If You're the Breadwinner...

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Wouldn’t x have to behave differently than y to get to that position?? :jbhmm:

No one has denied men and women working together is the ideal. But women behaving equally to men will only lead to chaos. Same if men behave like women. X and Y have their own individual roles and are not equal in any way. One is not greater than the other, they just have different roles and without either playing those roles, there is no destination.

Thanks for that example btw :mjgrin:
LOL the term "equal" is really where we are splitting hairs. In the case of a set of coordinates, x and y are EQUALLY necessary to form a specific point, although their roles and value in the equation are different. Equality for me starts with a person's capability, hell even willingness to some degree. Say a man want's his woman to run their business, the woman should be equally business minded and capable before anything. Otherwise it will fail.
 

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If that is what a couple wants to do then :manny:

You gotta be able to separate sex from love though and a lot of people don't know how to do that eventhough they have desires to sleep with other people from time to time.

More money equals more power and power leads to infidelity amongst powerful men and women...imo of course
 

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No that doesn’t make sense :mjlol:

That’s your female defense mechanism kicking in

In that post you quoted even she made it a point to emphasize a man had to build himself into someone desirable in order to have access to a lot of women more often than not while women have access to a lot of men for no reason other than being a woman. She doesn’t have to be charismatic, ambitious, successful etc. she doesn’t even have to be attractive.

It’s no different than taking 2 people who became successful. One was born and raised into poverty while the other comes from a family with money and connections, had a silver spoon in their mouth. Both grow up and become equally successful. One had to actually develop ambition, work ethic, perseverance, etc. while the other just pretty much had everything handed to them. Which one would you respect more? :jbhmm:

So overly attractive men who have sex easily aren't respected among males right?

:pachaha:

Why don't ya'll just say that you think having sex with men brings down the value of women and the more sex a woman has with ya'll the less valuable she is? But you won't do that because it implies that having sex with ya'll is toxic.

:russ:
 

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Men and women are equal as persons but unequal in other ways.

With that being said, this thread is about "high value men" so I think the agreed upon definition is this is a man with means who does not need to rely on his partner for any (financial) assistance, right?

1. This thread is not about high value men. I said breadwinner. Meaning you make the majority of the money. You can be a breadwinner but still need your partner to sustain a certain lifestyle.

2. You keep saying you exited this conversation and then come back throwing shade about women. You don't need to get sassy because you have a differing opinion.
 
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1. This thread is not about high value men. I said breadwinner. Meaning you make the majority of the money. You can be a breadwinner but still need you partner to sustain a certain lifestyle.

2. You keep saying you exited this conversation and then come back throwing shade about women. You don't need to get sassy because you have a differing opinion.





Somebody tagged me and I came in to respond to stuff that was said to and about me.

Good day ma'am.
 

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So overly attractive men who have sex easily aren't respected among males right?

:pachaha:

Why don't ya'll just say that you think having sex with men brings down the value of women and the more sex a woman has with ya'll the less valuable she is? But you won't do that because it implies that having sex with ya'll is toxic.

:russ:

I already accounted for men who get women based on looks that’s why I said “more often than not” and nowhere did I say those men aren’t respected among men. But those men are the extreme minority. Even you said you can go long periods of time without even seeing one of these men in real life.

You read what you want to read and make women the victim in every scenario. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you say women are wrong in any of these discussions meanwhile we are quick to point out when a man is full of shyt.

A man has to be exceptional to get a lot of sex partners, women don’t. There is no scenario where a person gets the same respect for having something handed to them as someone who has to actually be exceptional to get the equivalent.
 

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If that is what a couple wants to do then :manny:

You gotta be able to separate sex from love though and a lot of people don't know how to do that eventhough they have desires to sleep with other people from time to time.

More money equals more power and power leads to infidelity amongst powerful men and women...imo of course

If that's the case a woman could stop having sex with their husband and still be consider a good loving wife. But that would never fly.
 
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You quoted @Booksnrain so you could openly diss her to another poster breh. Stop.





Here go the lies and outright deception and lack of honesty yet again.

If you would look over the posts instead of looking for a gotcha moment, you will see that the other poster who tagged me was having a discussion with @Booksnrain about my points being right, and then Books started speaking on my points saying they were wrong, and then I responded to that.

I know you saw that. There's no way you could have seen what he said and what she said and not seen that I was responding to that.

But again, you are a purveyor of intellectual dishonesty, which was why I ended further discussion with you on this topic in the first place.
 

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I already accounted for men who get women based on looks that’s why I said “more often than not” and nowhere did I say those men aren’t respected among men. But those men are the extreme minority. Even you said you can go long periods of time without even seeing one of these men in real life.

