intilectual recipricol
Killin fake hip hop
You know how I know this cat @The Ruler 09 was fraudulent? If you look at the way this fool spells "favorite" (favourite)... where you from loc, you may have an excuse for all your wackness 
Ice Cube Vs Prodigy
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You know how I know this cat @The Ruler 09 was fraudulent? If you look at the way this fool spells "favorite" (favourite)... where you from loc, you may have an excuse for all your wackness
Damn, lucky I'm a grown up or your stalking would be scary lol. Now your talking about my spelling lmao. From a guy who's called inTILectual recipricol LMAO. Isn't there some Nas threads you need to be making? Lol. Stop jumping on dikks like that's your hobby, go see a bytch... no looking in the mirror does NOT count. You can carry on your bullshyt if you want but it's so boring now, it was cool to humiliate and embarrass you for a while, but it isn't even fun anymore lol. It's just a standard thing now that everyone does to you so the novelty has worn off lol. I might not even read your bullshyt anymore as it's getting very tiresome.
intilectual recipricol
Killin fake hip hop
nice dodge, loc. Where you from?
So when you talk to these "heads" and they don't talk about Cube its normal,but when nobody mentions Prodigys azz its due to lack of great discussion...content wise Pac never covered the range of topics in depth the way Cube did....I already said why he's better than Chuck D,and same goes for KRS....and KRS came out first how could he look up to Cube?dont mean he aint respect em...he wasn't as quick to jump off that ledge as he was wit MC Shan and Nelly when Cube said "Self Destruction don't pay the fukkin rent",you got a subliminal not a full diss record back
Prodigy is a snooze fest for me to listen too,how you can listen to somebody lay down powerful words and really say profound shyt like Cube over the course of his run and say you would rather hear Prodigy is just beyond my scope...How can you compare a nikka who if he never existed the entire scope of rap as you know it wouldn't be the same with Prodigy who if he never existed it wouldn't even matter outside of Mobb Deep fans in the grand scheme...talking about Cube got by on flow and aggression
.....do those things not make you a great emcee too if done right?does content and what you are actually rapping ABOUT not make you a better emcee? As an emcee Cube is much more important in every regard,from what he's saying,too his impact....I don't care who you say he was a mouthpiece for,his inspiration was his inspiration.....his music is the soundtrack to the thought process of much of black America at the time,he captured it in a time capsule with his lyrics as an emcee....you gon compare that with Prodigy making some shyt relateable to queens
...id rather hear what Cube got to say and I like how he says it over what prodigy has to say and how he says it....theres no contest
U can keep trying to ignore impact as if it doesnt matter when it does for the period we are discussing....im all for personal preference,but lets not make it like this is really a legit discussion in terms of whos greater than who....they not in the same realm in terms of respect...id even to say people love and respect Jadakiss more than prodigy nationwide,prodigy local
...and yes fans of east coast rap are EVERYWHERE but that don't make you not local imo,just means nikkas who like east coast rap but don't live on the east coast like you
..Jada is luved by all unlike P...keep prodigy in that tier,and oh yeah
Jada is the shyt. But he don't got any classics, let alone a seminal album like the Infamous. Cube definitely wins the impact argument - but you are sorely downplaying Mobb Deep's impact during their run. They were the face of grimy NY hip hop from 95-99 and they had Gangstarr levels of respect and integrity during that time. As hip hop was going to shyt - they stayed true to their music. And they personified dirty grimy street hip hop like no one else in NY (probably the country) during their run. Mobb was not local. Yes they debuted (for the second time) at a time when hip hop was regional but even then they were felt nationwide. Like you said - that boom bap sound extends beyond the East Coast. And in 99 they went plat with Murda Muzik and the Quiet Storm remix was huge. Hip hop was far less regional at that point. Plus that album recently went double plat which means it probably sold at least 1.5 mil during its run.
Also - have you actually heard Mobb's music?
