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Timing fam.

Here is the key issue. Iran had the firepower to beat the ENTIRE middle east, including Israel but because of 50 years of sanctions and propaganda, they could never be an "agressor" because everyone all over the world would gang up on them.

In the 12 day war, they tested to see if they could breach the iron dome and they did.

At that point, it was balls to the walls missiles and drones production 24/7.

Now the problem with technological advances is you cannot introduce new technology in an offensive war without massive repercussions. But because Israel and America not only attacked them during negotiations, but also assassinated their leader, they had all the political coverage to see what damage they really could do on the world stage.

They had 3 questions that needed to be answered that would be impossible without outside agression to them.

1. Can we shut down the Straight of Hormuz? Who would oppose us?
2. Can we overwhelm the COMBINED missile defense of the ENTIRE middle east?
3. Can we make life completely untenable in Israel for the settlers?

No.1 was the only one they were SURE of because they did it before.

No.2 required amazing political coverage. In the 12 day war, every country helped shoot down missiles "in their airspace" but didn't shoot down Israeli jets "in their airspace."

So from a logical perspective, if you want to bomb Israel, you must first make sure no one interferes.

After 3 weeks of relentless harassment, all the gulf states are now extremely low on supplies and are only caring about themselves. Meanwhile, the US is stripping allies around the world of their air defenses to protect the only country that owns them, Israel.

No.2 is now considered a MASSIVE success.

no.3 Now that all anti missile and drone defenses across the region are spent, Iran has now targeted key infastructure in Israel. Power, Nuclear research facilities, all airports. Spacing out missile barrages so they are constantly in alert and hiding in bunkers.

Life is MISERABLE in Israel right now andits so bad that when they tried to invade Lebanon, they got bodied by Hesbollah because Morale is so low. People are deserting because they have no protection from missiles and drones.

No. 3 is becoming the new reality.

If Iran survives this war with no conditions on them, the gulf states will no longer work closely with America, Iran will instantly propel to super power status, controlling most of the middle east, and the gulf states will form a pact with Iran so they can no longer be sanctioned as they will all sell their oil as a collective from now on.

Why?

Because Iran no longer has to accept being the bullied kid on the block. If I suffer, all suffer, so its best we all get along from now on.

Trump being a weak and compromised leader is the soul reason Israel will no longer exist. Every other president kept those racist asshats in check but he let them do whatever they want.


Biden was a big problem too but Biden always stopped them from expanding the war.
 

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Timing fam.

Here is the key issue. Iran had the firepower to beat the ENTIRE middle east, including Israel but because of 50 years of sanctions and propaganda, they could never be an "agressor" because everyone all over the world would gang up on them.

In the 12 day war, they tested to see if they could breach the iron dome and they did.

At that point, it was balls to the walls missiles and drones production 24/7.

Now the problem with technological advances is you cannot introduce new technology in an offensive war without massive repercussions. But because Israel and America not only attacked them during negotiations, but also assassinated their leader, they had all the political coverage to see what damage they really could do on the world stage.

They had 3 questions that needed to be answered that would be impossible without outside agression to them.

1. Can we shut down the Straight of Hormuz? Who would oppose us?
2. Can we overwhelm the COMBINED missile defense of the ENTIRE middle east?
3. Can we make life completely untenable in Israel for the settlers?

No.1 was the only one they were SURE of because they did it before.

No.2 required amazing political coverage. In the 12 day war, every country helped shoot down missiles "in their airspace" but didn't shoot down Israeli jets "in their airspace."

So from a logical perspective, if you want to bomb Israel, you must first make sure no one interferes.

After 3 weeks of relentless harassment, all the gulf states are now extremely low on supplies and are only caring about themselves. Meanwhile, the US is stripping allies around the world of their air defenses to protect the only country that owns them, Israel.

No.2 is now considered a MASSIVE success.

no.3 Now that all anti missile and drone defenses across the region are spent, Iran has now targeted key infastructure in Israel. Power, Nuclear research facilities, all airports. Spacing out missile barrages so they are constantly in alert and hiding in bunkers.

Life is MISERABLE in Israel right now andits so bad that when they tried to invade Lebanon, they got bodied by Hesbollah because Morale is so low. People are deserting because they have no protection from missiles and drones.

No. 3 is becoming the new reality.

If Iran survives this war with no conditions on them, the gulf states will no longer work closely with America, Iran will instantly propel to super power status, controlling most of the middle east, and the gulf states will form a pact with Iran so they can no longer be sanctioned as they will all sell their oil as a collective from now on.

Why?

Because Iran no longer has to accept being the bullied kid on the block. If I suffer, all suffer, so its best we all get along from now on.

Trump being a weak and compromised leader is the soul reason Israel will no longer exist. Every other president kept those racist asshats in check but he let them do whatever they want.


Biden was a big problem too but Biden always stopped them from expanding the war.
I definitely think your assessment is at the minimum the worst case scenario for America and a reason "we cant leave" though all the political will is to leave. Israel has Trump by the balls so he is going to get Americans killed over there. Your three questions are absolutely right, the more the US assassinates Iran's leadership the more its pretty clear that their goals are bigger than going back to the status quo, they are legit trying to change how the Middle East operates. Them getting paid for ships to travel through the strait says they run that shyt.

The only issue is I think is that between the Kurds and the Shia/Sunni conflict there is no clean way for Iran to become the defacto power. The Saudi's and Israel will nuke them before they let that happen. Though if it comes to that you might see such a fast forward push to solar and nuclear power and withdrawal from the region that it might all go back to the Stone Age.
 

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I definitely think your assessment is at the minimum the worst case scenario for America and a reason "we cant leave" though all the political will is to leave. Israel has Trump by the balls so he is going to get Americans killed over there. Your three questions are absolutely right, the more the US assassinates Iran's leadership the more its pretty clear that their goals are bigger than going back to the status quo, they are legit trying to change how the Middle East operates. Them getting paid for ships to travel through the strait says they run that shyt.

The only issue is I think is that between the Kurds and the Shia/Sunni conflict there is no clean way for Iran to become the defacto power. The Saudi's and Israel will nuke them before they let that happen. Though if it comes to that you might see such a fast forward push to solar and nuclear power and withdrawal from the region that it might all go back to the Stone Age.

Not necessarily. Iran will become Turkey status.

A place you don't fukk with and for the most part, is a peaceful neighbor.

The writing is on the wall for the gulf states. They either all work together with Iran or Iran drags everyone into the stone age.

Israel is the only country dumb enough to think nuking will help anything. All it will do is expedite their demise. Their won't be a massive nuclear world war, but all of europe will cut ties completely, Iran still wont quit, because you can't nuke a country the size for 3 TEXASes. It is a symbolic attack that cost Israel way more than they can afford. If Iranians are not running from missiles blowing up building right next to them and their kids, what do you think a nuke will do besides turn the entire region into an anti-israel bloodbath.
 

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All thanks to Donald Trump. He passed the baton of greatness to the Powers Persian Principalities. All Hail Iran - the True lion of Judah :salute:All Hail Iran - the True lion of Judah
 
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