If you say Melo doesn't make his teammates...

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Bron probably score more points but his fg% would drop
Your talking as if all melo does is chuck up shots and shots 30% like he's Monta Ellis

No im not saying that about melo, where are you getting these imaginary arguments from? plus there's very lil difference between the 'chucking mentality' between both melo and monta. im using fg% solely for lebron, im not directly using it as a comparison to melo (although it does overlap). of course his fg% would drop, that goes without saying, the point is melo isn't a better scorer than lebron. there's basically nothing that supports that notion.

 

[USSInsiders]

lebron's PPG would go down if he had more of scoring mentality?

It would. Like I've said, LeBron is NOT going out there with the intent of scoring 50 a game, he's looking to defer and keep the team rolling as a whole.

 

[KingJudah]

Im going to be as objective as I can here as a knicks fan.

Melo

Pros- Can post up, pull up 3, pull up mid range jumper, spot up 3 and 2, get his own offensive rebound, bully ball with 2-3 defenders.driving ability on 1 or 2 dribbles.

Rebounding- he get's boards when he needs to, he knows where to position himself

Cons- Athleticism. just doesnt have the motor, doesnt hustle enough

defense- poor lateral quickness,

lack of intangibles



Lebron James-

Pros-Unmatched athleticism

Reading the defense making great passes at the right time, whether stationary or in transition. Great rebounder and offensive rebounder

Excellent at eluding defenders scoring in the paint

Serviceable jumper that has improved as of late.

Cons- Relies on other players , he makes great passes and is a great teammate in the same token his heart is shaky and unreliable if he is "the guy"

Overrated on ball defense, offensive players see him and pass the ball elsewhere, plenty of times he lets players blow by him.

questionable without assistance from referees. How many pts, assists etc would he have if he got calls like "regular" players.

 

[Bernie Madoff]

So now this thread has turned into who's a better scorer, lebron, durant, or melo? Melo is the best pure scorer in the league and its not even close. Bron and Durant get a lot more points in the fast break than melo.. Melo needs the least seperation to score in a iso, so he's the better scorer.

 

[thelonious21]

So you'd take Melo over Durant, Wade, Kobe & CP3 right now?

I dapped you cuz I would... Bron is the only nikka without argument that is better than Mel.

.I mean KD allergic to rebounding and D jus like melo.. but KD don't body. nikka like melo in the mid/ lo block

 

[Street Knowledge]

Durant is the best scorer in the league And has been for awhile now

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[Gil Scott-Heroin]

In my opinion, Carmelo Anthony is the more skilled of the two as far as scoring is concerned.

Of course LeBron is capable of dominating performances, that EXACTLY how he scores as much as he does every night. He's just purely unguardable from a match-up stand point, but I don't think it makes him more skilled. HOWEVER, LeBron is no where near as assertive as a Melo is and that is a double edged sword.

LeBron is far more cerebral across the board, but at times I think he's way too passive. He's a guy who plays with more confidence in earlier quarters, but he is better served deferring in late game situations because his offense is way too predictable. It's exactly why I'd rather have Melo with the ball in his hands with 8 seconds left than LeBron, and as good as LeBron is, I don't fear his scoring game as much as I fear a Kobe Bryant or Carmelo Anthony.

It's a completely relative argument and that's why I'm imploring you to define exactly what it is that makes one scorer over another in the context of your logic.

I never once said Lebron was more skilled-scoring wise. Not once. But that doesn't mean a more skilled-scorer is a better scorer. Your personal fears of one player's game over another in an 8-sec period out of a total of 2880 doesn't equate to one being a better scorer, either. And that really isn't even in-tune with how he handles late-game situations anymore anyway, they've been countless times this season and in the playoffs last season where he's bought them back in 4th quarters. At the end of the day 'passiveness' really doesn't come into it, when lebron put up 30+ PPG in cleveland.

 

[23Barrettcity]

Durant is the best scorer in the league And has been for awhile now

Naw his nonexistent post game says different, and is the reason the thunder won't beat the heat . A jump shooting team that turns over the ball over the heat will be getting like 15 points free

 

[Luke Cage]

I never said fg% determines the better scorer.....

