Ice Cube Vs Prodigy

[The Ruler 09]

you got nikkas ranked in your top 5 for a whole bunch of random reasons,it appears as if you are just making up random reasons to justify why you like one ahead of the other verses consistency imo,to where I could look at your top 5 and know what you value over everything else...based off your top 5 if I was just looking at it I would assume its based on concepts,content....but then you throw Cube to the bushes over Prodigy and im...I respect everybodys personal opinion and that's really all that matters at the end of the day....but I think when it comes to all time rankings you need some historical backing behind putting just any ol body over cube....and success plays apart in that to me,aint a single all time GREAT I can think of that's as unknown as K Rino...and knowledge doesn't mean bias doesn't play apart as well as personal taste....so at the end of the day it comes back to the same thing,its still just your opinion....without historical backing,individual accolades and feathers in the hat I think the opinion lacks credibility....you should value your opinion more than everybody elses but the rest of us should reject your deposit and let you know "?"

Oh dear, your reaching so badly lol. That wasn't my reasons, that was a quick few points. You guys act too much like children, makes reasonable discussion very challenging lol. I'm a patient man though so can humour you lol. I've said my reasons, OVERALL, and body of work, it's VERY simple, but can keep playing semantics if you like lol.

Throw Cube to the bushes? Lol. Bit of an exaggeration, I haven't said Cube is wack, but I think P is a better MC. You don't need historical backing, you need knowledge. Your criteria is different from mine, cool, you have your list and I have mine and keep it moving lol.

I don't have bias though, bias for what? Personal taste may play a part. But it does with EVERYONE. But like I said my list is the people I believe have the best body of works so far, not my favourites, or the list would be different. Sometimes they are one in the same though. Course it's my opinion, no-one has to agree with me, but in reality someone with my knowledge my opinion shouldn't be dissed, it should be respected even if disagreed with, but I don't mind if it is cause some people are immature so it's all good lol, I just know there's a bunch of people I respect highly who I disagree with. But their opinion is valuable, example is Kool Moe Dee. My opinion doesn't lack any credibility, it is completely credible. People bring up K-Rino cause it's the easy option cause he isn't as known as others. I didn't even bring up K-Rino here. Others keep bringing up the same shyt lol. Take K-Rino out of the equation then what?. Lol I have no concerns for what anyone thinks of MY opinion lol, I really can't stress how little I care about that lol. I say it for me, not for anyone else lol.

 

[H.I.M.]

2pac,Too Short,any other bay area legend just about,UGK,Snoop,Master P,8ball,Young Jeezy,Baby,Kendrick Lamar,Juelz santanna,basically all the real nikkas....your turn,what rap legends asking K rino to feature on they shyt?...anybody I know?anybody outside of texas?since you wanna go and downplay the gawd all willy nilly

I ask somebody to list off rap "legends" or rappers that are highly respected in the industry who name E-40 as either an influence or rate him as one of the greatest lyricists of all time (such as i can find with K-Rino) and you post a bunch of rappers who he had features with?



Insane Clown Posse has a feature with Cube & Face on the same song. I guess ICP is an influence on Cube & Face huh?

Again, can you or anybody else name one several highly respected rappers that list E-40 as a direct influence or rate his lyrical ability among the greats?

Because i can find you several "legends" in the game who rate K-Rino among the elite of the elites lyrically and listed him as a DIRECT influence. And it would only take me a couple of mins to post em up.

Can you do the same with E-40?

 

[Nomad1]

nikkas naming HOE and the Infamous

It's Prodigy vs Cube not Mobb Sleep vs Cube

 

[Still Benefited]

K-Rino worked with Spice 1, Z-Ro, Scarface, DJ Premier, Canibus, Gangster N.I.P, Dope E. You don't know Z-Ro? Immortal Technique and K-Rino spoke about doing a song together, don't know if it happened or not yet. Willie D, Klondike Kat, Killiah Priest, Wise Intelligent, Beast 1333, DJ Screw, Devin The Dude, Trae The Truth, Bun B, OG Style, A bunch of people.

Not to mention for Farrahkhan.... you must of heard of him?

half them nikkas is either from texas...or the word legend is being used loosely? We really wanna compare that with the list of people E-40 has worked with? the accolades of 40? classic records?you must admit the poster I addressed got ahead of himself

 

[The Ruler 09]

half them nikkas is either from texas...or the word legend is being used loosely? We really wanna compare that with the list of people E-40 has worked with? the accolades of 40? classic records?you must admit the poster I addressed got ahead of himself

I wasn't comparing E-40, I quite like E-40. But I was just saying K-Rino's worked with people you probably have heard of, or should have.

 

[The Ruler 09]

I ask somebody to list off rap "legends" or rappers that are highly respected in the industry who name E-40 as either an influence or rate him as one of the greatest lyricists of all time (such as i can find with K-Rino) and you post a bunch of rappers who he had features with?



