If you say Melo doesn't make his teammates...

[USSInsiders]

Tell me why is melo a better scorer? If they both went out there this season and had the sole purpose of seeing how much they could score - who would end up having the higher PPG?

Better is a vague way of describing it. Melo is definitely the more skilled and varied scorer. Automatic from midrange, better face-up game from the triple threat, better at off the dribble shooting, and he's a good three-point shooter too.

LeBron can shoot from anywhere now, but he's less willing to force things and he's more comfortable scoring in the paint just off his sheer physicality and speed, his offensive game is much, much more "compact", but Melo's is a bit more complicated. Because Melo isn't as fast or strong as LeBron, he has to rely more on his footwork and his game is predicated a lot more on timing movements right, but that isn't to say Melo is a weakling by any means because he's not. They just arrive from point A to point B much differently.

Now if you're looking at a stat sheet, the main things that will jump out is the fact Melo has way more attempts, and he's no where near as efficient. LeBron gets his points purely off of his dominance and improved fundamentals, but Melo has always been above the curve from a pure offensive fundamental level when compared to LeBron, but Melo is no where near the freak of nature that LeBron is.

Melo's game is more risk and reward, but LeBron's is safer and "efficient". Do you want the guy who picks his spots but at times can be a bit too passive, or do you want the guy who risks overshooting, but when he's hot he can literally dominate the game purely off his scoring ability and nothing else?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Are you saying fg% is what makes you a good scorer ? If so a bunch of centers are the best scorers of all time

No, i'm saying that if lebron wasn't mindful of his fg% and had a constant scoring mentality what would he average?

 

[23Barrettcity]

That still doesn't answer my question. The way lebron has fine-tuned his game and added a near-unstoppable post game, how many PPG would he have this season if he just went all out?

It would go down bron would be easier to defend and his shot isn't as good as melo ...

 

[intruder]

How the fukk am I suppose to take that as you alluding to taking what you said back? You're not making any sense.

Pardon my failure to puntuate dear sire.

Let's repost what I said again with the punctuations it needs.

Well, better shooter for now.

This basically says "Melo is a better shooter for now but Lebron is not far behind".

And I like his post game better.

This states that As of now Melo's post game still gets my juices flowing over Lebrons.

But lately seems like he's become in love with the outside jumper. But dude has some pretty good moves down low

This says that Despite having a pretty good low post game Melo has become so in love with the outside jumper that he rarely uses said low post game to his advantage as he should a la Antoine Walker.


Happy now? Or do i need to stay late after school for extra credit to make brings my grades up?

 

[Luke Cage]

What makes them better scorers? What do you think lebron's PPG this season be if he had scoring mentality every game (and only passed when he absolutely had to) and didn't care for his fg%?

the fg% isn't what determines the best scorer. The ability to gameplan for them defensively is.

Everybody knows that with Lebron you want to keep him out of the lane and force him to shoot from the perimeter. This season he has been shooting exceptionally well but thats the key word exception. He doesn't always shoot like this so if a defender had to choose they would rather give him an open three than an open dunk. Also his post game is improved but not yet lethal like the other players listed.

Lebron even said that carmelo is the toughest player in the league to defend one on one.

 

[23Barrettcity]

No, i'm saying that if lebron wasn't mindful of his fg% and had a constant scoring mentality what would he average?

Bron probably score more points but his fg% would drop
Your talking as if all melo does is chuck up shots and shots 30% like he's Monta Ellis

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Better is a vague way of describing it. Melo is definitely the more skilled and varied scorer. Automatic from midrange, better face-up game from the triple threat, better at off the dribble shooting, and he's a good three-point shooter too.

LeBron can shoot from anywhere now, but he's less willing to force things and he's more comfortable scoring in the paint just off his sheer physicality and speed, his offensive game is much, much more "compact", but Melo's is a bit more complicated. Because Melo isn't as fast or strong as LeBron, he has to rely more on his footwork and his game is predicated a lot more on timing movements right, but that isn't to say Melo is a weakling by any means because he's not. They just arrive from point A to point B much differently.

Now if you're looking at a stat sheet, the main things that will jump out is the fact Melo has way more attempts, and he's no where near as efficient. LeBron gets his points purely off of his dominance and improved fundamentals, but Melo has always been above the curve from a pure offensive fundamental level when compared to LeBron, but Melo is no where near the freak of nature that LeBron is.

Melo's game is more risk and reward, but LeBron's is safer and "efficient". Do you want the guy who picks his spots but at times can be a bit too passive, or do you want the guy who risks overshooting, but when he's hot he can literally dominate the game purely off his scoring ability and nothing else?

