If God doesn't act, is he complicit?

[JesusFOREVER]

show me were it says Apple

The sealed scroll (Gen 1) is untouchable...

The fact that there is a contradiction between Gen 1 and 2 speaks to how much the serpent has affected the text

Muscle memory

 

[Chrishaune]

So then you're saying God in fact does not have anything to do with the creation of individual humans outside of Adam and Eve?

And that brings us back to Adam and Eve who were not created via procreation yet disobeyed God. Did he not know Adam would eat from the tree before he created him? If so did God not create a sinner himself?

Of course God stands outside of time and sees the past, present, and future. So what you're saying is you would rather not have been born...huh. That's all I hear is one big complaint. What's wrong, you're not happy with your life breh? Awww...


You're going to have to toughen up and learn what God said to make it.

 

[JuvenileHell]

imagine commiting mass genocide by flooding an Earth and your followers think it's a good thing

Imagine have the power to stop a child from being born with physical defects/mental illness/ or stop a woman from being raped and being scarred forever or stop an entire race be enslaved for 400 years but letting it happen anyway because not enough of human kind had massaged your ego by dikkeating you every Sunday.

If God is real he's an egotistical piece of shyt who should be clapped on sight

 

[Actually6Foot3]

Of course God stands outside of time and sees the past, present, and future. So what you're saying is you would rather not have been born...huh. That's all I hear is one big complaint. What's wrong, you're not happy with your life breh? Awww

strawman. Please stay on topic

 

[JesusFOREVER]

I said he knowingly made a sinner. Not that he forced the act of sin on him. Stop purposefully mixing my words.

I never said God made him eat the apple. I said God made Adam KNOWING he would sin before he even made him and as such God made a sinner.

To make a sinner means he made him sin, he made a human that chose sin i didn’t mix anything up, straight from the horses mouth

do you understand what the words “made” and “make” mean? If you make cake batter but someone else puts in the over and decorates it did you make a cake? Meditate on that parable before you respond

 

[Actually6Foot3]

To make a sinner means he made him sin, he made a human that chose sin i didn’t mix anything up, straight from the horses mouth

do you understand what the words “made” and “make” mean? If you make cake batter but someone else puts in the over and decorates it did you make a cake? Meditate on that parable before you respond

says who?

You're creating an argument and arguing against it because it's all you've got.

God creates sinner from scratch. To argue otherwise would imply that God is in fact not all knowing.

He could've simply not made him all together.


That's also one of the dumbest analogies you could've come up with.

 

[Micky Mikey]

I mean they say God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent.

The everyday horrors of the world: human trafficking, rape, all around evil shyt. Is God complicit? These levels of evil don't have to exist for us to learn a lesson.


I just read about Lost Boys of Bird Island and made me sick to my stomach. How can "God" allow this to happen?

I'm not looking for answer from atheists.

God is rape. God is torture. God is murder. God is famine. God is selfishness. God is greed. God is chaos.

God is your favorite meal. God is communion. God is the joy you get looking at your children. God is your mothers love. God is selflessness. God is unity.


Expand your notions of God and it will all make sense. If all Humans fully and completely realized God there would be no rape, human trafficking and any of the other things you deem "evil".

 

[Actually6Foot3]

Imagine have the power to stop a child from being born with physical defects/mental illness/ or stop a woman from being raped and being scarred forever or stop an entire race be enslaved for 400 years but letting it happen anyway because not enough of human kind had massaged your ego by dikkeating you every Sunday.

If God is real he's an egotistical piece of shyt who should be clapped on sight

100% agreed. But they won't answer any of this. Because those rapists God created had "free will" to go to church that day instead of rape

 

[JesusFOREVER]

says who?

You're creating an argument and arguing against it because it's all you've got.

God creates sinner from scratch. To argue otherwise would imply that God is in fact not all knowing.

He could've simply not made him all together.


That's also one of the dumbest analogies you could've come up with.

Says you, because that’s your damn statement fool, you think pretending you don’t understand what making something means gone you get out of this destruction? Nah answer the damn question, if you make cake batter and someone else decorates and puts it in the oven DID YOU MAKE A CAKE?

you KNEW it would be a cake from the start, go ahead i will not respond to you until you answer, but you won’t because you know its over and youve contradicted yourself no matter what you say

the blind leads the blind

 

[Actually6Foot3]

Says you, because that’s your damn statement fool, you think pretending you don’t understand what making something means gone you get out of this destruction? Nah answer the damn question, if you make cake batter and someone else decorates and puts it in the oven DID YOU MAKE A CAKE?

you KNEW it would be a cake from the start, go ahead i will not respond to you until you answer, but you won’t because you know its over and youve contradicted yourself no matter what you say

the blind leads the blind

nope i already told you that's not what I said. You want to create your own interpretations and argue against them, that's on you nutty.


Lmao bruh what does cake batter have to do with God creating sinners? Make it make sense.

Stay on topic.

 

[JuvenileHell]

100% agreed. But they won't answer any of this. Because those rapists God created had "free will" to go to church that day instead of rape

Like think about how seriously fukked up God is. He created humans, and also created good and evil and is in control of everything that affects humans and is like "worship me or else" and religious nuts call this love

If your sister's fiance locked her in a room and denied her food/water and said that in order to get them she must worship him, you'd kill his ass (as you should)

Controlling literally all the conditions for a better existence and putting someone in a position where they must worship you or perish is nothing but abuse

 

[MMS]

Like think about how seriously fukked up God is. He created humans, and also created good and evil and is in control of everything that affects humans and is like "worship me or else" and religious nuts call this love

If your sister's fiance locked her in a room and denied her food/water and said that in order to get them she must worship him, you'd kill his ass (as you should)

Controlling literally all the conditions for a better existence and putting someone in a position where they must worship you or perish is nothing but abuse

depends on how you view God from reading the OT

if you view him as a person like yourself (a projection) then everything wrong you see in him is what you perceive...but if you dont perceive those things then the projection you have changes

the question is this...is it up to man or god to define mans perception?

IE a short story:

you got a friend who when you met him was on even keel and everything is peachy...then hard times hit and you are doing well and he is struggling and blaming everything and everyone for his bad circumstance

you come to him and offer him advice out of his rut, but instead of taking your advice, he admonishes you and rants that no one understands his perspective and blames everyone and everything that he surmises got him there.

Is the problem that you don't understand his perspective..or that he is unwilling to question his own perspective?

 

[Chrishaune]

God is rape. God is torture. God is murder. God is famine. God is selfishness. God is greed. God is chaos.

You understand you have to stand before God and answer for what you say don't you?

You should be afraid to speak on Yahweh....

But you will understand. I don't care if you feel like you have your whole life ahead of you. God can allow you to be taken out of here soon. Then you will meet Him.

The time for playing around is about to come to an end.

 

[Dzali OG]

The real issue is people want to be lawless and then blame God for the wages of their lawlessness. They want to engage in demonic activity and then wonder why everything is so chaotic, dangerous and full of confusion.

Luke 17: 21
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

God gave us some time where we have free will and we get to choose whether we decide to follow God's law or whether we follow Satan's law which is actually a lack of law (lawlessness). If you actually do what you're supposed to do in regards to following God's law you will see how much more peaceful and coherent life is.

Common rhetoric of the religious that "people want to be lawless".

Every society has laws made by its citizens, but people want to be lawless?

The narcissism of the religious...

 

[I AM WE ARE]

Same people say don't view God in human light are the same ones talking about his son e.t.c
Can't have it both ways