If you put 2pac over Biggie in your list..lyricism is not your priority

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Pac has songs where he was lyrical...






That Saddam Hussein wordplay :ohlawd:

And besides, Pac catalog is more diverse than Biggie's, so one could put Pac over Biggie for that :manny:

I put Pac over Nas as Pac was better at making hit songs than Nas is :ehh:
 
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No doubt
Long Kiss Goodnight and Hit Em Up set the big differences between big and pac
Verse two vs anything pac spew out :bryan: no hate though :youngsabo:
 

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Came to this conclusion a few years back... Biggie makes the top 5, Pac and Hov still up there but not enough seats at the table if we are speaking straight lyrics over beats.
 

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No doubt
Long Kiss Goodnight and Hit Em Up set the big differences between big and pac
Verse two vs anything pac spew out :bryan: no hate though :youngsabo:

I agree, but damn at Ambitions of a Ridah, Hail Mary, and Against All Odds.

B.I.G. is nice no doubt.

But few rappers could out class Pac, Ice Cube, Scarface, and Chuck D who were not lyrical heavy weights.
 

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one is not objectively better than the other, just like with any 2 artists its about personal preference.

that being said i havent met anyone in cali that would pick big over pac. that probably doesnt mean shyt though since i could go outside and find 10 people who would rate mac dre higher than big :manny: at the end of the day who cares
 
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sPit it so eloquentleh my Pistols rePresent meh bussin til my rounds emPteh back for the street fame

as a hiP hoP historian the first claim when critiquing some artist is I actually saw them Perform live in their Prime in their PomP. this is the case with Pac & Biggie.

Biggie: the first thing that people overlook and yet is so crucial to understanding the swagger & style of the brooklyn one was his strong jamaican heritage. from the first bar you can hear the influence of his mother's birth place. his swag is jamaican, his diction is heavily jamaican influenced. jamaican's are considered the coolest people on the planet and biggie more than any other artist from the island represented that to the fullest. (of course many may say 'whateva happened to busta rhymes?!?!')

biggie was a smart schooler and was definitely gifted in english like his mother. he had been trained to tell a story using traditional methods with a beginning, a middle, and an end. he did this brilliantly. his wittiness was undeniable too. and again that has much to do with his jamaican roots and being proud and boasie and telling a tale that shows him being in control but in a lite playful way. Lyrically, I'm not altogether convinced that biggie didn't have rhymes written for him but what is unsavoury was his overly hom0 erotic word play and constant references to A-hole and but? phuking. mister cee then diddy definitely influenced this negative side of his lyricism. and that was most definitely NOT jamaican.

Pac was a tour de force. It's difficult to exPlain to PPL how magnetic a character dude was. having seen him no more than 7 feet way once i listened to his lyrics again u realised how dude really lived it as he sPit it. technically, dude wasn't caught uP in the Purity of lyrics and catering to a leftie leanie elite who wanted nothing more than to sPend hour uPon hour dissecting the meanings of esoteric bars. Pac wasnt with that but that didnt mean he wasn't lyrics. Also during his DR days his beats were stuPendous and very jamaican too (streetfame being a classic examPle of that) and credit much go to SK. Pac was lyrical but to him it was abt the song and having his words easily digested and recited by his adoring fans rather than be dissected by wordsmiths & nerds who weren't abt to his front his financial obligations.

Pac is the GOAT
 

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Pac loves Biggie and Biggie loves Pac because both of them acknowledges their talents. Biggie liked Pac for what he does, Pac liked Biggie for what he does. Both of them are totally different styles.

Be honest with me.....which album do you think would be better and more classic?

2Pac + Biggie album or Biggie + Jay-Z album?
 

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Pac loves Biggie and Biggie loves Pac because both of them acknowledges their talents. Biggie liked Pac for what he does, Pac liked Biggie for what he does. Both of them are totally different styles.

Be honest with me.....which album do you think would be better and more classic?

2Pac + Biggie album or Biggie + Jay-Z album?

pac did'nt love biggie at least after the beef started pac did'nt love biggie

and biggie did'nt like pac either so u are delousional in that regard

and a pac and biggie album would never happened dead or alive.

a jay-z and biggie album would happened by default.
 

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real talk i dont know what yall call lyricism cause big and pac kept it simple big just had better word play where pac was just more straight foward both was simple though if you really look at it bigs storys was crazy and pacs emotion brought something new to the game you have to respect both but to say that they were some lyrical genius is crazy never heard neither one spit a verse like Nas,3stacks,monch,or even pun. they was good at what they do and seperated themselves from the rest but it was because of either one of them being lyrical.
 

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Dnt gotta do nun breh:ld:

As long that you're cool with the fact that u put a mufcka over anoter mufcka in this rap sht not because of his skill but becuz he makes u cry like a lil bytch ass nikkaz with his songz..then u cool wit me hombre :jawalrus:

Now..im done with ur emotional crying "Pac is my black Jesus" stanning ass
As for the rest of yall

if you put Pac over big..like I said..lyricism is not ur priority:leon:



The irony here is you sound really hurt, some would call you emotional. I'd call you homotional
 
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