If Kamala had won....

[Ghost Utmost]

Incredible

Some of y'all still shytting on Kamala and the Democratic party. Y'all like some battered wives when it comes to Trump and the open racists. Something attractive to you about abuse.

The epidemic that will bring this country down is pure stupidity.

To answer the question: what we are seeing and are about to see would have been avoided and Trump would prolly be a thing of the past by the time this term is over.

The way it stands now the Repubs are going to fuk shyt up for years to come even if we get them out the paint in 28.. which we might not have a chance to. I still think they rigged this election.

 

[Vandelay]

Part of me wants to believe that the maggots need to really feel pain for their decisions... U really do love FAFO. I really love the leopards eating faces.

But they been making bad decisions about economic and cultural politics since at least Rutherford B Hayes. Everytime they elect one of them, their own lives get worst.

And the other side, "our side", will do anything for power. Not making things better, but power. Power by any means necessary.

And to get that power they have done the worst.

Where would we be if Clinton didn't do NAFTA? What about ending welfare? We would not have had the world financial crisis if he didn't deregulate derivatives trading.

So they sent jobs to Mexico and made it possible to do really massive bets on fake math - where the debts of the bets were 500% of the underlying loans. They could have paid off the mortgages and made citizens whole, but instead made sure "Big Short" fat cats could keep their mansions. But at least we got a rebranded Republican health plan that missed some of the vital features that made it work.....

And why did he move to right economically? because the Dems wanted to return to power, and were willing to work with the people "across the aisle".

I don't even follow politics too tough (for my town at least), but they they talk minutiae of who to run in what race, or talk about eliminating parking minimums and bike lanes.

Do these people live in the same world that I do? Do they not have memories? Do they not have a sense of morality?

None of y'all probably remember this but this was in 2015

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Conveniently forgotten.

Wrong is wrong.

But because these things are shaped and decided by people that will never feel the downside....

Are we ever gonna have a government, politicians that aren't the lesser of two evils?

Can average black people ever have someone that's straight up good? And then actually does straight up good?

Can they at least run somebody like that just to say they've done it and it didn't work?

What's wild is I used to think NAFTA and Globalization was a net good. It gave other countries stake in the game and raised the standard of living for many countries. I still think some industries should be outsourced, but we wholesale moved 80% of our manufacturing abroad to have cheap consumer goods, think clothing, electronics, food, toys, etc; things that aren't necessities.

We did this at the expense of things that are necessities; housing, cars, energy, healthcare. It's not a perfect inverse correlation, but they are strongly correlated and dare I say, borderline causatory. The former is discretionary wants, nothing that keeps me whole day to day.

I would sooner trade 3 TV's and 2 months of different clothes everyday of the week for affordable housing, healthcare that doesn't have you second-guessing an emergency room visit, and whether or not I keep my thermostat at 62° for an entire Chicago winter.

I was ready to challenge you on your democrats want power for the sake of power. After thinking on it, you are absolutely correct. They're just more covert versus many less principled republicans. Democrats today are essentially 90s republicans and it started with old Billy Boy. One of my biggest disdains with Kamala Harris is, I don't think she believes in anything, or so little that she is malleable to the highest bidder as long as it doesn't compromise some of the social tenants of the democratic platform, like Trans rights or DEI.

I hate this term because it sounds like I'm conferring with MAGA, but it's virtue-signaling politics. I'm a supporter of equal rights for everyone, even if I don't understand the lifestyle, but the stuff that democrats are willing to die for impact such a small portion of the population. The New Left is the only group who in my opinion tries to champion everyone.

And generally the New Left understands everyday issues better because either they aren't lifetime politicians or they generally don't get big donor money. Until politician becomes temporary civil service for the greater good of the population, this system will continue to persist and erode everyone's standard of living, because there's a negative financial incentive to preserve your job, and you preserve your job by raising donor money, not addressing the overarching public concerns.

 

[Givethanks]

Looks up Mark Carney. Sees previous jobs. yeah you man wasn't saved. It didn't matter who won they were still taking you down the same path you are currently on.

if we’re getting going down, I’d rather it be by someone who’s read a few balance sheets than someone trying to balance vibez.

 

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I can't believe that many on thecoli are still salty that Kamala lost.

These out-of-touch dudes are still doing this for Kamala:

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

There is a huge sense of dread in the air. Democrats being feckless allowed this to happen. They still aren’t galvanizing against this. That party is weak and everyone sees it.

They are in tune with what’s happening and content with it.

Sounds like you’re saying @#BOTHSIDES

 

[RickyDiBiase]

I know these next 3 years are going to be an elephant diarrhea shyt show, but... Anyone ever think maybe we might need to go through this to reassess our priorities? The country and people in general were on a crash course.

Even with Kamala, this country in general was on a bad path. Although Trump is a completely different anomaly, he's also exposing the rot that was sitting just beneath the surface.

We're not going back to a 1945-2024 America. We can do what we want with that if we ever get out from under baby hands vice grip.

