If MJ stayed retired where would he rank in the GOAT list?

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Jordan's career average at the time of that first retirement was like 32, 6 and 6
 

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if shaq stays in orlando like someone said than kobe only has two rings
 

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Not sure if this has been done yet (but i think everything about jordan has been done). If mj took the barry sanders route and stayed retired after 3 rings 3 finals mvp and i think 2 reg season mvps at that point and 1 space jam movie where would he be ranked on the GOAT list? Top 5? Top 10? 15? And how do you see those second 3peat years playing out? Do ewing, miller, malone etc... finally get one? Thoughts please.

Random MJ accomplishment. :laff:
 

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if MJ stayed retired in 93 then Kobe would be the GOAT right now with 5 rings

Like the poster above said; who's to say Shaq goes to LA and helps Kobe?

:krs: What if the Hornets keep Kobe? The Lakers woulda needed a big man.
 

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The Bulls were barely over .500 when Mike came back. Horace left and they werent' even trying to pay Scottie after 6 rings so I doubt they would have been coming up off that paper if Mike stayed gone so he prolly would've walked too. That said Messier's success without Gretzky doesn't affect how Wayne is viewed.

there is zero debate that gretzky is the goat though, and messier is second all times in points not like he was achump like pip
 

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Random MJ accomplishment. :laff:

Him beating the monstars is the single best display of GOATness ever to touch the hardwood. Dude beat that squad with an undersized bugs bunny as his #2 option and leading rebounder. Not to mention played every position also the coach started the game off as the center (in yo face magic) and shot 100% going 22 for 22 meanwhile kobe is shooting below 50 :comeon: No rebounds were recorded in the game by either team, a testament to the high levels of offensive efficiency on both sides. back in those days they really let the teams play there were no fouls during the entire game personally i think marvin the martian was paid off by the monstars boss to swallow the whistle but i digress becuz not even marvin the crooked ass martian can stop the heart of a champion. He had Bill Murray coming off the bench as the sixth man. Although we all acknowledge that Bill is a looney tune streetball legend and one of the best wing defenders of all time he was still past his prime at this point and was an offensive liability. You wanna talk about clutch? lebron playing or a ring and chokes meanwhile if the tunes squad loses the are forced into a life of servitude that mean MJ playing for freedom and after a terrible first half leads his squad to comeback on a 48-2 second half run. The GOAT stands alone.
 

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:why: what is people fascination with fukkin championship rings in team sports, I just cant understand it :why:

So kobe woulda been better than Jordan because finally then, he would have more rings than him ?? :why:


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:why: what is people fascination with fukkin championship rings in team sports, I just cant understand it :why:

So kobe woulda been better than Jordan because finally then, he would have more rings than him ?? :why:


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I dont think people would call kobe better than MJ just because he would have more rings. I think its moreso If jordan retires he is viewed in a different light. That would mean he been out the game 20 years so we dont have nearly as many memories of him doing GOAT shyt because of a smaller sample size. No flu game, no 72 win team or 69 win team, no byron russell game winner, no #45 black and red bulls jersey that made it cool to wear jerseys everywhere, all of his stats get reduced about 1/3.



and all this stuff never happens either


His resume just wouldnt be as impressive. Kobe would have passed him on all levels (not just championships) so he would be viewed as better because of it. Any thoughts of what MJ would have done is pure speculation no different than imagining what Benji Wilson could have been. Just a couple of chicago legends with promise unfulfilled.
 
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are we talking the first time when he went to baseball or 98?

if when he went to baseball...Barkley,Malone ,Stockton,miller,and Kemp would had rings
 

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