Illmatic and Infamous Are NOT Mainstream Hip Hop Albums? True or False

[Art Barr]

Breh, that's like saying Outkast was an underground group. Southern Hip Hop wasn't selling like that in 1994 and I could argue that most of Kast's spins was coming from the South. SPCM was a breakthrough album for The South considering Geto Boys was the closest thing to a Kast album that was selling before Kast. Kriss Kross was kiddie rap and Arrested Development were pretty much one album wonders. Then there were the bass groups like 95 South, 69 Boyz, and music like 2LiveCrew.

No outcast was a mainstream group that was as large a pop group as any group for the era.

Souls of mischief were grassroots popular incomparison. As kast were the southern souls of mischief pimp gangsta commercial attempt.
That of course worked. With the direction of the prison industrial economy being used to further perpetrate the issues.
the government purposefull grafted.
onto black people with the crqck epidemic

They were everywhere. They are one of the early communications Act groups.


Good discussion because I do nOt think people realize. Rap being this mainstream thing was not always the case.
The push to make rap this scapegoat thing. Has been engineered and pushing full steam ahead since April of 1993.
In April of 1993.
The actual we hate rap commercial radio station vans. Had a change of business model. In 1993 those radio station vans with sounds.
used to pull up to school and play what the industry wanted to become the commercial boom for rap.

So since then.

Is when it became obvious. It was some agenda in marketing rap.

As real talk.
no one but culture based people. Paid any attention to the pillars.
Young people were house back then. Or commercial.new jack swing. Where they just did not have a house duck scene to know they were ducks..



Art Barr

 

[Sccit]

Of course, Tip helped them sell records. "One Love" is not only a single, but its one of Nas's most beloved songs.

Mobb got more help from Tip, which was sound. And I don't have to tell you how big of an influence Tribe's sound was on Hip Hop even on The Bay (Pharcyde, Souls of Mischief) to even Down South (Outkast).

PHARCYDE NOT THE BAY, BUT YEA

 

[The Dust King]

this is one of the best threads the Coli has ever had and a true throwback to the quality thread days of SOHH

salute ² SoHH legends

i honestly cant fukkin pick a side LOL

and im born and raised in the Q

 

[ShaDynasty]

I would say they're mainstream by virtue of being consistently popular for 25 years. Not everything thats mainstream or even pop is just wack and sellout - sometimes things become popular because they're good.

At this point those albums are some of the most influential, classic examples of the genre. People properly checking out the genre for the first time might listen to them.

Were they mainstream at the time? I guess, because they were big budget major label albums despite later being more influential to the underground than mainstream.

 

[The Dust King]

Were they mainstream at the time? I guess, because they were big budget major label albums despite later being more influential to the underground than mainstream.

this comment sums up the thread

they are both LOL