Lewis Black
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Deal with it.
If lebron wins this he is the co goat
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Deal with it.
Won't even come to that
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LeBron could win 2-3more chips and Id still never consider him the goat. Jordan's game is way more polished, he was more dominant and he never lost in the finals.
Bron averaged 17ppg in the 2011 finals. Jordan never scored under 20 in the finals ever.
Bron averaged 17ppg in the 2011 finals. Jordan never scored under 20 in the finals ever.
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If the Cavaliers don't win it's not going to be Lebron's fault.
It has nothing to do with Kyrie Irving being out.
It has to do with his teammates.
In Game 1, Thompson, James and Mosgov played well.
But JR Smith and Iman Shumpert were terrible.
I get that Cleveland was running a lot of isolation in Game 1, but even so, Smith and Shumpert (and even to a lesser degree Irving) just do not move without the ball. It's incredibly frustrating to watch. YOU HAVE TO MOVE WITHOUT THE BALL. They just stood around, especially in the 4th quarter when Lebron was on the bench.
I don't think Cleveland can win with those guys playing so lazy on the perimeter and with running isolation because you're basically forcing Lebron to score or else there's no rebound and 2nd chance opportunity.
I realize that Cleveland was still in the game, and probably could have won it. But Lebron can't score 44 every game of the finals.
What Cleveland should do is go hard at Draymond Green. They aren't going to be able to stop Steph or Klay but if they can get the big man in foul trouble, that's a huge factor because he's a beast.
It has nothing to do with Kyrie Irving being out.
It has to do with his teammates.
In Game 1, Thompson, James and Mosgov played well.
But JR Smith and Iman Shumpert were terrible.
I get that Cleveland was running a lot of isolation in Game 1, but even so, Smith and Shumpert (and even to a lesser degree Irving) just do not move without the ball. It's incredibly frustrating to watch. YOU HAVE TO MOVE WITHOUT THE BALL. They just stood around, especially in the 4th quarter when Lebron was on the bench.
I don't think Cleveland can win with those guys playing so lazy on the perimeter and with running isolation because you're basically forcing Lebron to score or else there's no rebound and 2nd chance opportunity.
I realize that Cleveland was still in the game, and probably could have won it. But Lebron can't score 44 every game of the finals.
What Cleveland should do is go hard at Draymond Green. They aren't going to be able to stop Steph or Klay but if they can get the big man in foul trouble, that's a huge factor because he's a beast.
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LeBron could win 2-3more chips and Id still never consider him the goat. Jordan's game is way more polished, he was more dominant and he never lost in the finals.
Bron averaged 17ppg in the 2011 finals. Jordan never scored under 20 in the finals ever.
Jordan's teams were usually stacked, when MJ retired, Bulls still won 50 games.
This GOAT stuff is bullshyt.
If you are 60 years old, you probably consider Wilt or Russell to be the best ever.
If you're 35-50, you probably think MJ is the best ever. But MJ had the added benefit of coming into his prime at the same time that the marketing/media/hype machine came into prominence. There were no "I wanna be like Wilt" campaigns in the 1960s.
If you're under 35 you probably think Kobe is the best ever.
Lebron also suffers a bit because people in this era don't see the greatness of a bigger, more powerful player. The last 30 years have seen the great players often being seen as Guards. Julius Erving, Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant...
People don't appreciate guys like Tim Duncan, Lebron James, Karl Malone....powerful taller players who don't necessarily exhibit flashy crossovers and stuff like that.
But it's funny to me though. There are guys on the coli who complain that Timmy and Lebron aren't exciting to watch...but scream about how Floyd Mayweather Jr is the best ever, as if he's giving the fans exciting Arturo Gatti-esque battles in the ring...rather than landing 8-16 for 36 minutes and just flat-out beating his opponents.
Originalgangsta317
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Originalgangsta317
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LeBron could win 2-3more chips and Id still never consider him the goat. Jordan's game is way more polished, he was more dominant and he never lost in the finals.
Bron averaged 17ppg in the 2011 finals. Jordan never scored under 20 in the finals ever.
Hater,fukkin hater
Originalgangsta317
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Bron>>>>>>Duncan
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Cavs not winning this series against GS but I don't think Lebron's legacy will be tainted unless he shows disinterest in the remaining games