If God doesn't act, is he complicit?

[Wildhundreds]

does inbreeding not cause DNA defects?

can a shepherd or a farmer find themselves bombarded by radiation other than from the sun?

Who makes drugs?

All manner of things are possible you see. A two headed snake, a person with no arms, a bird born with no wings. Consider that creation is an infinite creation...therefore inside this infinite creation there are infinite possibilities. Such that everything that comes into being and comes out of being are summed in this perceivably infinite thing

If your spirit...your soul was a point source. Where did it exist prior to your birth? where does it go when you are dead?

When we say something dies...we can tell ourselves that clearly that other creature is inanimate...but by that same token are we dead before we're born?

you might already existed and dont know...if we are born by something infinite...then by proxy are we infinite? Suggest this is true...then the possibilities of who and what we are change at will.

In other words...your (or somebodys) present circumstance only means something within the present lifetime. If you existed prior to it or after it...your current perception of life is not affected either way. Which means IF you did say...were born again..you would not know the suffering or pleasure you had prior

Sounds like the fundamentals of existence.. Science actually.

 

[Deafheaven]

Its being realistic IMO..

What christians didn't learn in church was that the love of God was the ability to deny himself, to serve others.. In order to do that, you have to see the world from their eyes..
Love is the fulfillment of the law.. Salvation is between the individual and the God they serve. So even in disagreement, God still requires coexistence..

That punishing someone in the pit of fire, and everything else that comes with beliefs, is from man.. The flesh..

I'm a pragmatist at heart

If me being a good well meaning person isn't enough for god and some murderer who blindly believes his text is more worthy than my fate is sealed and I'll find out when I die. It is what it is.

 

[Wildhundreds]

I mean this is encroaching onto more philosophical musings than anything christianity based imo. All that is possible, who knows. Hell even the stories in the OT are "possible" as peoples perception of things were decidedly more archaic than our understanding now. A lot of genetic defects can definitely be traced back to tangible reasons though. This is conversation that is a lot more geared towards spirituality tbh.

But what is spirituality?

 

[MMS]

I mean this is encroaching onto more philosophical musings than anything christianity based imo. All that is possible, who knows. Hell even the stories in the OT are "possible" as peoples perception of things were decidedly more archaic than our understanding now. A lot of genetic defects can definitely be traced back to tangible reasons though. This is conversation that is a lot more geared towards spirituality tbh.

can you separate God from spirituality? In my opinion its a big no

say you believed greek perspective and that you exist in the Aether...and you might...its still alive. Everywhere you look you will find the living

and the living god is within all things because what God commanded came to life (out of the chaos of nothing)

fundamentally what Christianity is trying to get across to you is that the fundamental substance that you were born in, persist in and ultimately will pass away in is the Lord Jesus Christ.

Some would argue that Jesus is not God, and others would say yes he is. The truth or atleast my truth is that the spirit of the word is indeed God as is those who speak its message from the heart. When Adam as in the cool of the garden and there was no sin...he was in 100% communion with God. There was no gaps...no misunderstanding...the creatures therein simply were of one mind and one understanding. No distrust, no beguiling, no evils that exist out of the creation of ego.

The fall of man is the fall of communion with God. Everything thereafter are vain attempts to create a reality that's "better" than how it was but not what is in Genesis 1. When someone says what is Heaven...i say look at Genesis 1:8

Notice nowhere in there does it say God created hell...or other realms for that matter. If you meditate on this in a state of truth you will realize that God forming the heavens and the earth is currently happening and continuoously happening.

 

[Deafheaven]

But what is spirituality?

Whatever you want it to be

Personally my spirituality is I believe you have to love your fate. Good shyt happens, bad shyt happens. hopefully more good than bad but you have to love your existence since its the only one you get

 

[Wildhundreds]

Whatever you want it to be

Personally my spirituality is I believe you have to love your fate. Good shyt happens, bad shyt happens. hopefully more good than bad but you have to love your existence since its the only one you get

I believe all religions of the faith of Abraham have a ten commandments to their belief..

If everyone loved their neighbors as thyself, the world would be much more livable.. Seems we have a problem when it comes to what happens when you die.. Thats interesting if you sit down and ponder that shyt..

 

[MMS]

Whatever you want it to be

Personally my spirituality is I believe you have to love your fate. Good shyt happens, bad shyt happens. hopefully more good than bad but you have to love your existence since its the only one you get

Genesis 1:2

And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

the whole earth is of dust and water...the same dust and water we are formed of

John 14:15-21

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

 

[Deafheaven]

I believe all religions of the faith of Abraham have a ten commandments to their belief..

If everyone loved their neighbors as thyself, the world would be much more livable.. Seems we have a problem when it comes to what happens when you die.. Thats interesting if you sit down and ponder that shyt..

If people actually really followed the positive aspects of the bible the world would be a better place, but for a text that is said to be the words of god people love to pick and choose what, when, and from whom they believe. I'm 30. I may have met one or two self professed christians my whole life who didn't engage in premarital sex. How can I take this serious when 99 percent of ya'll don't. All sin is equal so if Jesus came back you in hell right along with me because you need to fukk on something.

Its all so bizarre to me if you one actually believes this is the key to eternal life you don't follow it verbatim.

 

[MMS]

If people actually really followed the positive aspects of the bible the world would be a better place, but for a text that is said to be the words of god people love to pick and choose what, when, and from whom they believe. I'm 30. I may have met one or two self professed christians my whole life who didn't engage in premarital sex. How can I take this serious when 99 percent of ya'll don't. All sin is equal so if Jesus came back you in hell right along with me because you need to fukk on something.

Its all so bizarre to me if you one actually believes this is the key to eternal life you don't follow it verbatim.

in ancient times marriage was consummation (sex)

the ceremony and the extras are just a product of society

 

[Deafheaven]

in ancient times marriage was consummation (sex)

the ceremony and the extras are just a product of society

You know damn well not everyone out here claiming the most high and having sex not getting married to each other

 

[InfinateOpulance]

Imagine telling your girl "I love you the most, that's why I'm putting you through these trials and tribulations "

 

[Chrishaune]

You know damn well not everyone out here claiming the most high and having sex not getting married to each other

A lot of people are ignorant no matter what they call themselves, but you know better so what's your excuse? Everybody has to grow and relationships are not easy. God knows this, and that's why Jesus came, to give fallen mankind a chance.

 

[J.E.T.S]

Most high done lost control. That’s what happened.

 

[Ghost Utmost]

I mean they say God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent.

The everyday horrors of the world: human trafficking, rape, all around evil shyt. Is God complicit? These levels of evil don't have to exist for us to learn a lesson.


I just read about Lost Boys of Bird Island and made me sick to my stomach. How can "God" allow this to happen?

I'm not looking for answer from atheists.

G-d is not only complicit

G-d made the devil. On purpose. To fukc with you.

You've read the Bible. G-d has killed everyone on Earth before with a flood. Only one family survived that shyt

Turning people into pillars of salt

Hell as a concept is the clue that

G-d is NOT your friend. All the bad shyt comes from the same source as the good shyt. And there's an infinite amount of bad shyt compared to just a little bit of good shyt.

The surface of the planet is mostly ocean. You can't live on all the land. Prolly half the land or more is dense jungles, glaciers, deserts, mountains... terrain that would kill you

Animals that want you dead all the way down to invisible o.we so small you cant see. Want you dead.

And off the planet? Every cubic meter of space is insta death. Forever and ever.

The question really is: what did you see or hear that made you think shyt was sweet?

Cause it never has been

 

[CW_1991]

Y'all still in here trying to edify dudes clearly not meant to get it?