I used fg% for lebron because he's mindful of his and doesn't shots that he deems unnecessary.

lebron's post game isn't lethal? he's got near the most effective post game in the entire league. fukk is u talking bout?

lebron equating carmelo to being the toughest player in the league to defend don't mean shyt, if there was a player in the exact same mould as himself, he would be saying that player.

lebron is not a lethal post scorer. he scores like 6 point a game in the post. and he only goes to the post when there is a size mismatched. he developed that aspect specifically because of jason kidd being able to defend him when the mavs won the chip. He's gotten pretty good with it but he has a much higher ceiling.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

It would. Like I've said, LeBron is NOT going out there with the intent of scoring 50 a game, he's looking to defer and keep the team rolling as a whole.

that doesn't make any sense. im proposing the idea if lebron did go out there with the sole intent of scoring and only passing when necessary. there's no possible explanation to back up claims of: 'he would have a lower PPG avg if he had more of a scoring mentality'.

 

[Street Knowledge]

Naw his nonexistent post game says different

He scores more on much better efficiency. How is he not a better scorer?

What did melo's post game do for him in the playoffs?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

lebron is not a lethal post scorer. he scores like 6 point a game in the post. and he only goes to the post when there is a size mismatched. he developed that aspect specifically because of jason kidd being able to defend him when the mavs won the chip. He's gotten pretty good with it but he has a much higher ceiling.

Lebron's post game is about as effective as it will ever get. He's a mismatch in the post 99% of the time he's guarded. Too quick for bigger players and too big/strong for smaller players. His post game (as minimal post moves he has) is one of the most effective post games for a wing in the league. saying any different is just wrong.

 

[tone wone]

In my opinion, Carmelo Anthony is the more skilled of the two as far as scoring is concerned.

Of course LeBron is capable of dominating performances, that EXACTLY how he scores as much as he does every night. He's just purely unguardable from a match-up stand point, but I don't think it makes him more skilled. HOWEVER, LeBron is no where near as assertive as a Melo is and that is a double edged sword.

LeBron is far more cerebral across the board, but at times I think he's way too passive. He's a guy who plays with more confidence in earlier quarters, but he is better served deferring in late game situations because his offense is way too predictable. It's exactly why I'd rather have Melo with the ball in his hands with 8 seconds left than LeBron, and as good as LeBron is, I don't fear his scoring game as much as I fear a Kobe Bryant or Carmelo Anthony.

Passive Lebron is a Miami narrative. This wasn't AT ALL the case in Cleveland.

For one, the team lacked reliable primary scorers to allow him to pick his spots. He was the "hub" offensively 99percent of the time. There was no one for him to play off of. If you replaced 2010 Bron on that cavs team with the 2013 version, he'd average at least 32ppg on 50%+ EASIlY. Wasn't as aware of his efficiency then....the nikka chucked damn near 400 3's on a measly 33% in 2010.

Honestly, from a skills standpoint Melo isn't really better than Lebron at anything other than FT shooting.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

So now this thread has turned into who's a better scorer, lebron, durant, or melo? Melo is the best pure scorer in the league and its not even close. Bron and Durant get a lot more points in the fast break than melo.. Melo needs the least seperation to score in a iso, so he's the better scorer.

That doesn't make him a better scorer

you guys come up with the most stupidest arguments.

 

[USSInsiders]

I never once said Lebron was more skilled-scoring wise. Not once. But that doesn't mean a more skilled-scorer is a better scorer. Your personal fears of one player's game over another in an 8-sec period out of a total of 2880 doesn't equate to one being a better scorer, either. And that really isn't even in-tune with how he handles late-game situations anymore anyway, they've been countless times this season and in the playoffs last season where he's bought them back in 4th quarters. At the end of the day 'passiveness' really doesn't come into it, when lebron put up 30+ PPG in cleveland.

I know you didn't say that, but I neither said you did nor didn't. You're either incapable or unwilling to tell me what makes a better scorer in your mind.

You're clinging to stats way too much for me to honestly believe you're capable of giving me an anecdotal break down, and it's basketball fans like you I have trouble taking seriously.

Yes, LeBron has had impressive scoring performances in spots, but he is a passive player going back to Cleveland. If you still think points per game determine a player's assertiveness or lack thereof, then I would strongly suggest you look up the definition of the word, "context".

Also, if you didn't understand my point in bringing up the scoring in low shot clock situations to determine the skill of a scorer then...