If you were awarded 350K.....

Would you accept the contract?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 50.0%
  • No

    Votes: 2 33.3%
  • Maybe with more money

    Votes: 1 16.7%

  • Total voters
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Now if you gave me 350K and work with the existing city budget to find creative solutions to reduce crime...then now we're talking. But that right there is the reason most people consider consultants useless.


So you believe that it takes money for people to stop homicides/murder?
Also I'm giving you what's in bold, you are working with an existing cities budgets to find solutions
 

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So you believe that it takes money for people to stop homicides/murder?
Also I'm giving you what's in bold, you are working with an existing cities budgets to find solutions

Money is a motivator. Most crime is a byproduct of goods and services exchanged. What do we use to make those transactions?

A green piece of paper.
 

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Not enough money. Your thread premise is silly. But go ahead and cook.
 

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Not enough money. Your thread premise is silly. But go ahead and cook.

Lot of people are saying "money" but not saying how this "money" will bring homicides down. Also on the first page, 10 of the poorest towns in the country also face "money" issues in a way but have a very low homicide/murder rate if any at all.
 

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Money is a motivator. Most crime is a byproduct of goods and services exchanged. What do we use to make those transactions?

A green piece of paper.

What do you say to the 10 poorest towns in the US on PAGE 1 who also do not have money, how do they keep their homicides/murders down?
 

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What do you say to the 10 poorest towns in the US on PAGE 1 who also do not have money, how do they keep their homicides/murders down?

I would get more money from the county. You can't solve systemic crime with 350K.

Like my options initially indicated, you need to do something drastic that most likely wouldn't work, and even if they did it would only be a temporary strike.

Systemic crime is typically a by product of economics. Drug usage, poverty, joblessness, etc...and the only way you can combat that is with money or.................eradicating money.........
 

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I would get more money from the county. You can't solve systemic crime with 350K.

Like my options initially indicated, you need to do something drastic that most likely wouldn't work, and even if they did it would only be a temporary strike.

Systemic crime is typically a by product of economics. Drug usage, poverty, joblessness, etc...and the only way you can combat that is with money or.................eradicating money.........



I think the better question would be how to get these cities to have low murders like the cities below: Actually the cities in this first list have way more money/resources than the bottom 10 cities.


Big Cities With The Highest Murder Rates


St. Louis, Missouri 49.91
Detroit, Michigan 43.52
New Orleans, Louisiana 38.75
Baltimore, Maryland 33.84
Newark, New Jersey 33.32
Buffalo, New York 23.22
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 22.43
Memphis, Tennessee 21.38
Atlanta, Georgia 20.47
Cincinati, Ohio 20.16


FBI's Violent Crime Statistics For Every City In America



The Top 10 Poorest Cities in the Country

10. Lake Havasu City-Kingman, AZ

  • Median household income: $37,674
  • Median home value: $120,200
  • Unemployment rate: 8.7%
  • Poverty rate: 20.6%
9. Grants Pass, OR

  • Median household income: $36,870
  • Median home value: $213,100
  • Unemployment rate: 8.2%
  • Poverty rate: 19.6%
8. Sumter, SC

  • Median household income: $36,633
  • Median home value: $111,100
  • Unemployment rate: 7.4%
  • Poverty rate: 24.1%
7. Valdosta, GA

  • Median household income: $36,340
  • Median home value: $110,900
  • Unemployment rate: 6.2%
  • Poverty rate: 26.0%
6. Sebring, FL

  • Median household income: $36,120
  • Median home value: $80,800
  • Unemployment rate: 7.8%
  • Poverty rate: 18.1%
5. Goldsboro, NC

  • Median household income: $35,966
  • Median home value: $105,700
  • Unemployment rate: 6.7%
  • Poverty rate: 25.5%
4. Homosassa Springs, FL

  • Median household income: $35,671
  • Median home value: $116,300
  • Unemployment rate: 7.6%
  • Poverty rate: 21.2%
3. McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, TX

