If he completely retired tomorrow, Would Eminem be Top5 dead or alive?

Billy Ocean

Divine Universal Black Man Representin'
Supporter
Joined
May 9, 2012
Messages
42,777
Reputation
9,363
Daps
207,842
Reppin
TPC
Top 5 is...no, top 10 yea/debatable...anything lower than top 20 and i'll really just wanna punch you in the face a bunch of times.

On another note though, while that joint for tony toca was pretty weak, I honestly don't think that's gonna be anywhere near reflective of his new album, all his albums have their own "sound" and I doubt that's going to be it. I think he can drop a better album that MCHG.

:aicmon:

Stop it. Eminem is easily the most overrated MC of all time. ZERO UNIVERSALLY considered CLASSIC albums, several below average albums, a shytLOAD of wack/corny tracks and verses and one of the most notable skill fall offs in hip hop history. Dude wouldn't even have threads made about him if he was my color, breh. Somebody oughta punch you in the face for stannin whiteboy so hard.
 

mikishere

#byrdgang
Supporter
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
11,478
Reputation
2,669
Daps
36,881
Reppin
NYC
:aicmon:

Stop it. Eminem is easily the most overrated MC of all time. ZERO UNIVERSALLY considered CLASSIC albums, several below average albums, a shytLOAD of wack/corny tracks and verses and one of the most notable skill fall offs in hip hop history. Dude wouldn't even have threads made about him if he was my color, breh. Somebody oughta punch you in the face for stannin whiteboy so hard.

Cosign the bolded, but everyone and they moms was calling that MMLP classic and still do

other than that and SSLP... Garbage discography
 

dubsmith_nz

Superstar
Supporter
Joined
Jun 10, 2012
Messages
8,862
Reputation
1,435
Daps
20,511
Reppin
Aotearoa
:aicmon:

Stop it. Eminem is easily the most overrated MC of all time. ZERO UNIVERSALLY considered CLASSIC albums, several below average albums, a shytLOAD of wack/corny tracks and verses and one of the most notable skill fall offs in hip hop history. Dude wouldn't even have threads made about him if he was my color, breh. Somebody oughta punch you in the face for stannin whiteboy so hard.

So MMLP aint a classic round here? :why:

Even Dre said that's the closest he's ever come to producing a perfect album.

From a purely technical standpoint top 5 in his prime. Overall impact and success within the game top 5. As an all round artists and emcee, Em would be top 10-20 for sure, you could make a case for 10 other emcees with a better catalogue than him. Recovery and Encore were big let downs, and D12 World was disappointing.

He also has a lot of tracks that are just borderline trash (Puke, Fack, We Made You etc). SSLP, MMLP and Eminem Show were a great trifecta, and for the amount of hate it gets I love Relapse, but yeah, his music hasn't aged that well, and as of late his musics been hit and miss.
 

MAKAVELI25

the heir apparent
Supporter
Joined
Jun 21, 2012
Messages
19,025
Reputation
5,695
Daps
75,402
Reppin
#ByrdGang
I honestly cant take anyone seriously who puts Em in their top 10. On a technical level the white boy can rap with the best of them but his catalogue is shyt :scusthov:
 

MAKAVELI25

the heir apparent
Supporter
Joined
Jun 21, 2012
Messages
19,025
Reputation
5,695
Daps
75,402
Reppin
#ByrdGang
So MMLP aint a classic round here? :why:

Even Dre said that's the closest he's ever come to producing a perfect album.

From a purely technical standpoint top 5 in his prime. Overall impact and success within the game top 5. As an all round artists and emcee, Em would be top 10-20 for sure, you could make a case for 10 other emcees with a better catalogue than him. Recovery and Encore were big let downs, and D12 World was disappointing.

He also has a lot of tracks that are just borderline trash (Puke, Fack, We Made You etc). SSLP, MMLP and Eminem Show were a great trifecta, and for the amount of hate it gets I love Relapse, but yeah, his music hasn't aged that well, and as of late his musics been hit and miss.

Eminem has zero classics, homie, let's cut that bullshyt out right now
tumblr_mjsgmhFb3a1ry4q0lo1_400.gif
 

Billy Ocean

Divine Universal Black Man Representin'
Supporter
Joined
May 9, 2012
Messages
42,777
Reputation
9,363
Daps
207,842
Reppin
TPC
So MMLP aint a classic round here? :why:

Even Dre said that's the closest he's ever come to producing a perfect album.

From a purely technical standpoint top 5 in his prime. Overall impact and success within the game top 5. As an all round artists and emcee, Em would be top 10-20 for sure, you could make a case for 10 other emcees with a better catalogue than him. Recovery and Encore were big let downs, and D12 World was disappointing.

He also has a lot of tracks that are just borderline trash (Puke, Fack, We Made You etc). SSLP, MMLP and Eminem Show were a great trifecta, and for the amount of hate it gets I love Relapse, but yeah, his music hasn't aged that well, and as of late his musics been hit and miss.

MMLP is a dope album but is not in the same league of albums like Chronic, Ready to Die, 36 Chambers, etc...none of his albums are. Let's be real. And you're right...none of them have aged well.

The impact he has is mainly because of the fact that he's a marketable whiteboy that got an OFFICIAL black hip hop co-sign in Dr, Dre. Dude has not been in the game for 20 years and he's been generating predominantly average to wack, uninspired music for almost a decade now. Dudes feeling like they wanna "punch" guys in the face because they don't have him in their top 20? :childplease: EMINEM IS THE MOST OVERRATED HIP HOP ARTIST EVER. PERIOD.
 

Mr. Jack Napier

#MambaForever
Supporter
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
44,998
Reputation
7,492
Daps
164,491
Reppin
The Empire State
I have this argument with my homies all the time. 2 of them think Em is the best of all time. I fukking laughed at them. He's not even in my top 5.
 

Billy Ocean

Divine Universal Black Man Representin'
Supporter
Joined
May 9, 2012
Messages
42,777
Reputation
9,363
Daps
207,842
Reppin
TPC
Cosign the bolded, but everyone and they moms was calling that MMLP classic and still do

other than that and SSLP... Garbage discography

White media mentions MMLP classic. Em does not have an album that can be called classic without heavy dissent.
 

Jigg

Pro
Supporter
Joined
May 26, 2013
Messages
496
Reputation
120
Daps
2,019
In terms of pure mic skills there's only a handful of nikkas in history who are really fukkin with Em

that being said I'd never even think about putting him in my top 5, technical ability aint everything. You can't have a decade long stretch of putting out a mediocre product the way Em has and still get a place on the Mount Rushmore of hip-hop.
 

Awesome Wells

The Ghost of Jack Tripper
Joined
Jun 20, 2012
Messages
10,963
Reputation
4,899
Daps
34,733
Reppin
Uptown, NYC
I think MMLP is highly debatable in regard to it being a classic album. I personally think it is. It's really the only album of his that I fukked with. Just couldn't get into the other joints as much.

And that's what I meant earlier in the thread. Dude's catalogue is mad shaky. He's got some really wack shyt out there. He goes from amazing to WTF throughout his whole career. That's why I think his spot is type questionable.
 

Suicide King

#OldBlack
Joined
May 13, 2012
Messages
4,902
Reputation
745
Daps
7,317
Top 5 is too high, but top 10 easily. He put out too much good music. Kim and Stan kills most of these guys catalog. SSLP, MMLP, and TES are too nice. All the rappers in the top have similar stats, no rapper has put out more than 3 stellar albums. He fits all the quota, plus he demolished all the features he was on the past 5 years.
 
Top