If floyd gets knocked out pacquio style tonight laid out in the middle of the ring how will u react

[krackdagawd]

This "Roy got over on speed and athleticism" thing is just beyond f*cking dumb. If Roy got by on that, he'd be Zab Judah, not perhaps the greatest amateur in history and a six-time champ who was at or near the top of the sport for nearly ten years. Like Floyd, Roy was taught how to box right after he learned to crawl and by 14, had mastered the technical aspect of the sport. The only difference was that Roy developed a very unique style which may have been "unorthodox" but was very rooted in the technical aspects of the sport. You don't accomplish as much as he did on just speed and athleticism, this aint Naseem Hamed. Even his KO against Tarver came after he fired a lead right, then immediately brought up his right to protect against the left hook. Perfect technique and Floyd does that all the time. Tarver broke through the guard. It happens. But please cut out this lazy analysis.

Technical aspects, you mean like his great jab that wasn't there?

You mean like his tendency to pull straight back?

Or his inability to fight on the inside?

I like Roy just as much as anyone here man but you can't make him something he is not. He was an amazing fighter which doesn't come around a lot in the sport but to say that was technically sound is lying breh.

An example of a fighter "very rooted" in the technical aspect of the sport is Hopkins or a Floyd. BHop got by on technique and skill and is still successful into his late 40s even with his reflexes not being what they use to be while Roy was getting put to sleep in his late 30s when his reflexes deteriorated.

Once his reflexes were gone what did most of Roy's defense consist of?

 

[patscorpio]

id be like

 

[TheProfessor]

Technical aspects, you mean like his great jab that wasn't there?

Great? No. But he had one. Used it to beat Ruiz. Used it to beat Hopkins. Used it to beat Pazienza. Are you sure you follow boxing?

You mean like his tendency to pull straight back?

Like Floyd? Sure.

Or his inability to fight on the inside?

You should be crucified for saying this dumb sh*t.

I like Roy just as much as anyone here man but you can't make him something he is not. He was an amazing fighter which doesn't come around a lot in the sport but to say that was technically sound is lying breh.

You don't know what you're talking about.

An example of a fighter "very rooted" in the technical aspect of the sport is Hopkins or a Floyd. BHop got by on technique and skill and is still successful into his late 40s even with his reflexes not being what they use to be while Roy was getting put to sleep in his late 30s when his reflexes deteriorated.

I suppose Ray Leonard had no technical skill. His career was over by the time he was 33. Great logic, bud.

Once his reflexes were gone what did most of Roy's defense consist of?

He lost at 36. Like Floyd, he began losing his reflexes well before that. And kept winning. But there comes a time where everyone loses. It happens.

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

You really think we gonna see a celebration if you gets put to sleep

C'man son. nikkas love Floyd. The celebration will come primarily from CACs, Mexicans & Filipinos who have been waiting so long to see Mayweather lose

Fixed...

 

[drugxglory]

This is the reason im watchin this at home and not with the filipinos ill be hanging out with today. I dont want to hear their happiness if floyd loses.

Man same here i was thinkin about going out to watch this but i know its gonna be all Canelo fans well not "fans" just people who want to see Mayweather lose.

 

[Lakerman0834]

another thing for Roy was all the weight he kept puttn on and losing finally caught up to him too

 

[krackdagawd]

Great? No. But he had one. Used it to beat Ruiz. Used it to beat Hopkins. Used it to beat Pazienza. Are you sure you follow boxing?

Like Floyd? Sure.


You should be crucified for saying this dumb sh*t.


You don't know what you're talking about.

I suppose Ray Leonard had no technical skill. His career was over by the time he was 33. Great logic, bud.

He lost at 36. Like Floyd, he began losing his reflexes well before that. And kept winning. But there comes a time where everyone loses. It happens.

1) So you are admitting Roy did not have a great jab cool.

2) Floyd pulls back to get out of range and counter his defense involves rolling and angles you can't compare that to Roy's defense at all.

3)I should be crucified for saying Roy can't fight on the inside? Why did many people feel Tarver beat him in the first fight? What did Tarver do in that first fight? Fight on the inside. When Glen Johnson ko'd him where exactly were they fighting? On the inside. Roy was able to hide his inability to fight on the inside because he was so much faster than everyone he didn't have to. Whereas the more technically sound fighters I mentioned earlier could do both.

4)If you read my post correctly I said Roy got by on his speed and athleticism I did not say he had no skill. You said his style was rooted in the technical aspects of the sport and I gave you the reasons why they were not. If his fundamentals were better I believe he would have been able to do better at the tail end of his career and not get ko'd by bums in Kazafukkestan.

You have yet to answer what Roy's defense consisted of once his reflexes were gone

 

[Ziggiy]

I'm going back to my birth place of Grand Rapids Michigan and lamenting the end of Black Excellence while committing ritualistic Japanese suicide...

 

[Marvel]

another thing for Roy was all the weight he kept puttn on and losing finally caught up to him too

Yep..its the reason why B-hop stayed sharp for so long...he stayed around his fight weight year round and stayed in shape. I can imagine that gaining and dropping weight is not good for the body and eventually slows you down quicker than staying in shape at all times.

 

[Pimp]

How you figure, Canelo would be the new De La Hoya and would be the biggest draw in the sport
and the rematch would even in bigger
Can't see Floyd getting knocked out tho, but something don't seem right, he's probably gonna lose on the cards

Killing Jesse James doesn't make you Jesse James . Floyd isn't a huge draw because of skill. It's his sh!t talking that's the draw. Even when DLH lost he still was the big draw.

 

[Pimp]

Nobody saw Roy getting bodied either.

I did. I ordered that fight & told my boy Roy shouldn't fight him again cause that first fight was close. Weight + age is why Roy lost. Dude had 50 fights under his belt.

 

[TheNig]

id be like

Pretty much. I don't think people understand how often this shyt happens.

Here's a poor example: i expected Ward to beat Dawson but i didnt expect him to getting knocked on his ass. it happens.

What bothers me about boxing fans in here is...

1. Not knowing if theyre really fans or if they just follow floyd and manny.

2. Zero objectivity.

 

[TheNig]

I did. I ordered that fight & told my boy Roy shouldn't fight him again cause that first fight was close. Weight + age is why Roy lost. Dude had 50 fights under his belt.

I always said that the worst thing Roy could have did was fight Ruiz.

 

[jadillac]

lol @ ppl taking this thread so seriously. This was meant to be a thread of funny pics and gifs

 

[STAN JONES]

I dont think I could take it

I still remember that hurt feeling when Tarver dropped Roy