If Max B took that plea deal in 2009..

[straightcash]

1) I am talking about HIS actions...

2) But isn't it what you fan boys are trying to do, to reward him with freedom and an opportunity to be rich and famous, while another dude lost his life over bullshat...

3) Dude is EXACTLY where he needs to be...

So person A gets killed by B and C. So lets put person D in for life? That's your fukking logic.

On top of that, lets release B early cuz she put D in there. Release the killer early

His charges should be conspiracy to commit burglary and robbery, not conspiracy to commit murder.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

So person A gets killed by B and C. So lets put person D in for life? That's your fukking logic.

On top of that, lets release B early cuz she put D in there. Release the killer early

His charges should be conspiracy to commit burglary and robbery, not conspiracy to commit murder.

1) The law was written before Max B broke it and was punished accordingly for it...

2)

So person A gets killed by B and C. So lets put person D in for life? That's your fukking logic.

On top of that, lets release B early cuz she put D in there. Release the killer early

His charges should be conspiracy to commit burglary and robbery, not conspiracy to commit murder.

1) Let us put this in perspective...

2) I send two guys to break into your house and rob you, you try to defend yourself, in the process, somebody you love gets murdered...

3) Are you saying that the worst charge I should get is conspiracy for theft...Do one year in jail and one year probation and go back to my life...?

Are you saying that every time you hear me rap about robberies, catching bodies, and toasting to the good life, you WILL NOT feel some type of way?

Are you saying that when my fans hero worship for being a shot caller and being "about that life" you will not feel a certain type of way?

4) Conclusion, Max B conspired to have a another Human Being KILLED...Yes, his intention was murder because he sent people with guns...If he was just "shop lifting" or "pick pocketing" it would be a different thing...

When you have guns and a plan, and somebody gets killed...It is HOMICIDE or Proxy Homicide...He got what was coming to him...

 

[head shots101]

that's another thing that had me heated during his trial. breh was steadily on wshh, trying to beef with nikkas, flossing, smoking, counting stacks on camera. just about everything you shouldn't be doing when they're trying to throw you under the jail.

any competent lawyer would have told dude to chill the fukk out and lay low. but instead of spending money on a good lawyer, this dude let some rookie represent him cus his services were free

Max was taking that shyt too lightly b

 

[straightcash]

1) The law was written before Max B broke it and was punished accordingly for it...

2)

1) Let us put this in perspective...

2) I send two guys to break into your house and rob you, you try to defend yourself, in the process, somebody you love gets murdered...

3) Are you saying that the worst charge I should get is conspiracy for theft...Do one year in jail and one year probation and go back to my life...?

Well, if you commit the crime, then sure. Makes no sense if i grab your mom and put her in there. Or someone else who remotely had to do with the incident.

You're making laws up on your own. If there was a struggle, even on your orders, and somebody gets killed. That's not murder, that's manslaughter.

The girl and brother should be charged with manslaughter and robbery. Max should be charged with conspiracy to commit robbery. Murder comes into the equation, simply because one witness (the actual killer) says this whole thing was a conspiracy and that the killing aspect was part of it. You clearly have no interest in persecuting the actual perpetrators and punishing them accordingly, you're just using this for political theater.

Are you saying that every time you hear me rap about robberies, catching bodies, and toasting to the good life, you WILL NOT feel some type of way?

Are you saying that when my fans hero worship for being a shot caller and being "about that life" you will not feel a certain type of way?

The concept of justice and due process has nothing to do with your feelings bruh bruh.

4) Conclusion, Max B conspired to have a another Human Being KILLED...Yes, his intention was murder because he sent people with guns...If he was just "shop lifting" or "pick pocketing" it would be a different thing...

When you have guns and a plan, and somebody gets killed...It is HOMICIDE or Proxy Homicide...He got what was coming to him...

Because in your world a robbery or stickup is organized with guys with a snicker bar right? Some guy just demands money and you give it to them.

Weapons are used as a "threat" of violence. The possession of a weapon doesn't mean inevitable violence itself.

The constitution gives people the right to bear arms. So the weapon should not be the object demonized. Once again, you're in your feelings bruh bruh.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

Well, if you commit the crime, then sure. Makes no sense if i grab your mom and put her in there. Or someone else who remotely had to do with the incident.

