If God doesn't act, is he complicit?

[TL15]

This isn’t a new concept and I’ve even brought it up here

“Is God willing to prevent evil but not able? Then he is not omnipotent

Able but not willing?
Then he is malevolent

both able and willing to stop evil?
Then where does evil come from?

neither willing nor able?
Then why call him God”

Epicurus

 

[MikelArteta]

Every knee will now and every tongue will confess

 

[Wildhundreds]

Why blame God for the actions of humans, especially those who clearly aren't following his word? Adam ate the tree of the fruit of knowledge of good and evil and here we are, clearly seeing the difference between the two.

Recently I've started to see the bible as very good literature, interpreted by man to benefit him.. If you can make people believe that God is the reason the earth is the way it is because of his will.. You can make entire races complacent..

Then they tell you to suffer now, because God will take care of the evil ones, and you'll get your reward after you die.. Think of all the ways a race can manipulate and take advantage of that..

If you take your power and put it into the hands of a God in heaven, you'll always be at the bottom..

 

[kevm3]

why put the tree there in the first place?

Free will and curiosity. When free will was given, that leads to freedom of thought and due to peoples' own curiosity, they CHOOSE to create the conditions of this sort of world we have. You have this perfect world and yet people will wonder what it would be like if the world wasn't perfect. God made rules for harmony, but you have people wondering what would life be like if they didn't have to follow God's rules.

 

[Wildhundreds]

That sound petty breh. God made creations(adam & eve) and said don't eat out of this tree? Why even put the tree there in the first place? If he's omniscient that means he knew Adam would eat the fruit. So that was entrapment. God is omnipotent, so has the power to stop but doesn't?

It wasn't a literal tree breh.. It's symbolic of humans becoming vain.. Putting self over knowledge.. The fact they were naked and was made "aware" of their nakedness should tell you it was about information and not some stupid apple.

 

[kevm3]

Recently I've started to see the bible as very good literature, interpreted by man to benefit him.. If you can make people believe that God is the reason the earth is the way it is because of his will.. You can make entire races complacent..

Then they tell you to suffer now, because God will take care of the evil ones, and you'll get your reward after you die.. Think of all the ways a race can manipulate and take advantage of that..

If you take your power and put it into the hands of a God in heaven, you'll always be at the bottom..

I put my faith in God and I'm not on the bottom. That's why it's critical for people to read the Bible themselves because they wouldn't be easily manipulated. Pastors can easily manipulate the masses because they don't read the Bible for themselves. The Bible is hundreds upon hundreds of pages, yet somehow pastors only talk about the same 10 or 20 verses.

 

[TRUEST]

The only logical explanation is that reincarnation is real. If you were a murderous psychopath in ur previous life and God is well aware of that, he can comfortably look away when you get served your punishment in the next life. Of course this line of thinking can be used to do evil sh1t by those bent on being evil.

 

[Busted_Toes]

The only logical explanation is that reincarnation is real. If you were a murderous psychopath in ur previous life and God is well aware of that, he can comfortably look away when you get served your punishment in the next life. Of course this line of thinking can be used to do evil sh1t by those bent on being evil.

so people suffering in this life, were evil doers in there past lives?

 

[rbksNgirbauds]

So child sex trafficking has a grand plan from the Most High? Either God complicit or absent.

I mean you can call it complicit. But the Most High explicitly stated that he created good and evil. Hes in command of righteous spirits on his right hand and wicked ones on his left all to serve his purpose...what I'm saying is, it's not our place to question that purpose. You're just man.
Who are you to speak against his decisions. It's all his creation.

"Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
Romans 9.21

You're powerless in all of this is my point. Whether you agree or disagree with how he operates.

 

[TRUEST]

so people suffering in this life, were evil doers in there past lives?

Nobody really knows my dude. When I hear people trying, with conviction, to interpret the Bible I can’t help but laugh. No one really knows the purpose of what was written.

 

[rbksNgirbauds]

worship abusive parents brehs

You're a fool. With all due respect

 

[TL15]

The only logical explanation is that reincarnation is real. If you were a murderous psychopath in ur previous life and God is well aware of that, he can comfortably look away when you get served your punishment in the next life. Of course this line of thinking can be used to do evil sh1t by those bent on being evil.

Murderous psychopath:

but God made me
My actions are already determined because God knows all and controls all, right?
so my destiny was to be a murderous psychopath and I’m punished for that?


The counter argument before it comes up:
But but free will...


Free will can’t exist logically under “determinism” (where there is a being that knows what will happen before it happens ie: God)


Counter argument to that:

God works beyond our logic

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

So child sex trafficking has a grand plan from the Most High? Either God complicit or absent.

If all humans loved like God then it wouldnt exist.

 

[kevm3]

The real issue is people want to be lawless and then blame God for the wages of their lawlessness. They want to engage in demonic activity and then wonder why everything is so chaotic, dangerous and full of confusion.

Luke 17: 21
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

God gave us some time where we have free will and we get to choose whether we decide to follow God's law or whether we follow Satan's law which is actually a lack of law (lawlessness). If you actually do what you're supposed to do in regards to following God's law you will see how much more peaceful and coherent life is.

 

[null]

You're a fool. With all due respect

sounds reasonable ...