If ATL puts out one more hot rapper/producer combo, are they the GOAT hip hop city?

[K.O.N.Y]

I love that era of Dipset but they weren't really running anything, especially in 2005, them nikkas have 1 gold group album and Cam went platinum once. Thug Motivation 101 and The Carter 2 were bigger than anything Diplomats ever did.

And let's not act like Dipset wasn't one of the first NY clicks to hop on the south's dikk either.

If anything wayne stealing their swag was the biggest example of the "south" hopping on dikk. Thug motivation came out in 2005, that and that laffy taffy snap music took over. But like i said that was 05. The south didnt start dominating till that year. At the end of the day the south/atl has nothing to show for it. Where are your classics? on the level of the chronic(when the west dominated) or enter the 36 chambers/illmatic(when the east dominated). The south/atl dominates because the east and west fell off not because ya actually hot.Your reign will go down as the worst in hip hop when its all said and done

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

None of this makes sense.

How the fukk is French more popular than anybody on that list..his album sold 23k first week with no hits..those dues are all gold or better

And Nicki's last album didn't sell more than anybodys, shyt bricked.

Let me get this straight...TI is not relevant but got a gold plaque in 2013, please tell me when the last time one of Cali's legends with a "loyal fanbase" even cracked 300k

Lastly, RIP and Im Different are technically Bay Area sounding songs..but both those dudes albums were highly successful without them. People know those 2 for making trap/south music if they were just leeching off LA for their whole swag (ie French and the south) you would have a point but naah. If that's the case..your boy Problem's biggest hit comes courtesy of sampling a Master P classic.

Pop that was #36 at the Hot 100, higher than any Future single.

Roman Reloaded went platinum nikka Had a #5 on the hot 100 2chainz and Future combined didn't have that

Snoop with Ego Trippin, Malice N Wonderland

I'm not saying they leeched the whole sound from the west, hell nah. But, we are talking coasts/cities relevance right now and to have a single sound exactly like a region promotes both areas and should therefore not be mentioned as the artists own originality/hype.

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

If anything wayne stealing their swag was the biggest example of the "south" hopping on dikk. Thug motivation came out in 2005, that and that laffy taffy snap music took over. But like i said that was 05. The south didnt start dominating till that year. At the end of the day the south/atl has nothing to show for it. Where are your classics? on the level of the chronic(when the west dominated) or enter the 36 chambers/illmatic(when the east dominated). The south/atl dominates because the east and west fell off not because ya actually hot.Your reign will go down as the worst in hip hop when its all said and done

I can definitely agree with that. It is a well-known fukking fact that wayne has gotten his whole early look/rhyme structure/influence/vocabulary from east coast nikkas.

 

[Wacky D]

I love that era of Dipset but they weren't really running anything, especially in 2005, them nikkas have 1 gold group album and Cam went platinum once. Thug Motivation 101 and The Carter 2 were bigger than anything Diplomats ever did.

And let's not act like Dipset wasn't one of the first NY clicks to hop on the south's dikk either.

why are you basing your argument on sales? THATS NOT HIP-HOP. lol @ kanye west ever running anything.

and dipset been f*ckin with the south heavy since the 1990s. they didn't d*ckride chit. IN REALITY, they were the ones helping to break a lot of southern rappers into the east coast realm. artists like young jeezy, TIP, lil flip, and others. and obviously lil wayne is a product of dipset's aura and literally major figgas' penmanship.

if anybody hopped on d*cks, then the south hopped on dipset's. not the other way around.

Is that so? They've been on stage with Kendrick every fukking time. At Rock the bells, his own tour, summer jam. I'm not saying they are holding it down by themselves but to deny that they are a movement that are slowly establishing themselves as the crew to watch is crazy.