Yes, I know all this.

On the bolded - but that still doesn't make him a better scorer. You're telling me that Lebron can't dominate a game purely off his scoring ability? You're telling me lebron whose highest PPG is 31.4 in his third season isn't capable of dominating a game purely from scoring when he's in his prime of his career and is a better shooter and has more of an effective post game (than previously)?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

That still doesn't answer my question. The way lebron has fine-tuned his game and added a near-unstoppable post game, how many PPG would he have this season if he just went all out?

It would go down bron would be easier to defend and his shot isn't as good as melo ...

lebron's PPG would go down if he had more of scoring mentality?

 

[23Barrettcity]

Yes, I know all this.

On the bolded - but that still doesn't make him a better scorer. You're telling me that Lebron can't dominate a game purely off his scoring ability? You're telling me lebron whose highest PPG is 31.4 in his third season isn't capable of dominating a game purely from scoring when he's in his prime of his career and is a better shooter and has more of an effective post game (than previously)?

The thing is you just want to hear that your right so why do keep asking these questions if you don't want to hear counterpoints ? if bron changed his game up he wouldn't be bron , his fg % would dip and they say he doesn't make players better and he wouldn't get calls

 

[23Barrettcity]

lebron's PPG would go down if he had more of scoring mentality?

If bron was just a scorer he wouldn't be the best player in the league he wouldn't get as many calls and he would be easier to defend . Just keep him out the post

 

[Kings County]

Tyson Chandler & Kenyon Martin COMBINED for 2 shots last night & Fat Boy had 3 assists, yet he gettin his teammates open shots?

Y'all Knicks fans taking this most delusional shyt to a new level

beat yall though

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Pardon my failure to puntuate dear sire.

Happy now? Or do i need to stay late after school for extra credit to make brings my grades up?

Punctuality had nothing to do with it.

 

[tone wone]

Durant is the best scorer in the league. He's a level above everyone else when it comes to getting buckets. His combination of elite shooting, elite foul drawing, elite transition game along with a vastly improved iso and pick n roll game is unmatched. NO ONE has this combo. Lebron, not Melo, is the only guy that comes close.

Melo's game has really changed over the years. I get the sense that most people think he was always the jab-step king (game consisting of mostly halfcourt iso/postups). Up until about 07/08 (Iverson trade) he played off the ball a lot. Caught a lot lobs from miller and Camby. He was also a GREAT transition player and had a strong catch n shoot game. He's really declined athletically. He wasn't a freak of nature like Bron/KD but he was great in the open court and could finish over nikkas if need be.

 

[USSInsiders]

Yes, I know all this.

On the bolded - but that still doesn't make him a better scorer. You're telling me that Lebron can't dominate a game purely off his scoring ability? You're telling me lebron whose highest PPG is 31.4 in his third season isn't capable of dominating a game purely from scoring when he's in his prime of his career and is a better shooter and has more of an effective post game (than previously)?

In my opinion, Carmelo Anthony is the more skilled of the two as far as scoring is concerned.

Of course LeBron is capable of dominating performances, that EXACTLY how he scores as much as he does every night. He's just purely unguardable from a match-up stand point, but I don't think it makes him more skilled. HOWEVER, LeBron is no where near as assertive as a Melo is and that is a double edged sword.

LeBron is far more cerebral across the board, but at times I think he's way too passive. He's a guy who plays with more confidence in earlier quarters, but he is better served deferring in late game situations because his offense is way too predictable. It's exactly why I'd rather have Melo with the ball in his hands with 8 seconds left than LeBron, and as good as LeBron is, I don't fear his scoring game as much as I fear a Kobe Bryant or Carmelo Anthony.

It's a completely relative argument and that's why I'm imploring you to define exactly what it is that makes one scorer over another in the context of your logic.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

the fg% isn't what determines the best scorer. The ability to gameplan for them defensively is.

Everybody knows that with Lebron you want to keep him out of the lane and force him to shoot from the perimeter. This season he has been shooting exceptionally well but thats the key word exception. He doesn't always shoot like this so if a defender had to choose they would rather give him an open three than an open dunk. Also his post game is improved but not yet lethal like the other players listed.

Lebron even said that carmelo is the toughest player in the league to defend one on one.

I never said fg% determines the better scorer.....

I used fg% for lebron because he's mindful of his and doesn't shots that he deems unnecessary.

lebron's post game isn't lethal? he's got near the most effective post game in the entire league. fukk is u talking bout?

lebron equating carmelo to being the toughest player in the league to defend don't mean shyt, if there was a player in the exact same mould as himself, he would be saying that player.