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The Hard Numbers
More than 40% of Americans between the ages of 25 and 60 will be poor for at least a year of their lives. Over the same period, more than half of Americans will be poor or nearly poor, with income at 150% of the poverty line. Today, more than 47 million Americans live in poverty, including 1 in 5 children. Locally, in Allegheny County, 12.7% of the overall population (roughly 155,000 people, including 43,000 children), live at or below the poverty line according to the
U.S. Census Bureau. In 2013, the federal government placed the poverty line at a maximum of $23,550 in gross cash income for a family of four; $19,530 for a family of three; $15,510 for a family of two, and $11,490 for an individual.
Myths and Stereotypes about Poverty
People living in poverty have to make tough choices with their money all day, every day, with no room for error but plenty of judgment from others. Many people who do not live in poverty have a tendency to criticize the poor and blame them for their supposed laziness, lack of intelligence, or willingness to make bad decisions. They believe in a just world, where the poor must have done something to deserve their fate.
This belief helps fuel the many myths and stereotypes that negatively impact those living in poverty in the U.S. Here are just a few of them:
MYTH: Poor people are unmotivated and have weak work ethics.
The Reality: Poor people do not have weaker work ethics or lower levels of motivation than wealthier people. Al- though poor people are often stereotyped as lazy, two-thirds of people living in poverty work an average of 1.7 jobs; 83% of children from low-income families have at least one employed parent; and close to 60% of children have at least one parent who works full-time and year-round. According to the Economic Policy Institute, poor working adults spend more hours working each week than their wealthier counterparts.
➢ MYTH: A huge chunk of my tax dollars supports welfare recipients.
The Reality: Welfare costs about 1% of the Federal Budget. The majority of those living in poverty do not receive gov- ernment welfare assistance.
➢ MYTH: Those who get on welfare stay on welfare.
The Reality: Of the poor that receive welfare assistance, more than half stop receiving benefits after a year, 70% within two years, and 85% within four years.
➢ MYTH: Social mobility is possible by working hard.
The Reality: This is not our grandfathers’ era where people could simply “pull themselves up by their bootstraps,” assuming that was ever really true. Our current economy requires workers to be more skilled than in the past. Mean- while, jobs for unskilled workers simply don’t pay enough. The minimum wage 50 years ago was worth $15.29 in 2014 dollars. Today, an education provides the bootstraps people need for social mobility. However, many people who live in poverty cannot afford the costs associated with secondary education.
➢ MYTH: Poor parents are uninvolved in their children’s learning, largely because they do not value education.
The Reality: Low-income parents hold the same attitudes about education that wealthy parents do.
Low-income parents might be less likely to attend school functions or volunteer in their children’s classrooms—not because they care less about education, but because they have less access to school involvement than their wealthier peers. They are more likely to work multiple jobs, to work evenings, to have jobs without paid leave, and to be unable to afford child care and public transportation.
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JUST HARVEST January, 2015
➢ MYTH: Poor people have babies to get more welfare.
The Reality: Welfare recipients in Pennsylvania receive $83 per month for additional children is – well below the costs
of raising a child – and in some states the amount is zero. The average welfare family is no larger than the average non-recipient American family. Welfare benefits are not a significant incentive for childbearing.
MYTH: Poverty has little lasting impact on children.
The Reality: Research is clear that poverty is the single greatest threat to children’s well-being.
Poverty can impede children’s ability to learn and contribute to social, emotional, and behavioral problems. Poverty also can contribute to poor physical and mental health, and poor self-esteem. Risks are greatest for children who expe- rience poverty when they are young and/or experience deep and persistent poverty.
➢ MYTH: Poverty is a minority issue.
The Reality: Poverty is not solely a minority issue. Poverty affects people of all races. Of the
Americans living in poverty today, 42% are White, 29% are Hispanic or Latino, 25% are Black or African American, and 4% are Asian. However, poverty has a disparate impact on people of color.
➢ MYTH: Poor people tend to abuse drugs and alcohol.
The Reality: Poor people are no more likely than their wealthier counterparts to abuse alcohol or drugs. Although
drug sales are more visible in poor neighborhoods, drug use is equally distributed across poor, middle class, and wealthy communities. Studies have found that alcohol consumption is significantly higher among upper middle class white high school students than among poor black high school students. This finding supports a history of research showing that alcohol abuse is far more prevalent among wealthy people than among poor people.

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BArack Obama and Michelle Obama occupied the highest office in the land for 8 years...and STILL experienced racism.

No one is saying that racism and white supremacy will make it impossible for black people to become successful, many have and many are...it just puts unneccessary roadblocks in the way of that path of success and makes it harder to achieve it. Not to say it's not obtainable...but have yo momma and daddy ever gave you that landmark black folk speech...that you have to work twice as hard to be considered half as good in this society?

White privilege allows white people to succeed or live comfortably despite being average, below average, or just plain mediocre as hell.