You're making laws up on your own. If there was a struggle, even on your orders, and somebody gets killed. That's not murder, that's manslaughter.

The girl and brother should be charged with manslaughter and robbery. Max should be charged with conspiracy to commit robbery. Murder comes into the equation, simply because one witness (the actual killer) says this whole thing was a conspiracy and that the killing aspect was part of it. You clearly have no interest in persecuting the actual perpetrators and punishing them accordingly, you're just using this for political theater.



The concept of justice and due process has nothing to do with your feelings bruh bruh.



Because in your world a robbery or stickup is organized with guys with a snicker bar right? Some guy just demands money and you give it to them.

Weapons are used as a "threat" of violence. The possession of a weapon doesn't mean inevitable violence itself.

The constitution gives people the right to bear arms. So the weapon should not be the object demonized. Once again, you're in your feelings bruh bruh.

1) I am NOT in my feelings...In fact, I am the opposite...Dude broke the law as IT IS WRITTEN....And he got the book thrown at him...That is as COLD as it gets...

2) The people who want him free are the ones in their "feelings"...

3) Conclusion, Did Max B break the law? yes, and he was convicted for it....Was the punishment he received according to the law? yes...Is he where he is suppose to be? yes...

Where are the "feelings?" ....I am by the book on this one...

 

[straightcash]

1) I am NOT in my feelings...In fact, I am the opposite...Dude broke the law as IT IS WRITTEN....And he got the book thrown at him...That is as COLD as it gets...

2) The people who want him free are the ones in their "feelings"...

3) Conclusion, Did Max B break the law? yes, and he was convicted for it....Was the punishment he received according to the law? yes...Is he where he is suppose to be? yes...

Where are the "feelings?" ....I am by the book on this one...

Technically he wasn't even in the same jurisdiction as whatever "the law" in Jersey is.

The whole thing is based on hearsay (testimony). So its entirely about "feelings" (subjectivity).

I don't think you've even seen the book. Since you can't tell murder apart from manslaughter. Once again, if there's a struggle (which you mentioned) leading to a death, that's manslaughter not murder.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

Technically he wasn't even in the same jurisdiction as whatever "the law" in Jersey is.

The whole thing is based on hearsay (testimony). So its entirely about "feelings" (subjectivity).

I don't think you've even seen the book. Since you can't tell murder apart from manslaughter. Once again, if there's a struggle leading to a death, that's manslaughter not murder.

1) "Technically"...Either it is or it isn't...And what does it matter, if you are in New York and you order a hit in New Jersey, you can't go to jail for that...?

2) No..His accomplices pointed him out...Those are the people who were involved in the crime..That's not hearsay...Hearsay is when people say things like "I went to that Motel because John told me that is what Max B wanted us to do"...That is hearsay...

If you are involved in the crime and you say, "I went there because Max B himself sent me there" then that's SNITCHING...It is NOT about feelings...It is a matter fact...

3) I think you are the one who DOES NOT know the definition of manslaughter vs felony homicide according to US law...Max B was RIGHTFULLY convicted of murder conspiracy...

Dude conspired to have another Human Being killed...He made calls. made arrangements, gave information on the victims location etc...He was the "master mind"...

That is how the Prosecution interpreted it, and that's how a jury understood it...I agree with the conviction...

4) Unless you are a lawyer, I am done with this discussion...Max B is exactly where he is because of his own actions...If he wasn't a HATER, then he wouldn't be looking at 75 years...

Let us take the "feelings" out of it, as you suggested....Who is ULTIMATELY responsible for Max B...Max B...Why is Max B in jail? because Max B made decisions that landed him there...

5) The chances of me EVER being convicted of murder or murder conspiracy are ZERO...Why? because I am responsible for my own life, and I am not plotting to have other people killed during robberies...Period.

No feelings...Straight up taking responsibility for my own thoughts and behavior...

 

[International S.]

2) I send two guys to break into your house and rob you, you try to defend yourself, in the process, somebody you love gets murdered...

3) Are you saying that the worst charge I should get is conspiracy for theft...Do one year in jail and one year probation and go back to my life...?

Are you saying that every time you hear me rap about robberies, catching bodies, and toasting to the good life, you WILL NOT feel some type of way?

