If Max B took that plea deal in 2009..

[The Devil's Advocate]

max' show money was enough to pay for a good lawyer.

Are you sure of this? Do you know how many shows he had? Do you know what he was getting paid?

Do you know what other bills he had besides a lawyer. Like kids, wife, rent, car note, taxes?


I'm not saying it's not possible. I'm just saying stop believing these rappers. nikkas sell plat and really have zero dollars after bills

It's not impossible to think a mixtape rapper who never had a hit or an album (people didn't know he wrote balling and it wasn't his song anyway) is broke.

Especially when he couldn't even afford bail.

Especially when he signed over his pub and all his rights to jimmy to get out


I def remember French crying on the radio about jim and how max couldn't get any bread cause that deal

 

[Frida Giezman]

Whose gonna defend the "victims". The second dude who lived, got arrested himself. It was one group of goons jumping another goon who already got set up by a third group.

The victims (2 dudes) were scammers. Who got setup by 2 hoes (who had the drop on 'em). Then Max's group had the drop on the first group (and didn't know there was a second group).

Max's bytch and brother who were on their way (from NY to NJ) just to burglarize the hotel they were staying at. She was high the whole time, so they drove around in circles before reaching the location. Then when they broke in, turns out one of the dudes and one of the hoes were in the room (they came back in).

So the burglary turned into a robbery. Then the second dude and hoe walked in. And then that robbery turned into manslaughter.

Of course, the bytch decided to throw Max under the bus. Saying Max "conspired" the whole thing. So the manslaughter turns into a murder. And max gets charged with conspiracy to commit murder.

That is the gist of the whole story. People saying "Max is a murderer" are fuking retarded cuz not even the court saying that. Court says he's "conspired", cuz the nikka wasn't even in the same state, nevermind the same room.

He got hit with felony murder

Because he was a co-conspirator in a felony that resulted in a murder

Max's girl and brother didn't go there to commit burglary, they went there to commit an armed robbery

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

"Jim [Jones], all of them. They was just fukking it up. They was under this impression—I think they all adopted this from Cam’ron—they were all into this impression that the new guys must pay the dues," said Max B, who co-wrote Jones' biggest hit to date in "We Fly High (Ballin')." Max remembers stating his frustrations, after he was reportedly receiving $300 for his role in shows. "'Number one: I [write] all the fukking records around here. Number two: all the records we producing in the studio—these are fukking singles you puttin’ out, radio spins! Where’s my shyt? Why when I go perform at a show, and you making excess amount of dollars, you making [$10-15,000] how the fukk is you giving me $300? I'm doing eight, nine fukking records! I'm out here sweatin’ too! When you got drama and beef in different cities, and motherfukkers is throwing chairs on the stage—they throwin’ them shyts at me too! I want money.' This is what all the beef start stemmin’ from."

While shows were one place of tensions, The Byrdgang's ensemble recording schedules were another. "There was arguments, there was disrespect every night in the studio. To where, I didn't want to go in. Some nights he had to call me: 'Yo, come and work.' 'I don’t wanna go. I don’t like this shyt no more.'"

"I got out on bail in 2007, summertime. My bail was like $1.5 million," recalls Max B who spent early 2007 in Bergen County Jail awaiting trial for the murder charges he was later convicted of. "No way I think I'm gettin’ out. I'm thinking, 'Who’s gonna come get me.' But we found a way. My tangible songs, I was able to sell some publishing to those, for some money. When I got out of prison, my buzz got bigger, I became more recognized." The tensions still existed in the studio, despite Max's dire legal woes. "And when I came home this time, it was the same thing with these guys in the studio. No recognition, like, 'Come on, give me my proper due. Where’s the etiquette here?'"







300 a show before jail. No money really except for Jim. Go to jail. 1.5 mil in bail which is only 150k. Has to sell pub to all his song. He left out that it was to Jim tho. Then goes right back to Jim and back to no money


It wasn't until a little after jail was he saying fukk Jim and getting his own money. But how broke was he by then?