Meanwhile, Black people damn near have to be perfect to succeed and accel in corporate america, academia, law, government, etc...let alone to get noticed We can't half ass anything.



These two links should be posted in every @Basil of Baker Street thread, he should never be allowed to live that down.
 

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:mjlol: you bootstrap folks love to talk about the value of hard-work like most folks ain't trying to grow and get better. Truth is:

  • You can't quit your job, because hiring is on some bullshyt even with skilled labour. you might be out for a longtime b4 you even get an interview. Also, some of yall can't even take the cut of zero income for at least 3 months.
  • You can't move because moving another city also cost money to do. And you'd be dumb as hell not moving without a job in place and place to stay.
And don't talk to me about WS comes into play, because that's could be paragraphs. Think money equals success is one thing, but then thinking money/prestige somehow bypasses racism is :russ:
 
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After that education thread, I’m not surprised. There’s a constant influx of alt-right ideas made to shift discourse from dismantling white supremacy to “its ur fault if u don’t get ur piece of the pie”.

I actually agree that we are to be blamed. But not in the way OP is thinking.

We as a people are to be blamed for accepting this shyt and not burning this entire fukking system down.

1.) It IS our faults that we allow corporate bullies to shift our dumb ass attention away from shyt like this
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to this
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2.) It is our faults that we are more likely to tell people that they are supposed to overlook the impact of shyt like this
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and fooled into telling people that if they just work harder that will be enough.

We too easily fooled and our collective low self-esteem forces us to hold ourselves accountable in the wrong ways.

Before we do anything we need to wake people up.
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None of this is our faults
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But if we continue being fooled down this “don’t worry bout what they doing at the top, pull urself up” nonsense, we will be completely responsible for tacitly allowing ourselves to be led to the witches’ house following the breadcrumbs the wealthy left and blaming the poor when we all in the oven.

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"We as a people are to be blamed for accepting this shyt and not burning this entire fukking system down."

Then you actually do agree then. That's exactly what I said in my op!
 
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BArack Obama and Michelle Obama occupied the highest office in the land for 8 years...and STILL experienced racism.

No one is saying that racism and white supremacy will make it impossible for black people to become successful, many have and many are...it just puts unneccessary roadblocks in the way of that path of success and makes it harder to achieve it. Not to say it's not obtainable...but have yo momma and daddy ever gave you that landmark black folk speech...that you have to work twice as hard to be considered half as good in this society?

White privilege allows white people to succeed or live comfortably despite being average, below average, or just plain mediocre as hell.

Meanwhile, Black people damn near have to be perfect to succeed and accel in corporate america, academia, law, government, etc...let alone to get noticed We can't half ass anything.




These two links should be posted in every @Basil of Baker Street thread, he should never be allowed to live that down.

Black people damn near have to be perfect to succeed and accel in corporate america, academia, law, government, etc...let alone to get noticed We can't half ass anything.

This is definitely not true. I'm no where near perfect, I've honestly half assed certain things and I'm doing fairly well.

More excuses. All this thread is filled with pathetic excuses.

This thread is positive. This thread tells you to go get what you want. A lot of people in this thread are making excuses of why they don't or black people in general don't have what we want.

fukking pathetic.
 

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Why are you doing this? This really has nothing to do with this thread.
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Because u created this great discussion, and I want people to be informed. U inspired me! It is our faults and until we become informed about the beast we are fighting and burn it to the ground, we will continue to be ground up in the gears of an evil system!

This is awesome! Fighting the misinformation machine is the FIRST step! I love it! Thanks! Great stuff. Truly!
 
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Most of us are not complaining about White Supremacy because we aren’t successful.

I could write multiple paragraphs on what White Supremacy is and how it affects the world ...

but I’m not giving you the back and forth you’re looking for Cac ... just hold this neg and stfu
Because you don’t really have shyt to say. Might as well not even come into this thread you coward.
 

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I'm tired of hearing a lot of people on here complaining about white supremacy not allowing them to make money. White supremacy not allowing them to advance. It's bullshyt and it's embarrassing. If someone won't give you something then you take it. You go for it. You find out how to make your own way. One door closes another one opens.

I am a verified black man. My parents did not help me for shyt for me to achieve what I got now. I paid my own way and everything I have I worked and got on my own.

If your job isn't giving you what you want, give an ultimatum, if they're not rocking with it, quit. (that's what I did)

If no one is responding to your job search, move. (that's what I did, to a brand new area I've never lived where no friends or family are)

If you don't know something, learn that shyt, sell your ability to learn it on the job or fake it until you make it. (this I sure as hell did. I've been to plenty of interviews where I did not know shyt but I told them I'm more than willing and able to learn it and got back to them about the interview questions I didn't know)

A feeling of hopelessness and stagnation is what your enemy/opposition whoever that may be wants. If you throw up your hands and give up, you've lost.

Be brave. Quit your job. Get fired even. Step out of your comfort zone. Explore new options. And never, stop fighting. :salute:

Some shyt you just can't speak on in the company of losers. Guaranteed backlash.
 
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