Insane Clown Posse has a feature with Cube & Face on the same song. I guess ICP is an influence on Cube & Face huh?

Again, can you or anybody else name one several highly respected rappers that list E-40 as a direct influence or rate his lyrical ability among the greats?

Because i can find you several "legends" in the game who rate K-Rino among the elite of the elites lyrically and listed him as a DIRECT influence. And it would only take me a couple of mins to post em up.

Can you do the same with E-40?

Post some up anyway if you get time lol.

 

[H.I.M.]

Bun-B: "I was barely a B.G. in the game when this man got on the mic, and this is one of the brothers that inspired me to do what i do today... in my humble opinion, the greatest battle rapper ever... (K-Rino) is my O.G."... @ 10:30



Scarface on K-Rino's lyrical prowess:

DX: You gonna have Eminem put some verses to them beats?
Scarface: Hell nah! [Laughs] I’m not fin to go in there fukkin’ with that white boy, man. [Laughs]

DX: You’re not gonna make the “Renegade”

mistake.
Scarface: Hell nah! What the fukk you mean, go in there fukkin’ with him, for what? [Laughs] But I guess that’s how I feel about – I guess that’s how a lot of rappers feel about this kid from out here named K-Rino.

DX: I heard you biggin’ him up again on Dopeman Music, on like one of the skits.
Scarface: Yeah like, you just don’t – It’s two people in music that you just don’t fukk with, there are two people in Rap that I just don’t fukk with: I’m not fukkin’ with Eminem, and I’m not fukkin’ with K-Rino. I invited K-Rino to do a verse on my album because a lot of people don’t wanna fukk with him, ‘cause he’s a dangerous muthafukka… I think he really took it light on me too.

DX: That’s saying something, that’s a hell of an endorsement to say that he’s got you when it comes to the H-Town hierarchy.
Scarface: Man, that muthafukka is the truth.

DX: I don’t know why it never happened for him…
Scarface: I think that it had a lot to do with…the way he felt about being affiliated with a major, or an indie-major… I don’t think he wanted to be a part of that fukkin’ machine. He didn’t wanna be…on that ship, that slave ship.

Scarface: For The First Time | Rappers Talk Hip Hop Beef & Old School Hip Hop | HipHop DX


Z-Ro on his influences in rap: "my only influence in rap is a man by the name of K-Rino... the hardest nikka in rap PERIOD"...

@0:20


Canibus: "K-Rino made me write" @ 0:53 in the above video

 

[The Ruler 09]

I ask somebody to list off rap "legends" or rappers that are highly respected in the industry who name E-40 as either an influence or rate him as one of the greatest lyricists of all time (such as i can find with K-Rino) and you post a bunch of rappers who he had features with?



Insane Clown Posse has a feature with Cube & Face on the same song. I guess ICP is an influence on Cube & Face huh?

Again, can you or anybody else name one several highly respected rappers that list E-40 as a direct influence or rate his lyrical ability among the greats?

Because i can find you several "legends" in the game who rate K-Rino among the elite of the elites lyrically and listed him as a DIRECT influence. And it would only take me a couple of mins to post em up.

Can you do the same with E-40?

I remember there was a list of top 25 list. And Killer Mike also said he would have named K-Rino in his.

 

[Still Benefited]

I ask somebody to list off rap "legends" or rappers that are highly respected in the industry who name E-40 as either an influence or rate him as one of the greatest lyricists of all time (such as i can find with K-Rino) and you post a bunch of rappers who he had features with?



Insane Clown Posse has a feature with Cube & Face on the same song. I guess ICP is an influence on Cube & Face huh?

Again, can you or anybody else name one several highly respected rappers that list E-40 as a direct influence or rate his lyrical ability among the greats?

Because i can find you several "legends" in the game who rate K-Rino among the elite of the elites lyrically and listed him as a DIRECT influence. And it would only take me a couple of mins to post em up.

Can you do the same with E-40?

Has Face or Cube ever asked ICP to be on they album or was they collectin a check?i think if nikkas work with you multiple times and you not just a hot name it counts for sumthing... I named nikkas who worked w/ 40 multiple times,had relationships with the bay,juelz said on rap city 40 was a influence and told him to his face,Kendrick has made multiple references,Jeezy has given 40 props and even put B La in his top 5 before,Baby as well has talked about being a 40 fan,Future too btw...Pac being the biggest rapper on the planet and going out of his way to call you King of the Bay over Too Short when he has nuthing to gain says sumthing and probaly trumps anything you about to say....now once again I ask,any LEGENDS outside of Texas you wanna rattle off for me?