You read what you want to read and make women the victim in every scenario. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you say women are wrong in any of these discussions meanwhile we are quick to point out when a man is full of shyt.

A man has to be exceptional to get a lot of sex partners, women don’t. There is no scenario where a person gets the same respect for having something handed to them as someone who has to actually be exceptional to get the equivalent.

You read what you wanna read.

I asked you if men who have sex easily are regarded with less respect than men who have to "work for it." It was a rhetorical question because we both know that you guys don't respect them less.

That just proves the point that it's really not about "work." It's about your idea about sex and how women should conduct themselves in regards to sexual behavior.

And I don't see women as victims. I am just using logic.

Women with low body count = good
Women with high body count = bad

Therefore the sex with men decreases the value of women. Therefore sexual activity with men is socially toxic to women.

:yeshrug:

Ya'll hate to hear it like that but if one is true so is the other.
 

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Some parts of this makes sense but how van female hypergamy be used to justify promiscuity? Female hypergamy is one man multiple women are willing to share because they’d prefer that over settling. If anything, female hypergamy justifies male promiscuity. Female hypergamy is not one woman fukking multiple high quality men especially when there is a shortage of high quality men in the first place.
Nah female hypergamy is grass is always greener mentality my dear and, women constantly seeking to fukk vertically can rack up bodies just as easily as men seeking to fukk other women.:yeshrug: Both genders have different biological drives to be promiscuous but both also have the choice to control those urges to build healthy and safe environments for themselves and their offspring.
For women It’s not about quantity, although operating in that framework can indeed rack up the numbers.
Its about the constant search for better quality. That’s a base biological impetus within women. The reason culturally they say “she’s never satisfied”. It’s the pursuit of the “better male partner” and it can drive women to constantly be on the lookout for the next best thing or dikk if she doesn’t make the choice to control herself.

It’s the reason some evolutionary anthropologists once theorized that women make sounds during sex to alert male competitors. The reason why women get turned on by men fighting over her. The “deez hoes ain’t loyal” syndrome...If you will.
Promiscuity works differently in men and women. In men it’s used to maximize reproduction. Fukk as much as possible. In women it’s biological damage control to ensure she is procreating with the best males during her peak reproductive years. Taken to extremes, either can be ruthless with men having harems, and women being stone cold with it as soon as the bigger, better guy comes along. However, neither actions are conducive to maximizing quality of life for offspring, so we as a species eventually learned this thing called monogamy...or as one of my anthropologist friends calls it “evolutionary settling”:mjlol:
Basically, men fukking everybody and women leaving men to fukk the next best thing resulted in chaos for the offspring their biological impulses were trying to get them to produce. War, death, all kinds of shyt. So we learned to strike a balance. Men said, “there will always be warm holes to fukk, but this chick actually improves my life so I’ll chill.
Women said “there’s always going to be somebody else that could make my thighs shake but he’s safe and provides stability for my offspring, so Imma chill.”

Once again, as I stated before in this thread...I only make men aware of this dynamic in females because many like trying to justify their cheating off a biological basis, but wanna get incensed when confronted with the fact that women acting on their biology could result in similar cheating issues albeit for different reasons. Regardless, both men and women have to make a commitment to overcome their desires to maximize their quality of life for themselves and their offspring. Or...don’t marry.

It’s really simple.:yeshrug:It only gets complicated when one side tries to leverage power dynamics such as financial contributions made to a relationship to justify giving in to their base biological impetus. (I.e. “I make the money so I should be able to cheat and she needs to get over it.”:troll:):mjlol:
 

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Here go the lies and outright deception and lack of honesty yet again.

If you would look over the posts instead of looking for a gotcha moment, you will see that the other poster who tagged me was having a discussion with @Booksnrain about my points being right, and then Books started speaking on my points saying they were wrong, and then I responded to that.

I know you saw that. There's no way you could have seen what he said and what she said and not seen that I was responding to that.

But again, you are a purveyor of intellectual dishonesty, which was why I ended further discussion with you on this topic in the first place.

Okay but why not address the person instead of being like "Omg look at this. Look what she said." Like he isn't reading the same thread you are. Lol You're the only one in the thread doing that. And you've done it multiple times. It's just very sassy. I mean we are all here to have a discussion. Why get all ruffled?
 
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Okay but why not address they person instead of being like "Omg look at this. Look what she said." Like he isn't reading the same thread you are. Lol You're the only one in the thread doing that. And you've done it multiple times. It's just very sassy. I mean we are all here to have a discussion. Why get all ruffled?





good day ma'am. cause I know you know that's not what I did.

But you'll say anything to be right, right?

good day
 
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