If you marry a woman without her completing a 1 year probationary period consisting of...

[Remote]

I'm same way tell me right the fukk now why u mad and after u do that then u can cool down and we can discuss how too resolve it.
cuz i know at times being too mad u can say some ignorant shyt but at least tell me why u mad so i can process what u saying then i'll say aight then go calm down and well discuss it then unless ur calm right then in their

Exactly.
But people don't do that.
They have discussions with others in the meantime. Discussions that should happen with you.

 

[awkwardblackgirl]

If you trust a legal contract more than a verbal declaration than something is wrong here. Seriously.

I clarified what I meant in a previous comment.

 

[Rawtid]

Are you a child? Elaborate

I know you're not talking to me but

If I lived with someone the expectation would be that it's an upgrade from my single person' living arrangement and possibly something I couldn't afford on my own so I would be depending on my spouses' income to make ends meet and I wouldn't put myself in that position for a guy I wasn't married to.

Even if I could afford the place on my own, let's say my boyfriend lost his job or even wanted to go back to school or something, I would not be willing to support him financially, not in the same way I would my husband. I'm a staunch believer in the combining of finances for the purpose of building wealth. I would not combine finances with someone I wasn't married to, so it'd be a roomate situation and I don't like roomates.

Living with someone is a HUGE instrusion on your privacy and I'm not giving that up for someone I'm not married to.

 

[Diondon]

Ohhh I see what you're saying. It doesn't have to do with protecting resources or anything like that. I meant legally binding more in a Christian sense like we're obligated to work as a partnership under God and all that. I know someone mentioned that having a reason to live together outside of religious reasons is nonsense, but that's kind of the driving force for me. The practical things people are mentioning I guess make sense, but I don't think that an evaluation of playing house for a couple years will create an accurate trajectory of what things will be like in the future.

Ok the Christian angle. Well I have no choice but to respect if that's your religious beliefs

 

[Nintendough]

You say a man is dumb to agree with not living with a woman until they are married but traditionally this is how it was done and those marriages of 30+ yrs sure beats the marriages that we have now a days. I'm on the fence with this. I think issues can go both ways.

It also wasn't traditional for women to be able to jerk men around in the legal system. Just like women might carry a whistle or not walk alone at night, a man must make a woman work that ring since it puts a man at risk.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Obviously you can't read, when you learn that simple skill you will learn precaution doesn't equal control or an attempt at control.


Taking precautions as a man to protect himself is called common sense. Well let me correct myself, its actually "good sense" since it isn't that common. When an investment is being made, the good sense approach is to use a probationary period to evaluate and at the least give yourself certain points to build a foundation off of while still being flexible in case of a sudden change.



You can now proceed to talk in circles non-related to the knowledge that im charitable enough to feed you for female and simp daps my son.

Nicely put

 

[Torrential]

Feminism is the worst thing to happen to womankind? Are you out of your mind? Women having the social ability to participate in the economy, and consider themselves as capable as men to work and express themselves is some evil premise? How many women are you going to find that consider themselves less than men, in which their only purpose in life is to cook, clean, pop out babies and be seen and not heard?

This "pre-feminist" world that you pine for was constructed by white males, who had an interest in controlling all other groups, socially and economically, and shaming them from expressing themselves, and having the abilities that they feel are immaculately conceived birthrights for them.

All that shyt is gravy and I wouldn't say what I said without studying feminism. I've read the leading feminist theorist Bell Hooks' book and a lot of it makes sense because she's not pointing the finger at all men for being responsible for the oppression of women, but a systemic capitalist problem. But what feminist theorists believe is completely different than what these women actually practice. Even Bell Hooks herself admits that women have taken feminism and made it predominantly about shaming and hating men. It's not even about challenging a system that is still denying them the rights they want. The white male and the dehumanizing properties of capitalism are the culprits not the average joe. But who gets the brunt of the hatred and frustration? The average man. Me as a man of color is not responsible for a woman's oppression. My point which you spun into something completely different is that we don't deserve to be hated. And for the reasons stated above, feminism practiced by women today is the WOAT.

 

[Batman]

Ohhh I see what you're saying. It doesn't have to do with protecting resources or anything like that. I meant legally binding more in a Christian sense like we're obligated to work as a partnership under God and all that. I know someone mentioned that having a reason to live together outside of religious reasons is nonsense, but that's kind of the driving force for me. The practical things people are mentioning I guess make sense, but I don't think that an evaluation of playing house for a couple years will create an accurate trajectory of what things will be like in the future.

Now that's a whole different kind of crazy I ain't trying to deal with.

 

[Remote]

Probationary period?

 

[Rawtid]

It also wasn't traditional for women to be able to jerk men around in the legal system. Just like women might carry a whistle or not walk alone at night, a man must make a woman work that ring since it puts a man at risk.

Pre-nup!

 

[Remote]

I need some goddamn rep for the truth I've been spewing in here.

 

[Remote]

Pre-nup!

Don't most prenups gets thrown out in court?

 

[GoPro]

I know you're not talking to me but

If I lived with someone the expectation would be that it's an upgrade from my single person' living arrangement and possibly something I couldn't afford on my own so I would be depending on my spouses' income to make ends meet and I wouldn't put myself in that position for a guy I wasn't married to.

Even if I could afford the place on my own, let's say my boyfriend lost his job or even wanted to go back to school or something, I would not be willing to support him financially, not in the same way I would my husband. I'm a staunch believer in the combining of finances for the purpose of building wealth. I would not combine finances with someone I wasn't married to, so it'd be a roomate situation and I don't like roomates.

Living with someone is a HUGE instrusion on your privacy and I'm not giving that up for someone I'm not married to.

Like I said before, cohabitating when you can already sustain yourself independently is mutually beneficial. You'd be saving twice as fast. And i dont see why marriage all of sudden makes palatable the sacrifices you'd potentially be willing to accept. Marriage is not some inseparable union in which the two of you are literally bonded together for life. You can get married, support his return to school, and he still leaves. You can build wealth with him and he still leaves.

 

[Nintendough]

Pre-nup!

The law is slowly making these worthless. Women are getting their way but pouring jelly on themselves in the process.

 

[awkwardblackgirl]

.. and why is this?

I actually really liked @Rawtid 's response, and I'll piggy back off of it. To me, being in a marriage is a situation where there is a requirement of dependence. Being in a relationship doesn't carry that type of responsibility, but when you start living together there is pressure to duplicate that dependence and that is not a responsibility I want when I'm just getting to know you.