm sure I would have heard of these movements, or there be stats that you Dem shills would tout if we stayed home en masse and it didn't work. We'd never be allowed to live it down.
2. It's not a quote, it's a concept.
3. This is a bullshyt and absurd hypothetical but I'll answer with: I will give that group the same amount of support they've given me.

1. I’ve repeated the two elections where this happened multiple times already. You’re advocating for black people not to vote in presidential elections. Black people overwhelmingly vote Democratic. So those lost votes would benefit Republicans. In 2000 it came down to FL where Gore lost by 500 votes. Nader was to the left of Gore and got nearly 100,000 votes in FL. With him out of the race, those votes would have gone to Gore and Bush would not be President. It’s the exact same thing.
2. Ok but it doesn’t apply here. I’m not saying that.
3. It is a bullshyt and absurd hypothetical, yet you are pretending like you wouldn’t vote for the candidate opposing the genocide candidate. Stop fronting.

 

[TripleAgent]

1. I’ve repeated the two elections where this happened multiple times already. You’re advocating for black people not to vote in presidential elections. Black people overwhelmingly vote Democratic. So those lost votes would benefit Republicans. In 2000 it came down to FL where Gore lost by 500 votes. Nader was to the left of Gore and got nearly 100,000 votes in FL. With him out of the race, those votes would have gone to Gore and Bush would not be President. It’s the exact same thing.
2. Ok but it doesn’t apply here. I’m not saying that.
3. It is a bullshyt and absurd hypothetical, yet you are pretending like you wouldn’t vote for the candidate opposing the genocide candidate. Stop fronting.

1. You're talking voter apathy, or whatever, I'm talking organized withholding in protest
2. It's coming off exactly like that.
3. I said what I said.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Again I disagree, funny you said , "Civil Rights" all those pols holding on to Jim Crow and trying to deter the Civil Rights movement in the 60s were Democrats. Their ideologies change with the weather. Or whatever they think will get them elected. It's not "rooted" in anything and is far from "principled".

All those folks? That's not historically true at all. Opposition was mixed.

In 1948, when Democratic president Harry Truman ordered the desegregation of the military, many segregationists felt the Democrats had left them behind. Southern governors met together and said that if the Democrats doubled down, they would form their own party. In 1948, the Democrats chose to pick Truman to run another term and adopted a platform by liberal Hubert Humphrey (future vice president to LBJ and 1968 presidential candidate), that called for civil rights.

As a result, racist southern Democrats left the party en masse and formed their own party, the "Dixiecrats". They chose Strom Thurmond as their candidate on an officially segregationist platform and he won 4 deep south states during the presidential election in an attept to spoil the vote.

After the election the party collapsed and the coalition broke up, but for the rest of the Civil Rights movement, opponents of Civil Rights were pretty much split between Democrats and Republicans. The Republican candidate for president in 1964, Barry Goldwater, officially opposed the Civil Rights Act because he said it was "unconstitutional" to force private persons to accept Black employees and customers in their businesses. Meanwhile, the Democratic presidents JFK and LBJ had been strongly in favor of it. When the Voting Rights Act was voted on in 1965, House Democrats agreed to it 221–61, while Republicans agreed 112–24. Senate opposition was entirely in the South, which was mostly held by Democrats at the time, but those states all pretty much switched to voting for the Republican candidate (Nixon) in 1968 out of protest to Democrats supporting civil rights.

Strom Thurmond himself officially joined the Republican Party in 1964 and served as a senator for them for forty years.

 

[Dave24]

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[mobbinfms]

1. You're talking voter apathy, or whatever, I'm talking organized withholding in protest
2. It's coming off exactly like that.
3. I said what I said.

End result is the same.
Can’t speak to how it’s coming off to you. From my end, it’s not happening.
You said you would support genocide.

 

[Dave24]

The common person in the US doesn't have freedom though. The reality is as long as you're an able bodied worker you're all set with some limited options but you're just a health crisis away from catastrophe unless you're a part of the capitalist class that doesn't need to work. Most people in this country I'm not gonna call them slaves but they're maybe a couple rungs up the ladder from that. They spend the majority of their time either sleep or working to enrich someone else. They get a couple days at the end of the week and a few hours in the evening to do what they can within limits and that's it.

@Magic Mulatto damn

 

[Dave24]

nikka you live with you mama. I don’t want to hear shyt from you about decision making.

I live with my mom as well. Also @Magic Mulatto does too.

 

[Magic Mulatto]

@Magic Mulatto damn

I live with my mom as well. Also @Magic Mulatto does too.

These nikkas makin’ my depression worse!

 

[The Dust King]

I disagree, it doesn't effect me in any meaningful way. Just like when Ukraine became independent it didn't effect me.
Again I disagree, funny you said , "Civil Rights" all those pols holding on to Jim Crow and trying to deter the Civil Rights movement in the 60s were Democrats. Their ideologies change with the weather. Or whatever they think will get them elected. It's not "rooted" in anything and is far from "principled".

1. you ignored the definition of geopolitics and destabilization

2. you told me to live in the now yet bring up polls of wat dems did in 1960

3. ignored the dapping of nazis

4. claims dems are wish washy and repubs arent?

5. also ideaologies do change but have been mostly consistent on the left and the right for the last decade

6. you mentioned your big blue state but i almost feel as if you were just being a follower because you seem to be regurgitating propaganda from the right

 

[Rekkapryde]

Why?
State and municpal elections are completely separate from federal elections. Why do you have to support one in both are arena?

Why couldn't you support the one that aligns with what you prefer at each level?

You crazy to think state/municipal Rethugs are no different than the federal ones.

look at Roe vs Wade being shot down. I refuse to give Republicans the benefit of the doubt. REFUSE. fukk dem and their blatant and coded cism.

 

[NYC Rebel]

1. you ignored the definition of geopolitics and destabilization

2. you told me to live in the now yet bring up polls of wat dems did in 1960

3. ignored the dapping of nazis

4. claims dems are wish washy and repubs arent?

5. also ideaologies do change but have been mostly consistent on the left and the right for the last decade

6. you mentioned your big blue state but i almost feel as if you were just being a follower because you seem to be regurgitating propaganda from the right

Good luck with finding consistency with an answer.

 

[MoneyTron]

You crazy to think state/municipal Rethugs are no different than the federal ones.

look at Roe vs Wade being shot down. I refuse to give Republicans the benefit of the doubt. REFUSE. fukk dem and their blatant and coded cism.

They follow the same exact views and much of the time are more radical because they only serve a very narrow constutiency.

The less people you represent, the crazier you can be. This is why the House is far wilder than the Senate, and why state and city politics are filled with nutjobs who are loud and brazen(and that's party agnostic, Seattle's city council for example, is extremely left-leaning and often batshyt )

 

[NYC Rebel]

Republicans literally voted to end Biden’s loan forgiveness program yesterday which heavily impacts the Black community who is saddled with more student loan debt than any group yet its on Dems to show they arent as bad.