  • Median household income: $34,801
  • Median home value: $79,400
  • Unemployment rate: 7.9%
  • Poverty rate: 34.0%
2. Pine Bluff, AR

  • Median household income: $33,838
  • Median home value: $80,200
  • Unemployment rate: 7.5%
  • Poverty rate: 26.2%
1. Brownsville-Harlingen, TX

  • Median household income: $32,093
  • Median home value: $76,200
  • Unemployment rate: 6.8%
  • Poverty rate: 35.2%
The 25 Richest and Poorest American Cities
 

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I think the better question would be how to get these cities to have low murders like the cities below: Actually the cities in this first list have way more money/resources than the bottom 10 cities.


Big Cities With The Highest Murder Rates


St. Louis, Missouri 49.91
/Detroit, Michigan 43.52
New Orleans, Louisiana 38.75
/Baltimore, Maryland 33.84
Newark, New Jersey 33.32
Buffalo, New York 23.22
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 22.43
/Memphis, Tennessee 21.38
/Atlanta, Georgia 20.47
Cincinati, Ohio 20.16


FBI's Violent Crime Statistics For Every City In America



The Top 10 Poorest Cities in the Country

10. Lake Havasu City-Kingman, AZ

  • Median household income: $37,674
  • Median home value: $120,200
  • Unemployment rate: 8.7%
  • Poverty rate: 20.6%
9. Grants Pass, OR

  • Median household income: $36,870
  • Median home value: $213,100
  • Unemployment rate: 8.2%
  • Poverty rate: 19.6%
8. Sumter, SC

  • Median household income: $36,633
  • Median home value: $111,100
  • Unemployment rate: 7.4%
  • Poverty rate: 24.1%
7. Valdosta, GA

  • Median household income: $36,340
  • Median home value: $110,900
  • Unemployment rate: 6.2%
  • Poverty rate: 26.0%
6. Sebring, FL

  • Median household income: $36,120
  • Median home value: $80,800
  • Unemployment rate: 7.8%
  • Poverty rate: 18.1%
5. Goldsboro, NC

  • Median household income: $35,966
  • Median home value: $105,700
  • Unemployment rate: 6.7%
  • Poverty rate: 25.5%
4. Homosassa Springs, FL

  • Median household income: $35,671
  • Median home value: $116,300
  • Unemployment rate: 7.6%
  • Poverty rate: 21.2%
3. McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, TX

  • Median household income: $34,801
  • Median home value: $79,400
  • Unemployment rate: 7.9%
  • Poverty rate: 34.0%
2. Pine Bluff, AR

  • Median household income: $33,838
  • Median home value: $80,200
  • Unemployment rate: 7.5%
  • Poverty rate: 26.2%
1. Brownsville-Harlingen, TX

  • Median household income: $32,093
  • Median home value: $76,200
  • Unemployment rate: 6.8%
  • Poverty rate: 35.2%
The 25 Richest and Poorest American Cities


When you say these cities, do you mean the ones you are referring to in your post? If so...let's look at the geography of all those cities and look at the industries that built them up, and then left gaping holes in employment when they pulled out. All of those cities are relics of a post-industrial society.

