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The more the merrier bro. I would like to see a truly fractured electorate besides the old GOP vs DEM shyt, regardless who wins. I think it will serve as an example to Americans that we CAN have more than 2 viable alternatives. Having independent and third party candidates that have name recognition, grassroots movements and ability to gain traction is what we need.
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So, F-ck him for keeping his word? :what:

He can keep his word, but he should never have made that promise in the first place. Is that hard to understand? He ran as an independent before.

Why have loyalty to a party and system actively undercutting your chances?

The American people need viable alternatives to DEM and GOP. This is more important than Bernie Sanders or the Democrats.
 

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If he was a man of principle and ideals, he wouldn't give a fukk about the Dems, especially in regards of how he is being treated by them during the primaries.
A man of principle is not the same thing as being an ideologue. Sanders is not an ideologue, you are and it's why you call anyone who disagrees with you a sellout. Funny how the guy you hated (me) for the past 4 years for no reason at all seems to be one of the only ones representing the left while almost all your "allies" are riding with Clinton.

A man of principle would follow his own advice when he said that she is better than any Republican. A man of principle would recognize that if a Republican gets nominated that we would likely shift back to a Republican court if someone like Ginsburg cannot make it. A man of principle would recognize that the environmental policies that he is advocating were pushed through by Obama and are being held up in court but a Republican would roll them all back. A man of principle would recognize that a Republican would seek to eliminate the ACA, which is still better than the alternative. I can go on and on. Being someone of principle is different than being an obstinate curmudgeon. He could choose your route but he is no hypocrite if he doesn't.
 

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The more the merrier bro. I would like to see a truly fractured electorate besides the old GOP vs DEM shyt, regardless who wins. I think it will serve as an example to Americans that we CAN have more than 2 viable alternatives. Having independent and third party candidates that have name recognition, grassroots movements and ability to gain traction is what we need.
This will happen sooner than people think. Largely due to the impact of social media and the ease with which political ideologies can be spread via the Internet. The next presidential election after this new presidents term will be have a legit third party candidate and possibly more, I think.

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A man of principle would follow his own advice when he said that she is better than any Republican. A man of principle would recognize that if a Republican gets nominated that we would likely shift back to a Republican court if someone like Ginsburg cannot make it. A man of principle would recognize that the environmental policies that he is advocating were pushed through by Obama and are being held up in court but a Republican would roll them all back. A man of principle would recognize that a Republican would seek to eliminate the ACA, which is still better than the alternative. I can go on and on. Being someone of principle is different than being an obstinate curmudgeon. He could choose your route but he is no hypocrite if he doesn't.
Is this why all his principled followers (atleast on here) prefer to vote third party and allow trump to win the presidency rather than the devil Hillary :sas1:

Let's hope his cult is as principled as he is when it's time to decide how the next 20 years of the country will flow in November. :sas2:

Edit 2: @Darth Humanist can I still keep the dap after my first edit :pachaha:
 
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Is Donald Trump really self-funding his presidential campaign?

He for sure contributes the most to his campaign but he's not the only one. It's one of his big positives but my problem is unlike Bernie he's not going to do anything about money influencing politics he's just doing it to trick people into voting for him.

70% is a lot these days for a Democrat or Republican. It's almost unheard of now. Again, I'm not advocating Trump to win, I'm saying he's better than Rubio or Cruz, as crazy as that sounds.
 

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He can keep his word, but he should never have made that promise in the first place. Is that hard to understand? He ran as an independent before.

Why have loyalty to a party and system actively undercutting your chances?

The American people need viable alternatives to DEM and GOP. This is more important than Bernie Sanders or the Democrats.
True, however that video was old so :manny:
 

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A man of principle is not the same thing as being an ideologue. Sanders is not an ideologue, you are and it's why you call anyone who disagrees with you a sellout. Funny how the guy you hated (me) for the past 4 years for no reason at all seems to be one of the only ones representing the left while almost all your "allies" are riding with Clinton.

A man of principle would follow his own advice when he said that she is better than any Republican. A man of principle would recognize that if a Republican gets nominated that we would likely shift back to a Republican court if someone like Ginsburg cannot make it. A man of principle would recognize that the environmental policies that he is advocating were pushed through by Obama and are being held up in court but a Republican would roll them all back. A man of principle would recognize that a Republican would seek to eliminate the ACA, which is still better than the alternative. I can go on and on. Being someone of principle is different than being an obstinate curmudgeon. He could choose your route but he is no hypocrite if he doesn't.

I don't know who you are by screen name but since you are regurgitating Democratic talking points I'm going to assume you're BarNone.
 

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This will happen sooner than people think. Largely due to the impact of social media and the ease with which political ideologies can be spread via the Internet. The next presidential election after this new presidents term will be have a legit third party candidate and possibly more, I think.

I think it can happen in November. If Trump loses out, he's running independently. I think Bloomberg is in. I would hope Sanders would do the same since his national polls are very strong. I would hope Ron Paul and Ventura would also run.
 

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70% is a lot these days for a Democrat or Republican. It's almost unheard of now. Again, I'm not advocating Trump to win, I'm saying he's better than Rubio or Cruz, as crazy as that sounds.
We'll see he has a shot to win but he's easily the worst candidate I've ever seen. The establishment is just so fukked that he shines.
 

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Trump - Obviously I disagree with 80%+ of his platform, but he is for the most part self-funded, says fukk-you to special interest money, thinks Iraq War was a huge mistake, has left-leaning views on certain topics, and openly challenged the Israeli lobby on multiple occasions. He is obviously pandering to xenophobia and white fear, but I think he would govern to the left of Rubio or Cruz.

A lot of people always point out the bold but no one ever ask...

Who exactly is Trump in the interest for?

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A lot of people always point out the bold but no one ever ask...

Who exactly is Trump in the interest for?

:patrice:

Obviously he is an ultra-capitalist business man, so I'm sure he already aligns with Wall Street interests on a lot of fronts, if not all.

But he is much less inclined to go around sucking AIPAC dikk and slobbering on Koch cock than Rubio and Cruz I would think. I may be wrong.
 
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