Worst case scenario we just end up like Turkey or Brazil

 

[Born2BKing]

Ugggh why is people tagging me... y'all seeing only the bad... and yes its bad but think of the mask is slipped and this country being exposed to the world on a grand stage...THIS is a good thing this was inevitable. kamala would have literally been just a band aid. we would have been pushed down and forgotten and the dems would have flooded the country with illegals to supplant us. The rise of trump was inevitable because of the way society was tipping... its not my fault the govt is corrupt and now we gotta pay the price for it...

I'm sure all the black folks who got laid off due to Trump agree with you. They are sitting home thinking this is a good thing.

 

[Born2BKing]

If she has won she would have continued the process / policies by Joe Biden, and probably accelerated this agenda. Because she’s from the same camp. The same way Joe took the baton from Obama, Kamala would have taken the baton for Joe.

They’ve made sure to exclude other camps within the Democratic Party. And that has hurt the Democratic Party.

Which policies of Biden hurt you?

 

[Ish Gibor]

Which policies of Biden hurt you?

None, because I am from overseas. His international politics align with that of the Netherlands. Because this country follows the Democratic party in the USA lock step, ever since the 1950s'.

I mostly base it on what Americans, and in particularly Black Americans say. And I have seen a sharp contrast in Black Republicans / conservatives vs Black Democrats / Liberals about what is going on in the States.

For example Trump's policies do hurt trade agreements and cause the rise of other social factors. Trump revoked travel visas, if some had something bad to say about Charlie Kirk.

Last week after Charlie Kirk was shot, far right extremist started to riot all over Europe, and in particular this country at The Hague.

Europe’s far-right leaders attack ‘hate-mongering left’ after Charlie Kirk murder

Viktor Orbán claims death of Turning Point USA’s founder was ‘result of international hate campaign’ as prominent figures pay tribute

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Anti-immigration demonstration in The Hague turns violent

An anti-immigration protest in The Hague, attended by hundreds, turned violent on Saturday as rioters clashed with police, set a car on fire and vandalised a political party's office.

www.euronews.com

"US Secretary of State Marco Rubio has warned that the Trump administration would revoke US visas of immigrants who "glorify" political killings like that of conservative activist Charlie Kirk. The top official of the Trump administration said it "makes no sense" to allow immigrants to stay in the country if they are going to engage in negative and destructive behaviour. "We should not be giving visas to people who are going to come to the United States and do things like celebrate the murder, the execution, the assassination of a political figure, we should not. And if they're already here, we should be revoking their visa," Rubio said"




"Violent anti-migrant protests erupted in The Hague, Netherlands, as thousands clashed with police, threw rocks and bottles and set a police car on fire. Demonstrators also vandalised the D66 party headquarters, leaving shattered windows and extensive damage inside. Police used tear gas and water cannons, arresting at least 30 people and treating injured officers. The unrest comes just weeks before the Netherlands' general election, highlighting growing tensions over migration. Similar demonstrations have previously occurred in London, Northern Ireland, and Poland, signalling a broader wave of anti-migrant unrest sweeping across Europe. Governments face mounting challenges as far-right activism and violent protests intensify across the continent."

 

[Ish Gibor]

I already stated the reason i.e population growth

So she was the best nominee the Dems had to offer, despite of having no primaries? You feel the Dems should continue this type of selection, by ignoring the voter base?

Because he won a higher but relatively small share of the independent voter's vote. he won in 2016 by less than 60k votes accross 3 swing states and despiute his victory over kamala seeming like a dominat wipe out, he still only received less than 2 percent higher vote share

The problem of non voters will continue to plight the democrat party and give republican the edge bevcause i genuinely beleieve that if all the non voters, 112 million of them, were forced/mandated to vote, majority of them would never vote trump. they will either vote democrat or 3rd party

Why was it the (Democratic) voter base preferred Bernie Sanders over Hillary Clinton?

 

[Jalether]

So she was the best nominee the Dems had to offer, despite of having no primaries? You feel the Dems should continue this type of selection, by ignoring the voter base?


Why was it the (Democratic) voter base preferred Bernie Sanders over Hillary Clinton?

No she wasn't and no one insinuated that she was but by the time Biden finally dropped out, it was too late to have a primary and the campaign apparatus of the democrat party (campaign staffers, research, donations etc) went to Kamala who was already part of the Biden 2024 campaign. In hindsight it was the wrong decision but the logic behind it at the time made sense

Biden is ultimately to blame for running for 2nd term

 

[WIA20XX]

So she was the best nominee the Dems had to offer, despite of having no primaries?

Kamala is only in that position because she made "race" points during a debate with Biden in 2019 - thus shoring up the most loyal members of the Democrats - Black Women. It was a cynical race-based pick then, and it backfired in their faces. Susan Rice, Gretchen Whitmer, and Elizabeth Warren were other choices, each with their own drawbacks.

Had Joe run in the democratic primary against Hillary....

But it was her turn....

 

[KillerPups]

nvda would be at 250

 

[Vandelay]

Worst case scenario we just end up like Turkey or Brazil

I think we have worse capabilities for a surveillance state than those countries given our marriage with corporations and the military industrial complex.

 

[Ol’Otis]

Can you nikkas shut the fukk up.....It's over

I hated this song so much
Kurupt must’ve been desperate