If you honestly think LEBRON aint better than KOBE in every way, then you're retarded

[god shamgod]

It's not debatable lebron has been the best for years,these groupies deal wit emotions like bytches

"But.....But Kobe has better footwork!!!!!!"

So what kobe needs hall of fame franchise players type teammates to get out the 1st round while lebron was 22 leading teams to the finals for DOLO

Mike brown just got fired,lebron led that same idiot to 66 wins and a trip to the finals with big z and ira newble as his teammates

It's not even a debate b

 

[HacksawJimThuggin]

no one even compares Bron to Kobe anymore, that ship has sailed... the only really measuring stick from Bron is whether or not he'll continue to ball at this pace and eventually be mentioned in the same breath as MJ... not saying he'll ever equal or surpass MJ, but the only thing left for Lebron to do is cement himself as the #2 GOAT and be mentioned on some "there was Mike, Bron, and everyone else" type shyt





Kobe stans are delusional... his career numbers are about even across the board with D.Wade's, yet they try to elevate him into the MJ/Bron stratosphere

 

[thernbroom]

 

[FTBS]

So is it a skills combine or are we judging players by production?

Either way, your judgement of their skill isn't even true.

Check the shooting splits, going on three years, Lebron is a much improved shhoter and actually just as good a shooter as Kobe.

But it's about production, not an arbitrary breakdown of skills.

Hoopdata Player Stats - LeBron James

Hoopdata Player Stats - Kobe Bryant

Check the shot locations and career 3P%.

Kobe's midrange jumper is Aquafina, his 3pter is just as streaky as Bron's but it's not even close inside the arc. If Bron had Kobe's jumper there would be no point in watching the NBA. That would seriously be unfair. When you are discussing who is better at something it is all about breaking down their skills. else would you be looking at? Numbers without context don't really add a lot to a discussion about who is better at something. You have to actually watch games for that.

Bron is nowhere near as a good a shooter as Kobe, he's a better decision maker, there's a difference. Kobe's jumper is ridiculous. The reason why it doesn't show in the numbers is because he knows it's ridiculous and has unshakeable faith in it and thusly he takes bad shots. That speaks to his decision making and approach to the game more so than it does his actual skills. Bron is a better decision maker. That along with his superior size and athleticism contribute to his shooting percentages more so than the quality of his jumper.

 

[mastermind]

So is it a skills combine or are we judging players by production?

Either way, your judgement of their skill isn't even true.

Check the shooting splits, going on three years, Lebron is a much improved shhoter and actually just as good a shooter as Kobe.

But it's about production, not an arbitrary breakdown of skills.

Hoopdata Player Stats - LeBron James

Hoopdata Player Stats - Kobe Bryant

Check the shot locations and career 3P%.

you dont know how to analyze stats. I realized that before when you tried to make a thread shytting on Kobe, and by putting this down, you cleary dont.

Kobe takes more jumpers than Lebron. Lebron going 0.75/1.5 from 10-15 feet doesnt tell me Lebron has a better jumpshot than Kobe.

 

[954UAlreadyknow]

Until last years playoffs, LeBron didn't want any part of the ball with 5 minutes left in a playoff game. YeAh he can rack up stats and shyt, but that dude is the biggest frontrunner in sports and is nowhere near Kobe when the game is on the line.

Did you watch the 2011 playoffs

Against the Celtics and Bulls he was extremely clutch

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

All signs do point to it going that way. Just thinking about it, Bron is basically a Magic type of player.

Then the question gonna be coulda 34 year old bron average a triple double?

 

[FTBS]

Until last years playoffs, LeBron didn't want any part of the ball with 5 minutes left in a playoff game. YeAh he can rack up stats and shyt, but that dude is the biggest frontrunner in sports and is nowhere near Kobe when the game is on the line.

Yeah this is just patently false.

 

[mastermind]

no

Bron is basically a Magic type of player.

and no


just because Lebron can pass the ball doesnt make him a point guard.