 

[The Ruler 09]

Bun-B: "I was barely a B.G. in the game when this man got on the mic, and this is one of the brothers that inspired me to do what i do today... in my humble opinion, the greatest battle rapper ever... (K-Rino) is my O.G."... @ 10:30



Scarface on K-Rino's lyrical prowess:

DX: You gonna have Eminem put some verses to them beats?
Scarface: Hell nah! [Laughs] I’m not fin to go in there fukkin’ with that white boy, man. [Laughs]

DX: You’re not gonna make the “Renegade”

mistake.
Scarface: Hell nah! What the fukk you mean, go in there fukkin’ with him, for what? [Laughs] But I guess that’s how I feel about – I guess that’s how a lot of rappers feel about this kid from out here named K-Rino.

DX: I heard you biggin’ him up again on Dopeman Music, on like one of the skits.
Scarface: Yeah like, you just don’t – It’s two people in music that you just don’t fukk with, there are two people in Rap that I just don’t fukk with: I’m not fukkin’ with Eminem, and I’m not fukkin’ with K-Rino. I invited K-Rino to do a verse on my album because a lot of people don’t wanna fukk with him, ‘cause he’s a dangerous muthafukka… I think he really took it light on me too.

DX: That’s saying something, that’s a hell of an endorsement to say that he’s got you when it comes to the H-Town hierarchy.
Scarface: Man, that muthafukka is the truth.

DX: I don’t know why it never happened for him…
Scarface: I think that it had a lot to do with…the way he felt about being affiliated with a major, or an indie-major… I don’t think he wanted to be a part of that fukkin’ machine. He didn’t wanna be…on that ship, that slave ship.

Scarface: For The First Time | Rappers Talk Hip Hop Beef & Old School Hip Hop | HipHop DX


Z-Ro on his influences in rap: "my only influence in rap is a man by the name of K-Rino... the hardest nikka in rap PERIOD"...

@0:20


Canibus: "K-Rino made me write" @ 0:53 in the above video

I haven't seen that video, props, am gonna watch.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Has Face or Cube ever asked ICP to be on they album or was they collectin a check?i think if nikkas work with you multiple times and you not just a hot name it counts for sumthing... I named nikkas who worked w/ 40 multiple times,had relationships with the bay,juelz said on rap city 40 was a influence and told him to his face,Kendrick has made multiple references,Jeezy has given 40 props and even put B La in his top 5 before,Baby as well has talked about being a 40 fan,Future too btw...Pac being the biggest rapper on the planet and going out of his way to call you King of the Bay over Too Short when he has nuthing to gain says sumthing and probaly trumps anything you about to say....now once again I ask,any LEGENDS outside of Texas you wanna rattle off for me?

E-40 is G'd up though, don't forget that lol. Or act like that isn't a contributing factor lol, seems like a cool brother to me too though.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Bun-B: "I was barely a B.G. in the game when this man got on the mic, and this is one of the brothers that inspired me to do what i do today... in my humble opinion, the greatest battle rapper ever... (K-Rino) is my O.G."... @ 10:30



Scarface on K-Rino's lyrical prowess:

DX: You gonna have Eminem put some verses to them beats?
Scarface: Hell nah! [Laughs] I’m not fin to go in there fukkin’ with that white boy, man. [Laughs]

DX: You’re not gonna make the “Renegade”

mistake.
Scarface: Hell nah! What the fukk you mean, go in there fukkin’ with him, for what? [Laughs] But I guess that’s how I feel about – I guess that’s how a lot of rappers feel about this kid from out here named K-Rino.

DX: I heard you biggin’ him up again on Dopeman Music, on like one of the skits.
Scarface: Yeah like, you just don’t – It’s two people in music that you just don’t fukk with, there are two people in Rap that I just don’t fukk with: I’m not fukkin’ with Eminem, and I’m not fukkin’ with K-Rino. I invited K-Rino to do a verse on my album because a lot of people don’t wanna fukk with him, ‘cause he’s a dangerous muthafukka… I think he really took it light on me too.

DX: That’s saying something, that’s a hell of an endorsement to say that he’s got you when it comes to the H-Town hierarchy.
Scarface: Man, that muthafukka is the truth.

DX: I don’t know why it never happened for him…
Scarface: I think that it had a lot to do with…the way he felt about being affiliated with a major, or an indie-major… I don’t think he wanted to be a part of that fukkin’ machine. He didn’t wanna be…on that ship, that slave ship.

Scarface: For The First Time | Rappers Talk Hip Hop Beef & Old School Hip Hop | HipHop DX


Z-Ro on his influences in rap: "my only influence in rap is a man by the name of K-Rino... the hardest nikka in rap PERIOD"...

@0:20


Canibus: "K-Rino made me write" @ 0:53 in the above video

I think the whole shyt about people being scared to fukk with him on a track true too. I think it's the same with some of these uber fans, get intimated cause K-Rino is THAT good so try a different approach to diss.

