If You Know Ebonics Then You're Bilingual.

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I don't know why people try to deny ebonics as a language, it's a language that you have to be born around to really understand it fluently and it's simplistic and complex atsdt.

It's not acknowledged because it's a denial of African Americans and their identity in America.
 

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I don't know why people try to deny ebonics as a language, it's a language that you have to be born around to really understand it fluently and it's simplistic and complex atsdt.

It's not acknowledged because it's a denial of African Americans and their identity in America.

Don't call it Ebonics, that's what CACS call it. The correct term is either African American vernacular English, or as the poet Steven Willis says "American creole". I love this poem!

 

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I don't know why people try to deny ebonics as a language, it's a language that you have to be born around to really understand it fluently and it's simplistic and complex atsdt.

It's not acknowledged because it's a denial of African Americans and their identity in America.
Shut the hell up.
 

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AAVE/Ebonics etc is dope to me. Just as dope as all the various creole/patois dialects throughout the caribbean.
You know, that's dope. I'mma have to read up on some of that now that you mention it. People don't understand how intellectual it is like the poster that I quoted below us. -Poster below us refer up here-

It's a coded language, if you think about it we're using all English words, forming a new style of syntax, with a whole other group of meaning and feeling behind the words we use.

That's why other people can't understand what we're saying if we talk to each other, but we can come down to their level as well and talk in that manner too.

That doesn't strike you as intellectual, guy below me?
This sound like some smart dumb nikka shyt. Aint nothing complex about 'Ebonics' :martin:
 

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Don't call it Ebonics, that's what CACS call it. The correct term is either African American vernacular English, or as the poet Steven Willis says "American creole". I love this poem!


Didn't black people come up with the name Ebonics?
 

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You know, that's dope. I'mma have to read up on some of that now that you mention it. People don't understand how intellectual it is like the poster that I quoted below us. -Poster below us refer up here-

It's a coded language, if you think about it we're using all English words, forming a new style of syntax, with a whole other group of meaning and feeling behind the words we use.

That's why other people can't understand what we're saying if we talk to each other, but we can come down to their level as well and talk in that manner too.

That doesn't strike you as intellectual, guy below me?

I get what you're trying to say and I have heard this before. To me it's just broken english and street slangs. And the cacs that claim they don't 'understand' are full of shyt. The try to place themselves on pedestal with a sort of 'I don't understand the primitive tribe speech' vibe. You should see some of those old documentaries they made on 'urban language'. The vibes those cacs was giving off, like the black youth in the city was lesser than and had a primitive way of speaking. It's unnerving.

Now if you want to talk about some of the real creole languages in America spoken by Blacks such as Gullah, that would be a different story.
 

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Didn't black people come up with the name Ebonics?

Yes, it was created by Robert Williams, he was a black psychologist; problem is CACS made that term synonymous with ignorance and other negative attributes. That's why it was changed up to the word slang. But official encyclopedias and language Institiutes call it AAVE ( African Maefican Vernacular English).
 

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I get what you're trying to say and I have heard this before. To me it's just broken english and street slangs. And the cacs that claim they don't 'understand' are full of shyt. The try to place themselves on pedestal with a sort of 'I don't understand the primitive tribe speech' vibe. You should see some of those old documentaries they made on 'urban language'. The vibes those cacs was giving off, like the black youth in the city was lesser than and had a primitive way of speaking. It's unnerving.

Now if you want to talk about some of the real creole languages in America spoken by Blacks such as Gullah, that would be a different story.
so patois isn't broken english?

it's the same thing. And they use street slang, what are you on about. When you take words, give them whole new meaning and arrange them in ways that they're not to be arranged in and you've got an understanding between the people you speak with, is that not language? That's how French, Spanish, Italian, etc started, so how can you argue one point against another.
 

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Yes, it was created by Robert Williams, he was a black psychologist; problem is CACS made that term synonymous with ignorance and other negative attributes. That's why it was changed up to the word slang. But official encyclopedias and language Institiutes call it AAVE ( African Maefican Vernacular English).
So you're going to denounce something a black person worked hard to establish, because of the way white people perceive it.

Do you do the same with hip hop?

Do you listen to yourself?

Wah di bumba ras
 

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so patois isn't broken english?

it's the same thing. And they use street slang, what are you on about. When you take words, give them whole new meaning and arrange them in ways that they're not to be arranged in and you've got an understanding between the people you speak with, is that not language? That's how French, Spanish, Italian, etc started, so how can you argue one point against another.


I like you pointed that out because when you really think of it all those romance languages are the same shyt. It's just Latin that got changed over time. And cacs want to sit on a pedestal like their language is different.

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I get what you're sayin but I don't like the "it's uneducated" or "not complex" cause cacs in Australia, cacs in Britain & cacs in amerikkka all speak English but theirs is different. The white american and white Australian ancestors were just Britains rejects doing the royal families dirty work. Lookin at their history its clear they weren't noble, educated, intelligent etc. So why put their languages higher than ours?
 
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