If you have a wifi router, phone, or computer, you are helping the US govt spy. Whether you want to or not

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No one cares. They been spying on your phones since 20 years ago and privacy issues were addressed and dismantled during the 9/11 era


If u having nothing to hide, you have nothing to worry about, who cares about porn history? Remember that? That was the common talking point online around allowing the government to snoop

You need to worry about these new cars and the privacy issues behind them but u slow talking about wi fi routers. Get your insurance increased on your 24 Honda cause u loaned it to your daughter for the night and your insurance company raises rates 2 months later cause they added her to the policy


Talk about that cause that's really happening


Drive a new car worried about privacy dinosaur brehs
I'm not so much worried about regular folks as I am about important people and the president.

Like I said, if Trump becomes president. Whats to stop him from ordering all communications between his detractors be obtained?

The difference between then and now is needing a warrant. Now, literally everyone is a spy for the NSA.

Snowden revealed that the NSA would spy on Palestinian Americans making calls to Palestinians. Then send that data to Unit 8200. That agency would then use that info to kill suspects and their families.

No one is freaking out now because it's still fresh. And there's already so much other fukkery happening
 

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While I don't fully agree with the TikTok ban, I think it's because it's a dominant Chinese player in the social media game rather than them just being Chinese alone. You also have to look at what China allows in their country. They don't allow any foreign services unless they bend to the will of the Chinese government. You can't use Instagram, Facebook, and other service in China. If they're not going to allow our services in their country, why allow them in ours.
Because we claim to be a capitalist free market where consumers determine winners and losers. China has never claimed to be that.

If we ban foreign products because consumers prefer it over American products, how is that a free market? That is literally communism
 

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While I don't fully agree with the TikTok ban, I think it's because it's a dominant Chinese player in the social media game rather than them just being Chinese alone. You also have to look at what China allows in their country. They don't allow any foreign services unless they bend to the will of the Chinese government. You can't use Instagram, Facebook, and other service in China. If they're not going to allow our services in their country, why allow them in ours.

they're not proposing a trade embargo with china though, they're targeting an app. giving the the government the same censorship power that the CCP regularly employs is more harmful to americans in the long run than tiktok could ever be. the won't stop at tiktok and it won't just be foreign owned websites. china isn't a free speech or free market proponent and when the U.S so called ideals get tested, look how they're abandoning them.
 

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I'm not so much worried about regular folks as I am about important people and the president.

Like I said, if Trump becomes president. Whats to stop him from ordering all communications between his detractors be obtained?

The difference between then and now is needing a warrant. Now, literally everyone is a spy for the NSA.

Snowden revealed that the NSA would spy on Palestinian Americans making calls to Palestinians. Then send that data to Unit 8200. That agency would then use that info to kill suspects and their families.

No one is freaking out now because it's still fresh. And there's already so much other fukkery happening
As much as I empathize with this topic and cause let me say this


I don't give a fukk about palenstine or Israel

We would be better off letting those people fight and whoever wins let's talk

I'm tired of both sides
 

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While I don't fully agree with the TikTok ban, I think it's because it's a dominant Chinese player in the social media game rather than them just being Chinese alone. You also have to look at what China allows in their country. They don't allow any foreign services unless they bend to the will of the Chinese government. You can't use Instagram, Facebook, and other service in China. If they're not going to allow our services in their country, why allow them in ours.
All for this. Screw them
 

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I'd rather the American government spy on me than the fool ass Chinese. :manny:
Why not both?




But I guess when you own Meta stock it's hard to ban it huh:patrice:
 
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Why not both?




But I guess when you own Meta stock it's hard to ban it huh:patrice:




The article states that Zuckerberg had to end the deal. The US government can lean on an American social media company if they're doing something wrong. They have no way to lean on a Chinese social media company. The Chinese government leans on the Chinese social media company.
 

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Keep your noses clean. The white man strikes back.

(Loops sith empire drums)
 

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The article states that Zuckerberg had to end the deal. The US government can lean on an American social media company if they're doing something wrong. They have no way to lean on a Chinese social media company. The Chinese government leans on the Chinese social media company.
Why was Zuckerberg doing it in the first place? And if it's a security concern why wasn't Facebook banned? Especially considering its not the first time it's been caught doing this shyt

They leaned on tiktok then tiktok put all of its operations in Texas and Oracle used its servers.

There are several layers of protection to protect user data privacy. Can't say the same about Meta though :patrice:
 

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I'd rather the American government spy on me than the fool ass Chinese. :manny:

so you want the people who have a history of unjustly incarcerating, spying on and murdering black americans to have increased unprecedented surveillance capabilities and censorship powers in stead of a partly owned chinese company collecting data other americans companies are collecting?chinese officials have no legal authority over us.
 
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