Illinois Becomes 1st State To Eliminate Cash Bail

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CrimsonTider said:
We would hope the innocent never get charged with anything

Why is this good for first time offenders?

You cool with someone that broke into your house being let out of jail because it was their 1st time?
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Bail is just a deposit to insure a defendant reports back on the court date. That's all it is. Statistics show defendants overwhelmingly report back on their court dates. If the state can prove that a defendant is a threat to society or a flight risk, the Judge has always had the ability to keep the defendant locked up. That doesn't change. Its just a tool by law enforcement to get people to plea down, ruining the lives of poor innocent people. Plea down and get a criminal record or wait it out in jail and lose your job. That's a lose/lose proposition.
 
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inndaskKy said:
Because it's a good thing breh.

There are way more people whose lives are needlessly destroyed because of an unnecessary bail amount than there are lives that get destroyed because someone was not in jail because of a lack of bail.

Judges will have to make a decision on whether someone poses a threat. Some will try to screw people over that way but in the long run it will create a more transparent system in which people's cases will have to be judged on an individual basis.

There is no reason to uphold an unequal system in which a person's freedom depends on how much money they have access to.
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Just so you understand what caliber of intellect you're dealing with here, that poster quoted a case of a Tulsa police officer who was suspected of murder getting released on $825,000 bail, and decided it was a reason to support cash bail. I'm not kidding.

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How Often Do Murder Suspects Get Out On Bond

ktul.com ktul.com

You got clowns like @Rhakim that will tell you Illinois is doing a great thing by getting rid of cash bail but he’s wrong like he usually is
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Try and follow that logic. Murderous cop gets out on cash bail, therefore cash bail is good and we should keep it.
 
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Also, I just noticed in the OP of that thread that @CrimsonTider was complaining about:

A man awaiting trial for murder has now been charged with a second Birmingham killing.

Jarvas Tremaine Henderson is charged with capital murder in the May 16 slaying of 83-year-old veteran Daniel Garrick, Birmingham police announced Wednesday. The charge is capital because authorities say Garrick was killed during a burglary.

In July, Henderson was of three people charged with murder in the Father’s Day murder of Justin Jai Brown. He has been in the Jefferson County Jail since July 12.
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And he quoted that article and wrote:

CrimsonTider said:
"Big news in Birmingham today is a man out on bond awaiting murder a trial killed and 83 year old man

These judges continue to grant bond to people charged with violent crimes if they’re not a flight risk or repeat offender or if it isn’t a high profile case
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Notice - the first murder the guy was charged with came in June, and the article said, "he has been in the Jefferson County Jail since July 12." The second murder charges, which came in September, where for a murder in May that was committed BEFORE THE OTHER MURDER EVEN HAPPENED.

He wasn't even out on bail. :snoop:
 
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