I mean just think. If dude had money. Would he be involved in this robbery

 

[Frida Giezman]

And I think they offered max 15 years not 10

He still should have took the plea considering what he was up against but unfortunately he was only thinking about his rap career when he decided to go to trial

 

[Frida Giezman]

"Jim [Jones], all of them. They was just fukking it up. They was under this impression—I think they all adopted this from Cam’ron—they were all into this impression that the new guys must pay the dues," said Max B, who co-wrote Jones' biggest hit to date in "We Fly High (Ballin')." Max remembers stating his frustrations, after he was reportedly receiving $300 for his role in shows. "'Number one: I [write] all the fukking records around here. Number two: all the records we producing in the studio—these are fukking singles you puttin’ out, radio spins! Where’s my shyt? Why when I go perform at a show, and you making excess amount of dollars, you making [$10-15,000] how the fukk is you giving me $300? I'm doing eight, nine fukking records! I'm out here sweatin’ too! When you got drama and beef in different cities, and motherfukkers is throwing chairs on the stage—they throwin’ them shyts at me too! I want money.' This is what all the beef start stemmin’ from."

While shows were one place of tensions, The Byrdgang's ensemble recording schedules were another. "There was arguments, there was disrespect every night in the studio. To where, I didn't want to go in. Some nights he had to call me: 'Yo, come and work.' 'I don’t wanna go. I don’t like this shyt no more.'"

"I got out on bail in 2007, summertime. My bail was like $1.5 million," recalls Max B who spent early 2007 in Bergen County Jail awaiting trial for the murder charges he was later convicted of. "No way I think I'm gettin’ out. I'm thinking, 'Who’s gonna come get me.' But we found a way. My tangible songs, I was able to sell some publishing to those, for some money. When I got out of prison, my buzz got bigger, I became more recognized." The tensions still existed in the studio, despite Max's dire legal woes. "And when I came home this time, it was the same thing with these guys in the studio. No recognition, like, 'Come on, give me my proper due. Where’s the etiquette here?'"







300 a show before jail. No money really except for Jim. Go to jail. 1.5 mil in bail which is only 150k. Has to sell pub to all his song. He left out that it was to Jim tho. Then goes right back to Jim and back to no money


It wasn't until a little after jail was he saying fukk Jim and getting his own money. But how broke was he by then?

I mean just think. If dude had money. Would he be involved in this robbery

It definitley seemed like he was getting money during his case

He put out a lot of mixtapes during that time and was touring the northeast doing small club venues

 

[straightcash]

He got hit with felony murder

Because he was a co-conspirator in a felony that resulted in a murder

Max's girl and brother didn't go there to commit burglary, they went there to commit an armed robbery

According to the defense, and various sources, a burglary has been cited. Its entirely up to people to believe or disbelieve the claim, but the defense maintains intent to burglarize which of course ended up botched on several levels. Even court papers mention "burglary" in a few instances.

If you set someone up to get robbed and they are killed in the process everyone is going down for that death. It doesn't matter if you personally weren't there or didn't "plan" to kill him. There are dudes doing 30 years in prison just for being a look out

Its bad if the lookout were to get life, and the guy who shot the trigger gets off in a few years. You want everyone to go down, face justice. Great. But justice should be dealt accordingly. Not pulling sentences out of a hat.

Of course, the state doesn't give a shyt about justice or reparations. Those who cooperate with the state and show fielty, get rewarded. Those who don't, pay up. So indeed, a killer would get a lesser punishment than a non-killing actor. Just like a guy caught with weed or dope three times will get life, while a murderer or rapist gets off in a few decades. This is literally happening. Its about control.

 

[Frida Giezman]

According to the defense, and various sources, a burglary has been cited. Its entirely up to people to believe or disbelieve the claim, but the defense maintains intent to burglarize which of course ended up botched on several levels. Even court papers mention "burglary" in a few instances.




Its bad if the lookout were to get life, and the guy who shot the trigger gets off in a few years. You want everyone to go down, face justice. Great. But justice should be dealt accordingly. Not pulling sentences out of a hat.

