If God doesn't act, is he complicit?

[Wildhundreds]

I put my faith in God and I'm not on the bottom. That's why it's critical for people to read the Bible themselves because they wouldn't be easily manipulated. Pastors can easily manipulate the masses because they don't read the Bible for themselves. The Bible is hundreds upon hundreds of pages, yet somehow pastors only talk about the same 10 or 20 verses.

I've read the bible from cover to cover with some understanding..
Good information in there indeed. But its been manipulated breh..
The debate always begin when people talk about the theology of God.. Not fundamental things about humanity.. Not lying on anyone, not stealing, not sleeping with the next mans wife, honoring parents.. All of those are good laws..

So if ones doctrine doesn't agree with the next man, the fundamentals of each religion is usually the same.. Especially amongst Abrahamic denominations..

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Is he complicit? No. If your parents tell you, "you're grown, you can make your own decisions". Then you go and rob a bank. Does that make them complicit? No.

If they knew and didn't stop you, does that make them complicit? No.

If they knew you were the wild type and were capable of such a crime, does that make them complicit? No.

They have nothing to do with the crime. They don't benefit from the crime. They're not even trying to benefit from the crime.

All that is on you.

God being omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent doesn't change the contract. You're allowed to make your own decisions. And you have to deal with consequences of them.

 

[TRUEST]

The real issue is people want to be lawless and then blame God for the wages of their lawlessness. They want to engage in demonic activity and then wonder why everything is so chaotic, dangerous and full of confusion.

Luke 17: 21
Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

God gave us some time where we have free will and we get to choose whether we decide to follow God's law or whether we follow Satan's law which is actually a lack of law (lawlessness). If you actually do what you're supposed to do in regards to following God's law you will see how much more peaceful and coherent life is.

Not always the case. Pharaoh didn’t have free will when he refused to let the Israelites go. Saul didn’t have free will when he sought to kill David.

 

[Actually6Foot3]

Free will and curiosity. When free will was given, that leads to freedom of thought and due to peoples' own curiosity, they CHOOSE to create the conditions of this sort of world we have. You have this perfect world and yet people will wonder what it would be like if the world wasn't perfect. God made rules for harmony, but you have people wondering what would life be like if they didn't have to follow God's rules.

is it free will if God knew what would happen before it ever happened? Free will assumes the Creator is merely an observer which as we know can't be the case.

 

[Actually6Foot3]

Is he complicit? No. If your parents tell you, "you're grown, you can make your own decisions". Then you go and rob a bank. Does that make them complicit? No.

If they knew and didn't stop you, does that make them complicit? No.

If they knew you were the wild type and were capable of such a crime, does that make them complicit? No.

They have nothing to do with the crime. They don't benefit from the crime. They're not even trying to benefit from the crime.

All that is on you.

God being omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent doesn't change the contract. You're allowed to make your own decisions. And you have to deal with consequences of them.

why do you compare the rules of God to the rules of humans? How is it comparable to your parent telling you not to do something?

Your parents are not all knowing and all powerful. And in the sense of God they wouldn't be your "Creator" like God is. God knows what you'd do before you even know. He knows your life from start to finish. You could even say he creates sinners from scratch

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

Is he complicit? No. If your parents tell you, "you're grown, you can make your own decisions". Then you go and rob a bank. Does that make them complicit? No.

If they knew and didn't stop you, does that make them complicit? No.

If they knew you were the wild type and were capable of such a crime, does that make them complicit? No.

They have nothing to do with the crime. They don't benefit from the crime. They're not even trying to benefit from the crime.

All that is on you.

God being omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent doesn't change the contract. You're allowed to make your own decisions. And you have to deal with consequences of them.

An all powerful being is completely different from our parents. They can't stop us from doing something, but God supposedly can possess people and make them do things according to the bible. He does it with Saul and Pharoah after all.

Funny how their free will got compromised, but God can't interviene into our affairs now a days

 

[Busted_Toes]

Is he complicit? No. If your parents tell you, "you're grown, you can make your own decisions". Then you go and rob a bank. Does that make them complicit? No.

If they knew and didn't stop you, does that make them complicit? No.

If they knew you were the wild type and were capable of such a crime, does that make them complicit? No.

They have nothing to do with the crime. They don't benefit from the crime. They're not even trying to benefit from the crime.

All that is on you.

God being omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent doesn't change the contract. You're allowed to make your own decisions. And you have to deal with consequences of them.

So God is absent because we breached the contract?

 

[kevm3]

An all powerful being is completely different from our parents. They can't stop us from doing something, but God supposedly can possess people and make them do things according to the bible. He does it with Saul and Pharoah after all.

Funny how their free will got compromised, but God can't interviene into our affairs now a days

God CAN and does intervene in our affairs all the time but it simply is ignored. And at times God WOULD intervene but people choose to push Him out of their life. When you intentionally choose to push God out of your life your protection is limited and you are free game for the devil..

 

[Turbulent]

I don't think God has a conscience the same way humans have. It would be like asking an ant to explain what does being in love is for humans.

 

[kevm3]

The real question is if we aren't to believe in God, what are we to believe in?

 

[Stone Cold]

"good & evil" is a paradigm designed for this density as an instrument for
learning and building

 

[FS4LFE]

I guess God had his phone on do not disturb when slavery and other terrible events were going on in the world. I’m sure he’s gonna show up soon though right? Must be him working in “mysterious ways”.

 

[levitate]

It's not for us to understand all the workings and meanings behind everything the Most High does.
We aren't his equal. Mind ya place

So the Bible clearly isn’t true.

 

[levitate]

I think he/she/it created the shyt and just lets it play out as a non-participating observer.

 

[rbksNgirbauds]

So the Bible clearly isn’t true.

Why do you say that?