If the Nazis had Won the War, What Would Have Happen to us?

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fukk outta here with this cac shyt
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One of those "What ifs" that rarely anyone wants to think too much about. For most of history, humankind has literally lucked the fukk out of the most evil of our kind not winning for various reasons.

Mongols
Ottoman Empire/Caliphates
Romans
Visigoths
Conquistadors

come again :wtf: If you are American you live in a land where evil won breh, and entire subset of the human species was basically wiped off the map.
 

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Mongols
Ottoman Empire/Caliphates
Romans
Visigoths
Conquistadors

come again :wtf: If you are American you live in a land where evil won breh, and entire subset of the human species was basically wiped off the map.
Bruh I said THE most evil, war is something we have always had. Extinction on a planetary scale, while possible, has thankfully not happened for various reasons.
 

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thread is hilarious :russ:

i cant believe i clicked on it thinking thered be actual historical hypothetical scenarios being discussed rather than what has gone on :snoop:

just some points on WW2 in a [futile] effort to get back on track:
  • Hitler evaded death many times quite luckily, even before his rise to power. A British soldier had a gun to his forehead and decided that he was pathetic looking so he let him live. Also couldve gotten shot during Beer Hall Putsch easily. List goes on.
  • The Nazi's/Axis easily couldve won the war. The Russians werent all that fond of the rest of the Allies and vice versa..and Stalin actually felt personally insulted that Hitler attacked Russia outside of the obvious because Stalin thought it was idiotic that Hitler would do that when they weren't economic threats really in practical nature. He felt that another capitalist/imperialist etc. nation such as the US wouldve been a more likely target as well as devoting those troops sent East to Britain to finish them off. At that point, Stalin went full IDGAF, even more-so than before.
  • Hitler going East is/was well documented as stupid. Not only was it ridiculous strategically but it really hurt their resources. Exhausted 10x more resources, lessened morale of troops, went against top advice and created some division and exacerbated claims of Hitler being insane (from loyalists).
  • Hitler started getting pissed at Mussolini and Mussolini basically wanted out but thought he'd have a better shot of protecting Italy by siding with Hitler since he figured the Vatican and good portions of Italy wouldnt be a big bomb threat for the Allies. Il Duce fukked up big time though and got hung in women's clothing in public by a populace who was sick of all that shyt and deservedly so. His palace at Lago di Garda with the gold fountains was dope but he was a moron. His HQ prob inspired Austin Powers tho:
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  • Similar to the incredible folly Hitler going East instead of solidifying, buying time and being more patient by listening to his advisors, Japan decided to bomb the US. Particulars on the subject are definitely odd..including evidence that some in the US wanted a big event as such to get into the war and essentially allowed it to happen (there was immense anti-war sentiment with popular politicians giving big time speeches against it)...with an attack on US soil..FDR had the ammo to deliver one of the best speeches in US history (while being coked up if i remember correctly) and sway support. Anyway...many, if not all top advisers in Japan said it was insane to bomb the US but they did anyway. One could make the argument that the Nazi's may have still been able to win or at least not have to concede and get bodied the way they did if Japan didnt provoke the US.
  • There are many sources that show evidence of U-Boats near the American coast. Perhaps Hitler was considering coming here instead of Russia..perhaps they were just doing some test-runs and surveillance work but Hitler probably opted against it because of business interests that were on-going for a while.
Onto the actual question:
  • It depends on what route they took to win the war. "Winning the war" is too simple. Winning it by beating the USSR...by beating Great Britain...by beating the US...falling back for a while and solidifying their Empire..its more complex than them just "winning". Each scenario (many of which were plausible at different times) would have made things very different than a different scenario.
  • If we are just going to go along with the Nazi's getting world domination as them "winning"...it wouldn't last long...how long would depend on when the less insane Nazi's got Hitler murked or regulated to 100% figurehead status. He was a megalomaniac and probably had all sorts of mental conditions/illnesses (take your pick)...but he also had syphilis and was just generally fukked up physically and mentally. Him being weak in public would not look good to the public. It couldve just been spun against him easily that he wasn't really Aryan anyway and is proof that non-Aryans are weak so it probably could've been salvaged...but Goebbels jumped the shark with the over-the-top Deity portrayal of Hitler. It helped lead to their success in a big way but limited their exit plans in terms of image.