Of course, the state doesn't give a shyt about justice or reparations. Those who cooperate with the state and show fielty, get rewarded. Those who don't, pay up. So indeed, a killer would get a lesser punishment than a non-killing actor. Just like a guy caught with weed or dope three times will get life, while a murderer or rapist gets off in a few decades. This is literally happening. Its about control.

I mean if a burglary is not a felony (I'm not sure) than you can see why the defense would use that as a defense since than you couldn't pin felony murder on max

If it is a felony than it really doesn't matter wether they went to nj with intent to commit an armed robbery or a burglary because someone died during the commission of a felony that max b was a co-conspirator in

And the end of the day max made his bed and unfortunately he has to lay in it

 

[BigIke]

Well, if you commit the crime, then sure. Makes no sense if i grab your mom and put her in there. Or someone else who remotely had to do with the incident.

You're making laws up on your own. If there was a struggle, even on your orders, and somebody gets killed. That's not murder, that's manslaughter.

The girl and brother should be charged with manslaughter and robbery. Max should be charged with conspiracy to commit robbery. Murder comes into the equation, simply because one witness (the actual killer) says this whole thing was a conspiracy and that the killing aspect was part of it. You clearly have no interest in persecuting the actual perpetrators and punishing them accordingly, you're just using this for political theater.



The concept of justice and due process has nothing to do with your feelings bruh bruh.



Because in your world a robbery or stickup is organized with guys with a snicker bar right? Some guy just demands money and you give it to them.

Weapons are used as a "threat" of violence. The possession of a weapon doesn't mean inevitable violence itself.

The constitution gives people the right to bear arms. So the weapon should not be the object demonized. Once again, you're in your feelings bruh bruh.

This dude just used the constitution to defend Max B...lol. You coli guys are too much..

 

[BigIke]

Lol you people are retarded. Max told his homies to go rob someone, it ain't his fault they murdered him.

So using your logic, If I know you can't swim and I proceeded to throw you in a deep pool, I cannot be held liable??? Since my intention was not to kill you...

 

[straightcash]

This dude just used the constitution to defend Max B...lol. You coli guys are too much..

Always been pro gun rights. You have problems understanding nuanced points brah? Having a gun does not equal evil. So saying "he had a gun, so that means intent to kill" is retarded. I'd say that even if it was a killer. Its the person at fault, not the tool.

Besides, the constitution is the first rights Max or any other persons have in this country. How is that supposed to be a pejorative? You never heard of the Bill of Rights? Do you even know what goes on in a courtroom?.. "Constitution does not apply" FOH with that bullshyt.

 

[Larry Lobster]

Life ain't fair oww oww.

 

[Positive Posting]

max really has spent most of his adult life behind bars. its crazy what he accomplished and the buzz he built in the short amount of time he was out. hes doing time in NJ. I dont think any time is easy time, but im sure it'd be a little easier for him if he was in the ny system.

whether he was getting real money is anyones guess. but went hard those couple years he was free and built a huge buzz. people like that amaze me, who come home from doing a bid and accomplish more in 6 months than a lot of aspiring rappers do in their whole career. like ra diggs kinda did or albee al is doing now. if only they could all stay out of trouble ...

what ever happend to young los though? he did a lot of beats for max b, some of his best songs came from young los. i hope hes still working

Young los working with french on mc4 he might have a joint on there.

I think after max got sentenced young los became real deppressed.

 

[straightcash]

Young los working with french on mc4 he might have a joint on there.

I think after max got sentenced young los became real deppressed.

Word? Where did you get this info from?

 

[Positive Posting]

Word? Where did you get this info from?

go to young los twitter, a while back he said he was working with french for mc4
and i assume he got depressed from reading young los twitter.

 

[straightcash]

go to young los twitter, a while back he said he was working with french for mc4
and i assume he got depressed from reading young los twitter.

Los got depressed from reading Los' twitter? Now im confused. (Edit: i get it now, you read Los' twitter)

In any case, he had one song one on Excuse My French. That "Hey My Guy" joint with French and Max. So either that means there's going be another Max B joint in this one, or its all bs. Because there's been other producers who were working on French's album but never ended up on it.