Illegals should be able to vote :manny:

[theworldismine13]

You've never been woke.

 

[Uncle Hotep]

I'm a successful black man who grew up with poor parents in a tough part of town.

But my parents gave me the attention needed, the freedom to explore my dreams as well as fail within reason, taught me work ethic, and an understanding of what it means to be responsible and hold yourself accountable.

Because of that I was prepared when opportunity presented itself and because of that I was able to receive more opportunity.

I genuinely believe being prepared for opportunity and taking advantage of it is something that gets people ahead.

If you fail to recognize it or pass it up you aren't, especially as a black person in this country, guaranteed another chance.

All that's to say, dream big for once and get off this petty crusade over minimum wage jobs and your obsession with Hispanics. It's corny and honestly it doesn't help black people transcend their position.

Further, I don't really plan to be lectured by someone who I feel, based on your posts, is less successful.

very Hotep

 

[Pressure]

Nope. Are you suggesting that there weren't variances in slavery according to state and region?


There were definitely differences, especially when it came to identity and societal formation in those areas.


You should check out this book. Its pretty good.

https://books.google.com/books/about/Negras_in_Brazil.html?id=uFLaAAAAMAAJ

You've gone very far off topic to attempt to be right.

What I've said is their differences in slavery conditions between regions in the US and outside would have no different affect on how they vote.

Twism13 and you through your defense are suggesting that illegal immigrants would be more racist because of slave conditions. Not taking into account who is likely to migrate illegally.

You're appealing to emotions without much logic.

Stay on topic.

 

[General Mills]

I fell asleep around the second paragraph

You've never been woke.

that comeback tho

 

[southpawstyle]

You've gone very far off topic to attempt to be right.

What I've said is their differences in slavery conditions between regions in the US and outside would have no different affect on how they vote.

Twism13 and you through your defense are suggesting that illegal immigrants would be more racist because of slave conditions. Not taking into account who is likely to migrate illegally.

You're appealing to emotions without much logic.

Stay on topic.

I was only responding to you saying

Come on man. There's no discernible difference as they were a part of essentially the same slave trade.

No need to appeal to emotions here.

You gonna report me to the mods or something?

 

[theworldismine13]

that comeback tho

it would have been funny if he was a hotep type poster, but coming from a black liberal c00n its dumb

 

[theworldismine13]

You've gone very far off topic to attempt to be right.

What I've said is their differences in slavery conditions between regions in the US and outside would have no different affect on how they vote.

Twism13 and you through your defense are suggesting that illegal immigrants would be more racist because of slave conditions. Not taking into account who is likely to migrate illegally.

You're appealing to emotions without much logic.

Stay on topic.

im not appealing to emotions, im just stating facts that latin america is just as racist against black people as the united states, it defies logic to think that people that immigrate from latin america are going to unite with black people to fight against white supremacy

you cant fight white supremacy with white supremacy, black people will end up being screwed with that strategy

and in fact it is you who is engaging in emotion by 1) some corny ass bio essay that made me fall asleep and which has no defense to the assertion of you being a coward 2) by trying to arouse sympathy for illegal immigrants when in instead black people should engage in cold, logical geopolitical analyses

 

[Pressure]

im not appealing to emotions, im just stating facts that latin america is just as racist against black people as the united states, it defies logic to think that people that immigrate from latin america are going to unite with black people to fight against white supremacy

you cant fight white supremacy with white supremacy, black people will end up being screwed with that strategy

and in fact it is you who is engaging in emotion by 1) some corny ass bio essay that made me fall asleep and which has no defense to the assertion of you being a coward 2) by trying to arouse sympathy for illegal immigrants when in instead black people should engage in cold, logical geopolitical analyses

This is a stupid emotional argument.

Illegal immigrants shouldn't vote because they aren't citizens.

Permanent workers also shouldn't vote because they aren't citizens.

The right to vote and change a country and it's direction is something only citizens should have. This makes sure they aren't unwillingly beholdeb to foreign interest.

Further, it sets up an easy election manipulating issue.


The fact that you can't discuss anything without trying to make it merely about race just shows how out of touch with reality you are.

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

The right to vote and change a country and it's direction is something only citizens should have. This makes sure they aren't unwillingly beholdeb to foreign interest.

They immigrate here because they have no interest in the foreign nations they came from. They're here to make America great. They should be represented. It's time for illegal suffrage.

@newworldafro you can post your proof that millions of illegals voted in this thread if you want.

 

[Pressure]

They immigrate here because they have no interest in the foreign nations they came from. They're here to make America great. They should be represented. It's time for illegal suffrage.

@newworldafro you can post your proof that millions of illegals voted in this thread if you want.

I love this thread

 

[theworldismine13]

This is a stupid emotional argument.

Illegal immigrants shouldn't vote because they aren't citizens.

Permanent workers also shouldn't vote because they aren't citizens.

The right to vote and change a country and it's direction is something only citizens should have. This makes sure they aren't unwillingly beholdeb to foreign interest.

Further, it sets up an easy election manipulating issue.


The fact that you can't discuss anything without trying to make it merely about race just shows how out of touch with reality you are.

the thread topic is about race. the threadstarter said that we should let illegal immigrants vote to counteract the white republican vote

im simply pointing out that white supremacy is just as prevalent in latin american culture as in north american culture so thats why the idea of the threadstarter is not a good strategy

there is no emotion, its simple logic using simple historical facts

why are you trying to downplay racism and white supremacy in latin america? why are you suggesting that black people ignore the 500 years of black oppression in latin america in analyzing issues of immigration?

 

[Pressure]

the thread topic is about race. the threadstarter said that we should let illegal immigrants vote to counteract the white republican vote

im simply pointing out that white supremacy is just as prevalent in latin american culture as in north american culture so thats why the idea of the threadstarter is not a good strategy

there is no emotion, its simple logic using simple historical facts

why are you trying to downplay racism and white supremacy in latin america? why are you suggesting that black people ignore the 500 years of black oppression in latin america in analyzing issues of immigration?

you really aren't smart.


How is all this whining you do going to get you some money or advance yourself?

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

the thread topic is about race. the threadstarter said that we should let illegal immigrants vote to counteract the white republican vote

im simply pointing out that white supremacy is just as prevalent in latin american culture as in north american culture so thats why the idea of the threadstarter is not a good strategy

there is no emotion, its simple logic using simple historical facts

why are you trying to downplay racism and white supremacy in latin america? why are you suggesting that black people ignore the 500 years of black oppression in latin america in analyzing issues of immigration?

Perhaps these illegals left their Latin American countries to escape white supremacy. They're a reliable Democratic voting bloc. There's no reason they shouldn't have the vote.

 

[theworldismine13]

you really aren't smart.


How is all this whining you do going to get you some money or advance yourself?

so me pointing out 500 years of the oppression of black people in latin america is me "whining" and "making it about race"

you are taking your c00ning to incredible heights, you really should stop

 

[theworldismine13]

Perhaps these illegals left their Latin American countries to escape white supremacy. They're a reliable Democratic voting bloc. There's no reason they shouldn't have the vote.

there are exceptions here and there but overall immigrants from latin america ARE white supremacist

they are not escaping white supreamcy, they are escaping the economic ruins and colonial leftovers of the defeated white supremacist who happened to speak spanish

you dont stop being a white supremacist when you get a visa or jump the border, i think you are confused because you dont understand the history of latin america