Also, I agree that mainstream america isn't checking for the rest of TDE but when u say u don't no nikka that have heard of them ieono who u hang with

Kendrick is not popping? Touring Europe of one album is not popping? Have you seen the youtubes of concerts? Critically acclaimed, sold well over gold and on his way to platinum, dropped several or featured on several top 30 singles, #1 on MTV list? You can argue that there are ATL nikkas that gotten similar recognition lately but to say that this wasn't Kendrick's year and claim that Game made a little noise?

I see that you don't understand what a movement is. again, the term needs to be retired, because at this juncture, its nothing more than a selling point that rappers use, and a trendy term for youngns.

the last actual movement in hip-hop was courtesy of young jeezy when he came out. and the last movement before that was dipset - the crew that made the term "movement" so popular, along with "swag" and a bunch of other chit that got played the hell out.

even if you think that TDE is slowly establishing themselves as a crew to watch, its still not a movement. its just 4 dudes slowly establishing themselves as a crew to watch.

and im not getting on them for not blowing up in the mainstream. ive been into hip-hop since the '80s. F*CK THE MAINSTREAM. yall in here violating about the chit that yall are arguing about and its not yall fault. its the oldheads around yall offline and online that aint operating right.

Kendrick does a lot of empty numbers. his music has no real presence in the hood, except maybe California where theyre desperate for a new hero. I can see now that Kendrick is gonna be this era's empty numbers guy. I thought it was gonna be j.cole.

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

I see that you don't understand what a movement is. again, the term needs to be retired, because at this juncture, its nothing more than a selling point that rappers use, and a trendy term for youngns.

the last actual movement in hip-hop was courtesy of young jeezy when he came out. and the last movement before that was dipset - the crew that made the term "movement" so popular, along with "swag" and a bunch of other chit that got played the hell out.

even if you think that TDE is slowly establishing themselves as a crew to watch, its still not a movement. its just 4 dudes slowly establishing themselves as a crew to watch.

and im not getting on them for not blowing up in the mainstream. ive been into hip-hop since the '80s. F*CK THE MAINSTREAM. yall in here violating about the chit that yall are arguing about and its not yall fault. its the oldheads around yall offline and online that aint operating right.

Kendrick does a lot of empty numbers. his music has no real presence in the hood, except maybe California where theyre desperate for a new hero. I can see now that Kendrick is gonna be this era's empty numbers guy. I thought it was gonna be j.cole.

nikka a movement is exactly what TDE can be. Because the type of movements you are referring to are far from classic hip hop movements since all Dipset did was set trends that had no real presence in hip hop music, but simply east coast culture. What was Jeezy's movement?

The whole fukking argument started with popularity and sales since nikkas like 2chainz and future were mentioned. Also, the rapper producer combo that people hyped are mostly trap so what else are we arguing? If we are talking an era of classic albums and dope lyricists then the whole thread failed from the start.

I want even fukk the last paragraph since, frankly, I'm not on a 24/7 watch to see what other hoods around the country are listening to on a daily basis but I do know that people were craving for that nikka's album for months in advance. The nikka easily built the biggest hype for an album and followed through in the last several years.

If cali is desperate for another hero, then what is ATL? When has the last lyricists held in high regard been talked about by other respected lyricists and spoken for by several legends?

I seriously do not know why you hold the south in high regard when they haven't done anything significant, rap-wise, in a long fukking time.

 

[Wacky D]

nikka a movement is exactly what TDE can be. Because the type of movements you are referring to are far from classic hip hop movements since all Dipset did was set trends that had no real presence in hip hop music, but simply east coast culture. What was Jeezy's movement?

The whole fukking argument started with popularity and sales since nikkas like 2chainz and future were mentioned. Also, the rapper producer combo that people hyped are mostly trap so what else are we arguing? If we are talking an era of classic albums and dope lyricists then the whole thread failed from the start.

I want even fukk the last paragraph since, frankly, I'm not on a 24/7 watch to see what other hoods around the country are listening to on a daily basis but I do know that people were craving for that nikka's album for months in advance. The nikka easily built the biggest hype for an album and followed through in the last several years.

If cali is desperate for another hero, then what is ATL? When has the last lyricists held in high regard been talked about by other respected lyricists and spoken for by several legends?

