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If OKC wins the title, is it the hardest path to a 'ship in NBA History?
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that's poor logic. so essentially every team that won a championship didn't have THAT impressive of a run because the only team they beat that made the finals was the team they faced in the finals..
This.
They will have beat:
-The all-time most winningest regular season team in NBA history
-The team with the best home record in NBA history (40-1, tied with Celtics)
-The first unanimous MVP in NBA history
-Arguably the best 3-point shooter in NBA history
And they will have done that all with a rookie head coach... first time as a head coach in the NBA
Its between the 95 rockets and this OKC team. I live in OK and they are going crazy about this.
Those mentioning the 2011 Mavs... I get where you're coming from because of HOW the Mavs did it (sweeping the Lakers etc). But that's not the question.
The hardest path is the question, and OKC deserve that title.
This.
They will have beat:
-The all-time most winningest regular season team in NBA history
-The team with the best home record in NBA history (40-1, tied with Celtics)
-The first unanimous MVP in NBA history
-Arguably the best 3-point shooter in NBA history
And they will have done that all with a rookie head coach... first time as a head coach in the NBA
Its between the 95 rockets and this OKC team. I live in OK and they are going crazy about this.
Those mentioning the 2011 Mavs... I get where you're coming from because of HOW the Mavs did it (sweeping the Lakers etc). But that's not the question.
The hardest path is the question, and OKC deserve that title.
You really think GSW is going to let that happen? I want OKC to win but we're talking about GSW here.
Trust me they will come and try to win game 4. They've been in this position before when they were down 2-1, so I'm not counting them out yet and they will come out and play. Pray that RW doesn't revert back to his old ways and their role-player misses shots.
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that's poor logic. so essentially every team that won a championship didn't have THAT impressive of a run because the only team they beat that made the finals was the team they faced in the finals..
edit: I get it now
No what I'm saying is, dude based his point solely on record. And didn't make a single point about the makeup of the team
If you're going to base it solely on record, then playoff record needs to be factored in. Saying they are 73-9 in the reg season. And so that makes it the greatest run ever....
Well how great are they really when they couldn't even get to the finals. Evidently that reg season record didn't mean shyt
I just wanted him to make his points about players and team makeup like others are doing. Not simply saying, their record means they are the best team ever in history. Nah. They aren't
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This makes an even bigger case that Superstars like Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook need to go to the East. Instant conference finals
You do understand that you can't beat the best team unless the best team loses, right?
It doesn't matter when OKC faced the Warriors. They still beat the team.
It's just idiocy to say, "Well, if OKC was in the East so they didn't face the Warriors until the Finals it would be the greatest playoff run ever, but since they're in the West and facing the Warriors in the WCF, it's not the best run anymore."
If you win the championship, then the 1st team you played will lose in the first round, the 2nd team you played will lose in the 2nd round, the 3rd team you played will lose in the 3rd round, and the 4th team you played will lose in the Finals. That's how it has to fall every time.
Saying that OKC's SOS should be penalized because they beat the all-time great team they played in the WCF instead of in the Finals is some real dumb shyt.
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You're missing my point. I didn't say he was wrong. I said the basis of his argument is flawed cause he based it solely on recordYou do understand that you can't beat the best team unless the best team loses, right?
It doesn't matter when OKC faced the Warriors. They still beat the team.
It's just idiocy to say, "Well, if OKC was in the East so they didn't face the Warriors until the Finals it would be the greatest playoff run ever, but since they're in the West and facing the Warriors in the WCF, it's not the best run anymore."
If you win the championship, then the 1st team you played will lose in the first round, the 2nd team you played will lose in the 2nd round, the 3rd team you played will lose in the 3rd round, and the 4th team you played will lose in the Finals. That's how it has to fall every time.
Saying that OKC's SOS should be penalized because they beat the all-time great team they played in the WCF instead of in the Finals is some real dumb shyt.
GS has a better record than the 72 win Bulls. That does not make them the better team
Okc beating GS doesn't mean it was a harder path than beating the prime lakers, BASED SOLELY ON RECORD
If I counted right, Westbrook's Thunder were 12-8 against the ECF last year in games that Durant didn't play in.
They won some good games, but they also got blown out by the Pacers without PG even playing much, lost to the Pistons, lost to New York, lost to Brooklyn twice with one of the by 30+....
Going to the East isn't an instant conference finals by any means unless he joins an already-good team. Otherwise, Cleveland, Miami, Toronto if they keep their team intact, Washington with a big pickup, or even a retooled Bulls/Pacers team could knock off a lower-tier Westbrook-led team.
No, I don't think I missed the point I was responding to, because you repeated it over and over
Sure, factor in playoff record. Let's say that OKC ends up beating the Spurs, Warriors, and Cavs, and those teams go a combined 24-4 in the playoffs before playing the Thunder, which is certainly possible. That would almost certainly be the best opponent playoff record ever by a championship team.
Sorry, but there's just no way for the Spurs and Warriors to make the Finals IF OKC BEATS THEM.
Spurs had a great playoff record - they were undefeated and had won their games by an average of 22 points/game until OKC beat them.
Warriors had a great playoff record - they were 8-2, and undefeated with Curry on the floor, until OKC beat them.
And the Cavs will be 12-2 or 12-3 in they make the Finals.
So sure, factor in playoff record. It doesn't do what you think it does.
To complain that, "OKC can't have had a great Finals run because the teams they beat before the Finals didn't make it to the Finals" is moronic.
I'm done with you - at this point you have to be trolling.
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