If you ever doubted the GENIUS of Havoc as a producer enter immediately!!!

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hav NASTY :ohlawd:

stretch bumped this and part 1 back to back first hour and then later third hour months before the albums dropped. i was blown away by his genius b

lost the tape in hurricane sandy btw along with all my red alerts, mr magic rap attacks, and marley marl :to: :snoop:


you knew big Stretch?

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He produced one song on his own. Two with Hav and P.
...? Have you just been in the dark for the last 10 years or something? Q-Tip, Havoc, and Prodigyvhave all confirmed this shyt themselves. Prodigy said Q-Tip produced Temperatures Rising, Give Up The Goods, and Drink Away The Pain at his crib, just running through records and asking Hav and P which ones they liked.

And Havoc straight up said the only songs Q-Tip didnt help out with were Start of Your Ending, Shook Ones, QU-Hectic, Cradle to the Grave, and Party Over.

There's even a demo out there of Survival of the Fittest without the drums Q-Tip added
 

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He produced one song on his own. Two with Hav and P.
What @FunkDoc1112 said is accurate.There were a few articles/videos/podcasts about the album for the 20th and 25th anniversary, and Hav talked a little bit more about the beats, and said that Tip helped out on a few more than just what was credited in the liner notes. You can kind of tell in hindsight. The ones Hav did himself are the darkest ones.

Semi-related side note: Hell on Earth is the only Mobb album fully produced by Havoc, and that ‘96 - ‘98 era is my favorite era of Hav beats. He said that was the worst time of his personal life and it really came through in how dark the beats were. His drums in that era too were just so :ohlawd: The way he was able to take light hearted samples like MJ and Jackson 5 and make them sound so demonic and twisted was :picard::wow:
 
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What @FunkDoc1112 said is accurate.There were a few articles/videos/podcasts about the album for the 20th and 25th anniversary, and Hav talked a little bit more about the beats, and said that Tip helped out on a few more than just what was credited in the liner notes.

Semi-related side note: Hell on Earth is the only Mobb album fully produced by Havoc, and that ‘96 - ‘98 era is my favorite era of Hav beats. He said that was the worst time of his personal life and it really came through in how dark the beats were.
And this from 2011:

The Making of Mobb Deep's 'The Infamous'

Track by track breakdown.

Survival of the Fittest:

“Then Tip gets a hold of it. Tip leaves the loop just like it is—the same way that Havoc caught it—but then just infiltrates it entirely on the drum situation. It intensifies the entire record. If you ever hear the original, it’s ill, it’s gloomy, it’s street, but it’s nowhere as huge as Tip made it when he just changed up the drums. He just implemented that over the loop that Hav had and then just added so much on top of it.”

Eye for an Eye:

"He had an entirely different rhyme when it had the Al Green loop on it. I think Tip might have touched it a little bit, but for the most part Hav kinda did a wonderful job on that one in terms of just chopping up the loop [so we didn’t have to clear the sample].”

Up North Trip:

“Q-Tip enhanced the drums on that lovely. If you listen to ‘Up North Trip’ you’ll hear the snare kind of bouncing a little bit. Cracking a little more [than normal]. Tip gave it a real nice crack compared to what it originally was. He just beefed the drums up on that one.

“Tip also worked with me closely on recommending certain engineers that were great for mixes. Hav and P would always do their own drops and Hav would always—and I would always encourage him—be the producer and do the final check on his own shyt.

“The way that Tip contributed to the project was so cool because he wasn’t in there trying to say, ‘Yo, I’m the mixer for this, I’m taking credit for this.’ He was doing great in his career and he had mad love for us.

"He was just in it to help out and make sure it comes out right. Obviously, he got a nice deal. But it was really just trying to see Hav come up and really steer this ship with this group of emcees that he’s got.”

Trife Life:

“That was a record that was done towards the end. Havoc sounded like he was coming into his own [as a producer]. But Q-Tip came in there and mixed it better. I remember us going in and trying to make it a little bit bigger on the drums side and it not really quite coming out the way we wanted it to. Hav scraped it, made it something else, and then Tip embellished it a little bit.”

And actually, reading this over again, Tip helped out with Start of Your Ending, too.
 

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Off topic but I might write a thread about Mobb Deep's appeal to a large cross section of society/ racial/ gender demographics


And I have a theory that I may explore that shows how Mobb Deep and Prodigy music connects with listeners because America past and present is essentially a criminogenic enterprise
 

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"Nobody Likes Me" Mobb Deep from Violator Compilation
This is probally a Top 20 Havoc production imo
 

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...? Have you just been in the dark for the last 10 years or something? Q-Tip, Havoc, and Prodigyvhave all confirmed this shyt themselves. Prodigy said Q-Tip produced Temperatures Rising, Give Up The Goods, and Drink Away The Pain at his crib, just running through records and asking Hav and P which ones they liked.

And Havoc straight up said the only songs Q-Tip didnt help out with were Start of Your Ending, Shook Ones, QU-Hectic, Cradle to the Grave, and Party Over.

There's even a demo out there of Survival of the Fittest without the drums Q-Tip added

Thank you for letting me know. I missed those interviews some how.

What @FunkDoc1112 said is accurate.There were a few articles/videos/podcasts about the album for the 20th and 25th anniversary, and Hav talked a little bit more about the beats, and said that Tip helped out on a few more than just what was credited in the liner notes. You can kind of tell in hindsight. The ones Hav did himself are the darkest ones.

Semi-related side note: Hell on Earth is the only Mobb album fully produced by Havoc, and that ‘96 - ‘98 era is my favorite era of Hav beats. He said that was the worst time of his personal life and it really came through in how dark the beats were. His drums in that era too were just so :ohlawd: The way he was able to take light hearted samples like MJ and Jackson 5 and make them sound so demonic and twisted was :picard::wow:

Hell On Earth is the best Mobb Deep album. Lyrically and production wise.
 

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Just don’t believe Havoc sample a stove and believe that’s cap. I just don’t see that shyt happening. The story sound cool as hell but i can tell some bullshyt when I hear it. Classic beat though.

nikka called me a fukking hater, then I even explained the logic as someone who actually makes beats, and even mentioned that I was a havoc fan, but nikkas refused to be logical and believe this goofy ass shyt smh.

I take all my apologies back. I was actually being way too nice in this thread. I’m disappointed in myself for being a nice ass nikka smh. Y’all nikkas refused to use any logic even after it was explained to y’all clearly. I’m not going back and fifth with you nikkas about no production related shyt ever again

 
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