You guys confuse passing and assist stats with proper point guard play.

 

[Swagnificent]

I'm black
Log off.

don't believe it

never heard a nikka at the barber shop start dropping per by the age of 27 in any argument about whose better between Kobe and LeBron

you're a white boy....case closed

 

[Ohene]

L_Dub is delusional

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

no


and no


just because Lebron can pass the ball doesnt make him a point guard.

You guys confuse passing and assist stats with proper point guard play.

I said Magic "type" of player. I didn't say he would run the point.

But I could.

You telling me in a D'antoni offense Bron would not see any point guard play?

You saying Bron would not be capable of playing the point at all?

You saying when Bron looses some speed and jumping ability, distributing and rebounding wouldnt become more of a focal point in his game.

If all what I said (which is similar to magics game) is false how will his game be in the later stages of his career?

I doubt he's going to fall off the face of the earth like these Kobe Stans think.

 

[Swagnificent]

So how is Kobe a better pure scorer when Lebron scores more points more efficiently? Kobe may be a "prettier" scorer but Lebron is the better scorer.

10 seconds left.....entire defense keys in on you......who would you rather have with the ball?

Ray Allen is also a more efficient scorer than Kobe but he's not a better pure scorer because he can't create a shot out of nothing like Kobe. Kobe's the best pure scorer in NBA history. Even above MJ cause he got the 3-point shot in addition to the mid-range, post-up, and inside shot.

LeBron is only better at getting to the basket, hence the higher FG%. But he is not a better scorer than Kobe cause he can't score from the mid-range, post, or 3-point line like Kobe.

That is why when the game is on the line and the entire defense keys on one player, Kobe is the guy who always takes the last shot while LeBron passes it up. Its easy to get layups and transition points in the first quarter. Its alot more difficult when there is 10 seconds left in the game.

 

[mastermind]

You telling me in a D'antoni offense Bron would not see any point guard play?

why would you select one offense specific offense as the "lebron can play point guard" barometer?

Kobe is playing point guard for D'Antoni right now, and doing a decent job at it. I dont believe Kobe Bryant is a good point guard.

You saying when Bron looses some speed and jumping ability, distributing and rebounding would become more of a focal point in his game.

If all what I said (which is similar to magics game) is false how will his game be in the later stages of his career?

yes, thats exactly what I am saying.

Lebron's point guard play is about him dribble penetrating and kicking the ball out. That wasnt Magic's game.

When Lebron loses that first step he would have to go down into the post to do his work. He can pass out of there, but he isnt going to be like Magic Johnson was in the 80s which is what you two suggested.

 

[No1]

Look, if you continue to quote me with your emotional outbursts where you don't really say anything then I'll just start insulting you. I stated an opinion and backed it up with an argument supporting that opinion. Since you disagree then why don't you explain why? Make your case for Kobe being able to score in more ways than Lebron, instead of boo-hooing over my opinion.

To be fair, no one who has ever watched basketball would say the shyt that you just said. Not even LeBron, it was just straight up laughable. I'm not even arguing about who is better right now. But that statement you made was one of the worst in the thread.

What's hilarious in all of this is that LeBron fans always want to point out career numbers as if there's not a major difference there. They never want to point out what they were like at specific ages. LeBron vs. Kobe from 18-20 easily favors LeBron. From 21 onward you have a debate at every single interval. But they won't do that. There are other guys who have close PPG averages to Kobe who are nowhere near his stratosphere at his peak. The D. Wade argument is the funniest one because all you guys want to do is AGAIN, point our career numbers which include Kobe red-shirting instead of talking about how good they were at specific intervals in their careers.

That's why guys like Hacksaw aren't taken seriously. I can make an argument for either guy, but fronting like the numbers tell the entire story is a joke. D. Wade at his peak was comparable to both Kobe and LeBron, that was the top 3, but guys want to holler at career numbers to act like he was never there.