Are you saying that when my fans hero worship for being a shot caller and being "about that life" you will not feel a certain type of way?

4) Conclusion, Max B conspired to have a another Human Being KILLED...Yes, his intention was murder because he sent people with guns...If he was just "shop lifting" or "pick pocketing" it would be a different thing...

When you have guns and a plan, and somebody gets killed...It is HOMICIDE or Proxy Homicide...He got what was coming to him...

I'm starting to see your perspective...

The only issue I have with it is ...1)if you feel that deeply about what happened to your family member/loved one...wouldn't prison time... no matter the amount... feel a little insignificant compared to the loss and suffering felt by you and your family?

2) If your aiming for a man to be sentenced 75 years as a form of revenge/punishment don't that make you straight p*ssy?

if you killed (or had anything to do with) my brother in his hotel room I don't want you to go to prison at all, I want you to think everything is sweet, celebrate, pop bottles and flick it up with everybody, get some p*ssy and think "it's time to get back to my life" then once you leave that bytches apartment...


fukk I look like waiting for the system to punish the nikka that got my mom crying...
How do you feel like a man waiting on white daddy to do what you too p*ssy to do.. either me or one of my nikkas or one of my brothers nikkas is gonna see to it that you get clapped over that shyt...
the way of revenge/punishment your speaking of is appropriate for a ... well you know

"He got what was coming to him"ole legal eagle ass nikka

 

[straightcash]

1) "Technically"...Either it is or it isn't...And what does it matter, if you are in New York and you order a hit in New Jersey, you can't go to jail for that...?

2) No..His accomplices pointed him out...Those are the people who were involved in the crime..That's not hearsay...Hearsay is when people say things like "I went to that Motel because John told me that is what Max B wanted us to do"...That is hearsay...

If you are involved in the crime and you say, "I went there because Max B himself sent me there" then that's SNITCHING...It is NOT about feelings...It is a matter fact...

3) I think you are the one who DOES NOT know the definition of manslaughter vs felony homicide according to US law...Max B was RIGHTFULLY convicted of murder conspiracy...

Dude conspired to have another Human Being killed...He made calls. made arrangements, gave information on the victims location etc...He was the "master mind"...

That is how the Prosecution interpreted it, and that's how a jury understood it...I agree with the conviction...

4) Unless you are a lawyer, I am done with this discussion...Max B is exactly where he is because of his own actions...If he wasn't a HATER, then he wouldn't be looking at 75 years...

Let us take the "feelings" out of it, as you suggested....Who is ULTIMATELY responsible for Max B...Max B...Why is Max B in jail? because Max B made decisions that landed him there...

5) The chances of me EVER being convicted of murder or murder conspiracy are ZERO...Why? because I am responsible for my own life, and I am not plotting to have other people killed during robberies...Period.

No feelings...Straight up taking responsibility for my own thoughts and behavior...

You responded to my three or four lines with a thesis paper. Sure you ain't in your feelings.

That is how the Prosecution interpreted it, and that's how a jury understood it...I agree with the conviction...

4) Unless you are a lawyer, I am done with this discussion...

This point stood out to me tho.

You don't wanna proceed if im not a lawyer. Which im fine with. But you speaking bout the jury/prosecution's interpretation like you were in the court room.

Your logical leaps are only matched by your massive inconsistencies.

 

[eastsideTT]

max really has spent most of his adult life behind bars. its crazy what he accomplished and the buzz he built in the short amount of time he was out. hes doing time in NJ. I dont think any time is easy time, but im sure it'd be a little easier for him if he was in the ny system.

whether he was getting real money is anyones guess. but went hard those couple years he was free and built a huge buzz. people like that amaze me, who come home from doing a bid and accomplish more in 6 months than a lot of aspiring rappers do in their whole career. like ra diggs kinda did or albee al is doing now. if only they could all stay out of trouble ...

what ever happend to young los though? he did a lot of beats for max b, some of his best songs came from young los. i hope hes still working

 

[straightcash]

At the end of the day, Max gon be in der for another 70 years. Gina Conway getting off in 10. She didn't even give the loot to Max, gave it to her bouncer.

