If Ross wasn't exposed he'd be an EVEN BIGGER rap artist. Yay/Nay?

Would Ross be even bigger today without the C.O. incident?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 53.1%
  • No

    Votes: 23 46.9%

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Youngdev

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It's a good question, the music he was putting out saved his ass though.

I remember the thread when mafia music dropped, that shyt was crazy, he went from kinda basic trap rapper, to a nikka that was able to go bar for bar with Kool g rap, nas and Jay. He held his own. At that point you had to make a decision.

It's like he gained fans by getting better, but he lost fans by being labeled a fraud. So it hurt him I think . The sales are consistent which is good, but they don't really increase.

I think he will be stuck around gold until he fades away. But every time you think he might be fading he pops up on a big record. One of the problems is its usually never his record. He is gonna have to hold down a hit on his own to get to plat . Not on his own but his song.

At this point with mmg being successful, it don't even matter its not to many rappers doing the label thing successfully.

Wale and Meek doing well, I don't know whether to blame bad boy or mmg for French flopping, if he can get rockie fresh or Stalley or omarion to actually release an album and do respectable numbers like at least 2 to 250 overall it would be a success. shyt if self Made do over 100k the first week it's a success.
 
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CASHAPP

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You crackers swore by your little white dikks that Ross was going to fall off for the last 5 years and that nikka just gets bigger and bigger


I was in Miami last weekend when Hov brought him out on stage :wow:

Does he remind you of BIG?

*obviously i am not talking about emcee or talent wise*

i am referring to the love....
 

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Despite winning the battle with 50, I think the exposal did cap his sales potential as well as his stature in the game. That's why you'll see MTV, hip hop bloggers and stans talk about him "running the game" but the sales have essentially stayed in the same place his whole career. You can't really name another rapper who is as visible as Ross is and holds the company that Ross does that isn't in that upper tier of rappers. Drake, Jay, Wayne, Ye,Nicki... they all have Ross features. Ross gets features from the biggest names in the game...yet he can't elevate past where he is. The whole industry made a concerted effort to get him to the next level with GFID and nothing happened.
A lot had to do with GFID being a disappointment. He pushed it back so many times due to singles flopping. Ross couldn't find a decent street track that could also serve as a club track. Think BMF. He released so many knock off versions of that track and they all flopped. Plus he ladies tracks don't work. Dude needs to realize women only check for him if he's got Drake on the verse or hook. Nicki Minaj can't help him, neither can Chris Brown IMO...
 

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He may have gotten a platinum plaque but at the same time you could say that the beef helped keep him relevant too.
 

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If anything he used fans hate for 50 to bring himself some more fans....nikkas wuz willing to stan anybody who hated 50 at one point,Game benefeited from that too....the c.o shyt will keep some people from gettin into em for real,I couldn't fuk wit em after the outright lying,and shyttin on Trick Daddy like he wuz a fraud when he was the fraud,dude gave cavity searches,I don't care how much dope is fans swear he snuck in,he still had to search cavitys,flip nikkas beds over and take they contraband like:umad:....in order to keep his job,now its "I do it for the hustleas!:youngsabo:"....but regardless of that,as a rapper dude just don't connect with the people like that...he's decent lyrically which is good,his beats don't go to waste.

But hes just don't have those quotables or memorable verses that stand out.....u can be lyrical and still be forgettable as a rapper....Drake got the quotables and memorable verses,nikkas memorize Tm101 from front to back...T.I's Neva Scared verse,50 on Wanksta,Lil Wayne on just about every feature he wuz on after he got hot again,Plies on I'm So Hood featuring Ross:ohlawd:....Ross don't have verses like this to his name...his most memorable shyt to the average person would be his hooks like "dese nikkas can't hold me back"...and the bmf hook....I can't remember a single verse from this nikka and I wuz a fan before the c.o shyt....he wuz just a good rapper with good beats,not enuff to be superstar status no matter how much they tried to push em....a rapper like Young Dro had more superstar potential than Ross and isn't even as good as an artist
 

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Yes.

Getting into that back and forth with 50 was too much for him. 50 Cent has a wide audience and nothing to feed them except nonsense. You even dont have to be a fan of 50 to hear him talking and at the time he had enough credibility with the record buying public to make that CO shyt stick. The casual White record buyers know Ross was a CO and it's wack to them because they can't reconcile how the two worlds would meet. Rappers are selling dreams and fantasies as much as lyrics and beats.
 

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If anything he used fans hate for 50 to bring himself some more fans....nikkas wuz willing to stan anybody who hated 50 at one point,Game benefeited from that too....the c.o shyt will keep some people from gettin into em for real,I couldn't fuk wit em after the outright lying,and shyttin on Trick Daddy like he wuz a fraud when he was the fraud,dude gave cavity searches,I don't care how much dope is fans swear he snuck in,he still had to search cavitys,flip nikkas beds over and take they contraband like:umad:....in order to keep his job,now its "I do it for the hustleas!:youngsabo:"....but regardless of that,as a rapper dude just don't connect with the people like that...he's decent lyrically which is good,his beats don't go to waste.

But hes just don't have those quotables or memorable verses that stand out.....u can be lyrical and still be forgettable as a rapper....Drake got the quotables and memorable verses,nikkas memorize Tm101 from front to back...T.I's Neva Scared verse,50 on Wanksta,Lil Wayne on just about every feature he wuz on after he got hot again,Plies on I'm So Hood featuring Ross:ohlawd:....Ross don't have verses like this to his name...his most memorable shyt to the average person would be his hooks like "dese nikkas can't hold me back"...and the bmf hook....I can't remember a single verse from this nikka and I wuz a fan before the c.o shyt....he wuz just a good rapper with good beats,not enuff to be superstar status no matter how much they tried to push em....a rapper like Young Dro had more superstar potential than Ross and isn't even as good as an artist


You was good til you mentioned plies and young dro............how do fans not connect with Ross but they connect with Plies and Dro. Neither one of them nikkas are around nor have sold the records Ross has sold.

How does he keep consistently going gold if he don't connect with people, he might not connect with nikkas like like wayne drake, ye and all the top superstars. But to consistently go gold in this climate......you gotta be doing something right.



:russ: Plies having a memorable verse on I'm so hood, I forgot that nikka was on the song, the song aint even memorable.

All I remember is it being about a 100 nikkas on that song
 

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its simple.

ross' music doesn't translate into white America on the level of jay, kanye, wayne or drake. all this other stuff yall are arguing about is a waste of time.

ross reigns over all of them in the hip-hop world tho. im not feeling how some people in here are trying to base chit off of sales and crossover success. that's that toy mentality. cant respect it.
 

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The reason why he isn't a superstar like Wayne or Drake is simply...because he doesn't have star power..or "IT". Ross has always been mediocre in terms of everything...he's mostly carried by his production.
Yup, the casual fan, the people that buy albums, allow people like Wayne/Drake/Jay to sell out arenas don't know and wouldn't care about Ross being a CO.
 

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He doesn't have the big time crossover records that Guys like Drake,Kendrick,Jay,Kanye,Wayne have
 
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