Grand_Verbalizer
All Star
this thread is played the fukk out but for the record I love the Infamous own it and have played it countless times.
what i said is an exaggeration but there still is a huge gap between the topics covered by both artists
There are plenty of classic verses that aren't about anything in particular. One that comes to mind is Deck's verse on triumph. And that's not what prolific means. The standard for a crazy verse isn't whether something of social importance is discussed - so we shouldn't use that standard now because we are comparing Cube and P.
Fair enough. I'm slowly making my way through the thread, I know it's probably already run it's course.
I can understand your insistence on technical wizardry if an emcee only spits street shyt, but that's not a rule that I follow. I always appreciate it when rappers try to tackle topics of social importance, but I'd rather an emcee do what they do best.
What you said about the Cube line is probably the most ridiculous thing I've seen in this thread.
First, not to nitpick, the Cube line isn't even a metaphor.
Second, @ISOMELO gave you a few examples of actual metaphors/similes from Apostles Warning. When he compares his rhyming to deadly weed - over the course of several lines - that is an actual metaphor, a clever one of that. He's saying to take a toke of him, the vocalist, that when you do his rhyme prowess will overpower you and burn a hole in your brain allowing the venom to soak in, causing convulsions and sweating to set in.
Third - DRINK AWAY THE PAIN
It's not just preference. P has classic work to back him up.Prodigy looked up to Nas becuz he is a lil nikka compared to Nas and I don't mean height wise I mean in terms of stature and respect....KRS wasn't on a lower todem pole in comparison to Cube when it come to that so how could he look up to em?at most there could only be a mutual respect....if you look up to sumbody its either because they came before you and you respect them as a og or simply becuz you know you not on they level...At least Prodigy knows his place.
Far as KrS destroying Cube?im not saying its impossible im saying don't be so damn cocky in this assumption when talking about the author of No Vaseline which YOU may not like but its in the top 5 of damn near every diss record ranking list I ever seen and most hiphop fans place it that highly....lemme guess you like Drop a Gem on em better
you don't mind my preference and I don't mind yours....as long as you know this is nothing more than a preference and you have no legs to stand on when actually comparing they all time greatness OTHER THAN your preference its all good....I know all about preferences,I like Stack Bundles more than Biggie but I know theres no historical proof backing me up as to why he's better than Biggie or should be in the same discussion outside of my personal preference
Awesome Wells
The Ghost of Jack Tripper
The Infamous is one of my favorite albums of all-time. Always has been. That was easily P at his very best.
But Cube's first two albums, and these joints dropped over 20 years ago, will forever have that dude way above most MC's, in my book. You can try, but you won't find many cats that have had two joints that could touch Amerikkka's Most Wanted and Death Certificate. Cube was ridiculous back then, and made records that cats are scared to make today.
But Cube's first two albums, and these joints dropped over 20 years ago, will forever have that dude way above most MC's, in my book. You can try, but you won't find many cats that have had two joints that could touch Amerikkka's Most Wanted and Death Certificate. Cube was ridiculous back then, and made records that cats are scared to make today.
Plies??Right,but Cube came after KRS and listened to him before he got on,looking up to him as an og is not unlikely....you used that fact is if Cube was a little nikka in comparison....I was forced to point out Cube had no problem speaking his mind and KRS didn't pull out one of those prewritten disses he writes every year to end Cube so there must have been mutual respect there...og's cant LOOK UP to nikkas that came after them unless they bums and need the work
And did you here no Vaseline?dude introduced plenty of concepts and "levels"....but neither one decided to prove it either way so what woulda shoulda happened don't matter,but my money on Cube
I got e40 in my top 3 all time,but when we talking about definitive top 5's around here sure I could say "E40 better than Jay and Nas" but since history does not back me up on that statement im just a nikka disrupting the convo in a non constructive way,like u with that K Rino shyt
Plies is better than Prodigy is prolific posting????
Are you saying that's a bad metaphor? Any great line is gonna sound wack with a shytty flow or delivery. Without that it's just words on a page.
He didn't say Plies was better he said he LIKED Plies better. His point was just because you prefer a rapper does not make them better