I seriously do not know why you hold the south in high regard when they haven't done anything significant, rap-wise, in a long fukks ting time.

honestly, I stopped reading right there at the bolded.

I cant post in this thread any longer.

I tried man.

word to the wise for some of yall: do research, get your facts str8 and pay attention to the older heads that actually know what theyre talking about instead of just making stuff up on the fly and running with it.

cmon man. yall in here arguing about sales.

 

[desp]

Future, Rich Homie Quan, Migos, Rocko, Gucci, 3K still got something in him, Cash Out, Dro, Trouble, Killer Mike, Retro Su$h!, FatKidsBrotha...

Yeah, Atlanta definitely on top right now from the mainstream to the underground.

 

[Jone2three45]

Now that I think about it,
Santana's Town do sound like a trap beat,
Even back in 2002,
The dips were futuristic.

 

[Offthegrid]

I love atl ga if it wasnt for atl i wouldnt b a rapper rite now

 

[Awesome Wells]

word to the wise for some of yall: do research, get your facts str8 and pay attention to the older heads that actually know what theyre talking about instead of just making stuff up on the fly and running with it.

cmon man. yall in here arguing about sales.

Real talk there.

 

[Brofato]

ATL radio plays their local artists. So if anybody is sick of other regions copying ATL, be mad at radio stations not ATL artists. Its a local sound that blew up IMO and continues to do so.

This is what keeps their reign strong, I believe. They put their artists on like no other.

You throw enough of them at the wall, a few are gonna stick. Not saying that they don't deserve it but hey, it's a nice strategy.

 

[Black smoke and cac jokes]

honestly, I stopped reading right there at the bolded.

I cant post in this thread any longer.

I tried man.

word to the wise for some of yall: do research, get your facts str8 and pay attention to the older heads that actually know what theyre talking about instead of just making stuff up on the fly and running with it.

cmon man. yall in here arguing about sales.

Earlier you said you wanted older heads to come in and speak on the issue and now you back away?

Sad.

 

[Rice N Beans]

im not sure about GOAT city but this run is impressive as fukk

Yeah whodathunk humanity could be capable of producing a large quantity of trash over airwaves.

 

[Wacky D]

Earlier you said you wanted older heads to come in and speak on the issue and now you back away?

Sad.

I backed away AFTER I realized that I was wasting my time.

for instance, you didn't know what a movement was.......so I corrected you.

then you ignored it and kept pushing your agenda.......so I went out of my way to break it down.

then you tried to argue me down about it because it didn't benefit your agenda. and in the midst of you arguing, I realized that you have even less of an understanding of the term "movement" than I thought..........at that point I was done because the next step would've been me talking down to you, which would lead to us throwing insults at each other.

AND THATS JUST ONE EXAMPLE. this is why theres such a divide on this forum these days.

This is what keeps their reign strong, I believe. They put their artists on like no other.

You throw enough of them at the wall, a few are gonna stick. Not saying that they don't deserve it but hey, it's a nice strategy.

its not a strategy.

its what happens when a plethora of record labels are based in a city.

thats why I laugh at the idea of Atlanta having a run of dominance. outside of a couple moments in time(like when tip & jeezy peaked), they really didn't do anything but flood the market, simply because they could.

but hey, theyre still putting rappers on with legitimate buzzes at a high rate in the midst of this plant "era", so I cant really be mad.

 

[AVXL]

It's not even about one more hot rapper anymore, Atlanta is established as the premier destination for hip hop & entertainment. Your favorite rapper got a house here. They prolly go to a studio off of Northside Dr (for outta towners, there's a lot of great studios off of Northside Dr). You can find any style of hip hop music b/c EVERYBODY lives here & everybody is trying to get it. Its competition, butnIt's all love though. If you think ATL is just trap/snap music, you either are ignorant or aren't paying attention.

And we just really getting started. Much respect to NYC & LA for their contributions to the genre, but we on top now