If the NCAA started paying players..
- Thread starter Big Blue
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Not really
I think they should do like game bonuses kinda like if a corporation exceeds there expected amoun then they should give the employees a quarterly bonus
So if for a football game if they cover the cost of all that stuff and the coaches salary then split the remainder among the players
I think they should do like game bonuses kinda like if a corporation exceeds there expected amoun then they should give the employees a quarterly bonus
So if for a football game if they cover the cost of all that stuff and the coaches salary then split the remainder among the players
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
I don't see why the NCAA or schools would be obligated to make players pay for their tuition or board. But even if this were the case, I don't see how this arrangement is much different from the typical employer-employer relationship. Employers expect employees to use their income to pay for expenses and boards. This happens and everybody comes to work the next day. The NCAA could simply expect players to put their income towards tuition and board, with players in response asking their union to demand the NCAA cover the tuition and board costs. Alternatively the players could just pay tuition and board, and play football. You pro-indentured slave college people are the masters of red herrings and non-sequitars. All your arguments basically reduce to "it's impossible to implement a pay-for-play system". No it isn't. There is a pay-for-play system for any number of sports all across the world. The NCAA has the money to hired employment lawyers from Harvard and Physics professors from Caltech to figure it out if you can't comprehend it, OP.
Are students on full academic scholarships not allowed to work?
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
"b-bu-buh how would such a system work? it's impossible."
complication does not imply impossibility. it's like saying that because because outlawing children from work was once difficult to accomplish, such a task should never have been attempted. just get the right people in a room and hash out compensation in negotiations. business people do it all the time, even if they would rather hire the cheapest worker and pay him in peanut butter bars rather than actual money.
complication does not imply impossibility. it's like saying that because because outlawing children from work was once difficult to accomplish, such a task should never have been attempted. just get the right people in a room and hash out compensation in negotiations. business people do it all the time, even if they would rather hire the cheapest worker and pay him in peanut butter bars rather than actual money.
say you play on soccer or tennis team or a sport that brings in not much money.........your scholarship you used to get to school might be leaving
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
And as an athlete whose sport people like and are willing to pay to watch, I should care?
Say you are in a job that doesn't pay much money. Should I, in a job that pays more money, have to curtail my own salary and sacrifice my own wel being so you can make more? No, make your own money. Soccer and tennis athletes have their own destinies and own arrangements to make money. Their fates, salaries,etc should have nothing to do with any other athlete's anywhere but the free market. That's capitalism.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
By that logic you could say the same for any athlete that doesn't play football, for there are money making endeavors for each sport.
Besides, it's amateur athletics at the end of the day. It's kinda funny how this country has turned on amateur athletics yet generally refuse to support minor leagues. That arrangement isn't the same anywhere else
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
Did you read my post? This is what I said.
The NCAA football and basketball system aren't amateur athletics. The NCAA brings in billions of dollars a year - it's worth more than the NBA. Some coaches get paid more than NFL coaches. There are strict training regimens given to the so-called "amateurs" and money is freely passed around like water when it comes to recruiting. Amateurs don't play this sport; semi pro athletes do. Anyone who isn't intellectual bankrupt agrees. Are you Mark Emmert in disguise?
There's nothing amateur about college football or basketball. The only reason the NCAA exists is because of an anti-trust exception so even the courts knew the NCAA's amateurism argument is bunk when the corrupt judges 30+ years ago ruled for the NCAA. That's why all these lawsuits are cropping up. The NCAA can't exist as it does without allowing people to negotiate in any but a corrupt system.
Well if that's the case why would a kid go to class? If you pay someone to do something, they are entitled to do whatever they want with that money. Why not just take that money and live off of it until you are eligible for the draft?
godkiller
"We are the Fury"
That's their choice. They could take the money and run - or stay and go to the NFL. But the same is true in soccer, golf, hockey, tennis, etc. Some will go, some will stay. What's the problem?
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
Did you read my post? This is what I said.
The NCAA football and basketball system aren't amateur athletics. The NCAA brings in billions of dollars a year - it's worth more than the NBA. Some coaches get paid more than NFL coaches. There are strict training regimens given to the so-called "amateurs" and money is freely passed around like water when it comes to recruiting. Amateurs don't play this sport; semi pro athletes do. Anyone who isn't intellectual bankrupt agrees. Are you Mark Emmert in disguise?
Little league baseball brings in millions of dollars too. That doesn't mean little Timmy should get a check for it.
If the NCAA didn't exist so be it, but then there wouldn't be college football or basketball as we know it for those schools wouldn't have teams to field and we wouldn't support a Minor league alternative. That's the big reason why you rarely ever see anyone attempt to buck the system. We hate semi-pro anything.
I was responding to your point about payin their own tuition. If guys had a choice to either pay $20-50 Gs a year for college costs OR pay all of that towards living expenses and recreation most guys are gonna pick the latter. I didn't say there was a problem I was merely pointing out that it would basically be a moot point and actually cost the universities way more than it benefitted them.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
It practically destroys a significant chunk of the inventory (by that I mean most schools would just shut it down, which is not what the intent is.) Schools would just stick to the way it is and maintain relative health since people root for laundry.
guarantee their schollys
guarantee medical coverage esp for injuries
ALLOW PLAYERS TO MAKE MONEY OFF THEIR LIKENESSES!!!
give em a stipend
Allowing the Big 5 conferences to spin off to their own division is for the best IMO. That way they can pay their Student Athletes something at least.
guarantee medical coverage esp for injuries
ALLOW PLAYERS TO MAKE MONEY OFF THEIR LIKENESSES!!!
give em a stipend
Allowing the Big 5 conferences to spin off to their own division is for the best IMO. That way they can pay their Student Athletes something at least.