  • There were many uprisings/revolts against the Nazis even at their peak in occupied territory..what do you think would happen if they conquered everything? It'd be the quickest example of Empirical Over-Reach ever. There's no way they'd have the resources to stop a crumble from within especially in countries like Russia and the US. They had elite tech etc and would have to utilize it immediately on all levels perfectly to maintain.With all their great tech (no sarcasm) they couldn't even stop people in Germany from listening to foreign radio broadcasts..some of the leaks within Germany of more failure than reported by the Nazis came from avenues such as these and subtle disapproval grew against Adolf because of his dishonesty and with the knowledge that not everything was peachy. The Nazi's would have had to go HAM with nukes to indefinitely maintain full control...or be able to manipulate the markets openly and behind the scenes internationally even more proficiently than those they demonized :mjpls:in order to mask outright dominance and make enough $ go around to keep the power-holders quiet.
  • Nazi sympathizers in here and in general are :merchant:regardless of how they feel towards Jews. Nazi's, at the pace they were at at the time, wouldve been terrible for minorities world-wide. They'd be enslaving pretty much everyone or they would pressure others to enslave and murder at their behest to get into their good graces. That happened anyway essentially...imagine all the little clowns running around trying to impress the big-wigs by murking or otherwise humiliating/brutalizing people. There'd be like 50 Ustase type groups around and about 10,000 SS organizations at the very least. Sounds like fun right? :snoop:
  • People are seeming to skip over decades and are just going from "Nazis win War" to 2014. It's not practical to just put the Nazi regime at the helm in today's society by just substituting them in for the status quo under this hypothetical of "if they won the war". Whenever they actually "won" they'd be riding even higher than they were ideologically and they'd crush everyone who didn't fall in line perfectly or was useful to them in terms of working at essentially no cost to them other than keeping the workers healthy enough to be productive, weak enough to not revolt and pay the price of what would be necessary to ensure proper watch over them. All that talk of Hitler and other bigwigs not being so bad to some non Aryans is misguided at best. The Olympic stuff was a show to the world to A) Make him and Germany seem as a non-aggressive economic recovery success story and either 1) Run with it and try to "fit in" for a while (not strongly considered) or 2) lull the world to sleep and blitzkrieg. We all know which route they decided. What do you think would've have happened to the Civil Rights Movement in the US if the Nazis were in charge and a paranoid, senile and extremely violent Hitler was in the White House? :pachaha:If you think what happened was bad (and it was with MLK dying/X..other social ugliness)...well ill just stop there :huhldup:
  • If the Nazis managed to last this long in world-domination they'd have to eventually take a Mongolian/Khan strategy of being brutal yet sometimes allowing areas to maintain cultures and customs. Yet, within Nazism, that would be completely contradictory. I don't really know what would happen if they employed that philosophy more but I find it hard to believe they could maintain order unless, again, they had absolutely brilliant leadership for 70 years and running in all aspects of governance. They'd have to somehow find a way to gradually get less extreme without losing their strongest supporters..most of whom were rabidly insane enough to try endless coup's.
  • This website wouldn't be running and very very few of us would have ever been able to experience any semblance of luxury at all if we were unlucky enough to even be born and live in 2014. 99% of us here wouldn't exist or would be subjected to ridiculous "scientific experiments" or would be living in utter shyt in terrible health and have like 35 year life spans tops. One ACL tear in the camp and you'd get murked..etc use your imagination.
  • Goodnight.
 
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Jesse Owens in his book talks about how Germany wasnt segregated during the Nazi Regime and he had to wait another 30yrs in the USA for the same priveledges

Also WEB DuBois travelled to Germany during the Nazi regime and spoke highly of their race relations

Stop feeding into the white mans his-story. There were black soldiers on both sides.

Hitler was a GREAT MAN, he was the biggest threat to European Imperialism there has ever been, something the Black Nation strive for and will achieve

Have you lost your fukking mind?
 

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Exactly. He wasn't such a bad guy. C'mon, sheeple.


Everyone whose PINEAL GLAND isn't calcitrated knows you can't kill the so-called Jew with gas. They're evil inter-dimensional beings.

It's hilarious when you can't tell the difference between the resident troll alias and some of the serious, fascist Nazi apologists in this thread.

:salute: to whoever is behind HATD
 

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why do you keep tagging when you already lost in the sauce man
sounds to me you jut want to hear more because you don't know enough

Breh, do you realize that everytime a poster makes a point , you try to flip it by saying " America is worse tho".

Plus I don't see how you don't see that nobody wants to put faith in how an entire race will be treated because of the treatment of one person.You say we are falling for the propaganda by the Brits and U.S. But it seems to me you are falling for Hitlers.
 
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