Straight from BLS.gov


1 Omaha city, NE 5.0
2 Oklahoma City city, OK 5.6
3 Honolulu County/city, HI 6.0
4 Austin city, TX 6.2
5 Virginia Beach city, VA 6.5
6 Minneapolis city, MN 6.9
6 Tulsa city, OK 6.9
8 San Antonio city, TX 7.0
9 Albuquerque city, NM 7.3
10 Raleigh city, NC 7.5
11 Boston city, MA 7.6
12 Fort Worth city, TX 7.9
13 Houston city, TX 8.0
13 Seattle city, WA 8.0
15 Nashville-Davidson (consolidated) city, TN 8.2
16 Dallas city, TX 8.5
16 El Paso city, TX 8.5
18 Columbus city, OH 8.9
18 San Francisco County/city, CA 8.9
20 Charlotte city, NC 9.1
20 Denver County/city, CO 9.1
22 Portland city, OR 9.4
22 Washington city, DC 9.4
24 New York city, NY 9.5
24 Wichita city, KS 9.5
26 Colorado Springs city, CO 9.6
27 Mesa city, AZ 9.7
28 Kansas City city, MO 10.0
28 Louisville-Jefferson County (consolidated) city, KY 10.0
30 San Diego city, CA 10.3
31 Phoenix city, AZ 10.5
31 Tucson city, AZ 10.5
33 Indianapolis (consolidated) city, IN 10.6
33 Philadelphia County/city, PA 10.6
35 Cleveland city, OH 10.8
36 Memphis city, TN 10.9
36 Miami city, FL 10.9
38 Jacksonville city, FL 11.1
39 Baltimore city, MD 11.2
39 Chicago city, IL 11.2
41 Atlanta city, GA 11.3
42 San Jose city, CA 11.6
43 Milwaukee city, WI 11.9
44 Los Angeles city, CA 13.2
45 Oakland city, CA 13.3
45 Sacramento city, CA 13.3
47 Long Beach city, CA 13.6
48 Las Vegas city, NV 14.3
49 Fresno city, CA 18.0
50 Detroit city, MI 24.8


While that's not all of the cities listed, you can also look at the demographics by race and see if that correlates with the percentage of perpetrators. Crime generally is an economic problem, violent crime anyway.

You need to create both short term and long term fixes to the education and employment problems in those cities.

A lot of those cities have crumbling infrastructure. I would advise creating jobs fixing the roads, bridges, electrical grid, plumbing, everything from the top down to create jobs in the next 2-10 years. I would then work on revising the education system to train kids for the next generation jobs, not factory jobs, not manual labor jobs...most inner-city schools, in my experience as I am a product of both public and private, only prepare you for jobs that are outgoing and outsourcing.

If we continue at this rate, and quite honestly its already here, you are creating an America with great wealth and great poverty, with no in-between and no chance to ascend.

You need more than 350K.

I would come up with some creative solutions for 350K, but you are not solving the problem in any size city with 350K.
 

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While that's not all of the cities listed, you can also look at the demographics by race and see if that correlates with the percentage of perpetrators. Crime generally is an economic problem, violent crime anyway.

You need to create both short term and long term fixes to the education and employment problems in those cities.

A lot of those cities have crumbling infrastructure. I would advise creating jobs fixing the roads, bridges, electrical grid, plumbing, everything from the top down to create jobs in the next 2-10 years. I would then work on revising the education system to train kids for the next generation jobs, not factory jobs, not manual labor jobs...most inner-city schools, in my experience as I am a product of both public and private, only prepare you for jobs that are outgoing and outsourcing.

If we continue at this rate, and quite honestly its already here, you are creating an America with great wealth and great poverty, with no in-between and no chance to ascend.

You need more than 350K.

I would come up with some creative solutions for 350K, but you are not solving the problem in any size city with 350K.

Good post. Don't discredit the manual labor fields though, lot of people making great money being HVAC/Plumbers/Electricians ETC. The Hard Trade will never go away.
 

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You are acting as a corporation that's contracting your services to a municipality:

Any one of the below:

The bay area ain't making no noise as I been saying. Only Oakland is on one chart for overall crime and that's per capita. Northern California is a suburb.
 

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that's a good question. it's definitely not a quick fix, down 40% in 12 months? lemme get my marty kaan on, run some numbers thru some spreadsheets i'll get back to you in a second chief
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that's a good question. it's definitely not a quick fix, down 40% in 12 months? lemme get my marty kaan on, run some numbers thru some spreadsheets i'll get back to you in a second chief

40% strictly homicides/murder numbers not other violent crime. Strictly those
 

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General consensus is that money will not fix a "street culture" issue like this.
 
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