 

[Axum Ezana]

That's just not true and unrealistic. D.O.C isn't as big as he should be, was that cause of a lack of talent? No, he had a car accident, shyt like that happens all the time. Big L got murdered. Big Pun died before his 3rd album. What if Pun died after he recorded Capital Punishment then the label shelved him before release? Would that make him not effective. No, he would be effective because his shyt was dope. Whether or not people heard him or not. Like someone said recently, K-Rino had a nationwide tour when he was 16, Willie D put him on tracks, Scarface always rated him as one of the best. DJ Premier rates him highly. So he clearly has talent people who know their shyt feel. Talent is not the problem. Is Last Emperor also not talented then? Because he's under the radar? Despite the plaudits, from KRS, Mos Def, RZA and others. Is Rakim not talented cause Dre situation didn't work out? This isn't reality. Sometimes shyt doesn't work out for reasons not to do with talent. Many labels copy, anyone familiar with labels knows what I'm talking about, an act comes out and they want to copy that act with their future acts... yeahhh we need a song like 50... but I believe in black power like Public Enemy.... make me an In The Club or Wanksta or your not coming out. That happens all the time in the industry. I'm extremely familiar with how the industry operates. These are the truth. Infact labels used to put out what they wanted from solicited demos, and they would often start with, an artist like Eminem, in the vein of 50 Cent, these are facts. I know artists who have been signed to all types of labels, from Def Jam to Sony to indies.



K-Rino is a member of the Nation of Islam and is down with Farrakhan for real, they know eachother on a personal level. He would not denounce Farrakhan, nor would he change his content or relquinish his creative control. K-Rino had labels fukk him over too. Ras Kass was a talent, apparently in Dre's top 5. But a mixture of attitude, the car crash, alcoholism , labels and other shyt were partly to blame for him not blowing up how he should. Papoose and Saigon would have blew hugely bar the label issues, they were the next up. There are many many more factors than just talent, these are the truths. Anyone who's familiar with the industry for real will know what I'm talking about deeply.

I'm talking about music, your talking about sales... until higher selling artists than Cube that are wack are mentioned then your not talking about sales anymore. Impact and music's quality are two completely different things, which can be synomomous but aren't necessarily mutally exclusive. Exactly, everyone's entitled to their opinion, but the valid ones are those with a full knowledge of both work, or you have no reference point to compare and it's meaningless talk.

powerful and insightful video...thanks man.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Bun-B: "I was barely a B.G. in the game when this man got on the mic, and this is one of the brothers that inspired me to do what i do today... in my humble opinion, the greatest battle rapper ever... (K-Rino) is my O.G."... @ 10:30



Scarface on K-Rino's lyrical prowess:

DX: You gonna have Eminem put some verses to them beats?
Scarface: Hell nah! [Laughs] I’m not fin to go in there fukkin’ with that white boy, man. [Laughs]

DX: You’re not gonna make the “Renegade”

mistake.
Scarface: Hell nah! What the fukk you mean, go in there fukkin’ with him, for what? [Laughs] But I guess that’s how I feel about – I guess that’s how a lot of rappers feel about this kid from out here named K-Rino.

DX: I heard you biggin’ him up again on Dopeman Music, on like one of the skits.
Scarface: Yeah like, you just don’t – It’s two people in music that you just don’t fukk with, there are two people in Rap that I just don’t fukk with: I’m not fukkin’ with Eminem, and I’m not fukkin’ with K-Rino. I invited K-Rino to do a verse on my album because a lot of people don’t wanna fukk with him, ‘cause he’s a dangerous muthafukka… I think he really took it light on me too.

DX: That’s saying something, that’s a hell of an endorsement to say that he’s got you when it comes to the H-Town hierarchy.
Scarface: Man, that muthafukka is the truth.

DX: I don’t know why it never happened for him…
Scarface: I think that it had a lot to do with…the way he felt about being affiliated with a major, or an indie-major… I don’t think he wanted to be a part of that fukkin’ machine. He didn’t wanna be…on that ship, that slave ship.

Scarface: For The First Time | Rappers Talk Hip Hop Beef & Old School Hip Hop | HipHop DX


Z-Ro on his influences in rap: "my only influence in rap is a man by the name of K-Rino... the hardest nikka in rap PERIOD"...

@0:20


Canibus: "K-Rino made me write" @ 0:53 in the above video

And that's EXACTLY what I was saying earlier about the whole label thing, I know for a fact that's true, that's just more documented proof. K is not a sell out he's very firm and strong in his beliefs, no matter what.

 

[The Ruler 09]

powerful and insightful video...thanks man.

No worries man, yeah Wise is an intelligent brother, I like hearing him talk, he cares for real. And puts his actions where his mouth is, for Native Amercian rights, for of course black people, for Hip Hop... He's a genuine activist. Always enjoy his music too, from back in the day till now.