The story is so fukked up, and most people don't even read into the shyt, so wayy to many people calling Max a murderer when even the court never called him that. The only solution is to release a movie. That's the only wayy to generate awareness and actually get something positive out of the whole situation.

Its actually a solid script. I'm baffled why they haven't tried this route yet. Then again, French is shooting two movies (Respect The Shooter). So maybe once he gets that foot into Hollywood, something might be on the table.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

You responded to my three or four lines with a thesis paper. Sure you ain't in your feelings.




This point stood out to me tho.

You don't wanna proceed if im not a lawyer. Which im fine with. But you speaking bout the jury/prosecution's interpretation like you were in the court room.

Your logical leaps are only matched by your massive inconsistencies.

1) The fact that I am responding with a "thesis paper" to me is a sign that I am NOT in my "feelings" and I am trying to have a serious debate...

2) The reason I said that is because if you are a lawyer, then I have NO BUSINESS questioning you, because you would know the law more than I do...Basically, I am smart enough to know my limits and to show respect to those who have dedicated their lives in the pursuit to acquire a specialty knowledge...

3) I am not making "logical leaps"...My argument has been consistent and based on the DEFINITIONS of manslaughter and felony homicide as described in Wikipedia...

Basically, if the prosecution made the case, that means they had grounds to make such a case, and OBVIOUSLY their case was strong enough to put Max B away for the rest of his life...

4) I recognize that MOST posters here don't read past the first line...Here are your own words "You responded to my three or four lines with a thesis paper"

Basically, you are NOT authentic and you don't really want to have a serious informative discussion...

 

[nineteeneightysix]

At the end of the day, Max gon be in der for another 70 years. Gina Conway getting off in 10. She didn't even give the loot to Max, gave it to her bouncer.

The story is so fukked up, and most people don't even read into the shyt, so wayy to many people calling Max a murderer when even the court never called him that. The only solution is to release a movie. That's the only wayy to generate awareness and actually get something positive out of the whole situation.

Its actually a solid script. I'm baffled why they haven't tried this route yet. Then again, French is shooting two movies (Respect The Shooter). So maybe once he gets that foot into Hollywood, something might be on the table.

1) That only reflects on how stupid Max B was...He organized a robbery that got somebody killed, and in turn he gets 75 years and somebody else gets to enjoy the money...Idiot...

2) He was convicted in a Murder conspiracy charge....The American law states that if you commit arm robbery and somebody dies, then you are liable for felony murder, and since Max B organized the whole thing, he gets Murder Conspiracy...

It doesn't matter if he was there or not...The only thing the prosecution had to prove was that he was involved in the orchestration of a robbery that went bad and somebody died...

The people who pulled the trigger testified against Max B...

3) Dude is GUILTY...Unless you believe some random stick up kids just accused him for no reason, so they can get a lenient charge...What are the probabilities of that?

The law was written before Max B decided to do what he did...

 

[straightcash]

1) That only reflects on how stupid Max B was...He organized a robbery that got somebody killed, and in turn he gets 75 years and somebody else gets to enjoy the money...Idiot...

2) He was convicted in a Murder conspiracy charge....The American law states that if you commit arm robbery and somebody dies, then you are liable for felony murder, and since Max B organized the whole thing, he gets Murder Conspiracy...

It doesn't matter if he was there or not...The only thing the prosecution had to prove was that he was involved in the orchestration of a robbery that went bad and somebody died...

The people who pulled the trigger testified against Max B...

3) Dude is GUILTY...Unless you believe some random stick up kids just accused him for no reason, so they can get a lenient charge...What are the probabilities of that?

The law was written before Max B decided to do what he did...

What all this gotta do with my movie idea tho? People don't die in movies? Now you just ranting n shyt. I'm tryna gett off the legal subject.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

What all this gotta do with my movie idea tho? People don't die in movies? Now you just ranting n shyt. I'm tryna gett off the subject.

1) I am telling you that the court DID in fact convict him of Murder Conspiracy, and that in essence is a felony murder charge...

Basically, he was convicted the same way a husband or wife who hires a hitman to kill his or her partner would be convicted...Conspiracy to commit murder...It is the same as if he had pulled the trigger himself...

That is what I am clarifying for you...He is NOT innocent or wrongfully in jail...He is a scumbag hater whose actions led to the death of another man...