illmatic deserves all the praise.

[mobbinfms]

Sales do matter when the term “classic” gets thrown around cuz that means a wide number of people deen it a great product.

Not necessarily.
There’s always a multitude of factors to look at.
It’s pretty obvious why an album like Tical would outsell Illmatic. And it’s not a direct result of quality.

Id like to know your opinion on what songs on ironman are weak. Cuz the 9 i named are all 5/5. Infact

These 5

Daytona 500
All that i got is you
Winter wars
Motherless child
Soul controller

Can easily go against the top 5 of illmatic.

It’s not about particular songs on Ironman being weak though.
I love Ironman, I just love Illmatic a whole lot more.

And I disagree that those five songs could go up against the five best on Illmatic.

 

[daze23]

I shine a light on perpetrators like a cop's car

 

[daze23]

nas was never apart of a group that kills half your list

I was trying to make this point in another thread about "debuts". if dudes were part of a group, I can't really call their solo album a "debut"

I'm still trying to figure out how someone listed Madvillainy as a debut

 

[Rembrandt]

The only song that could even be considered weak is "One Time 4 Your Mind," and even then, he was still rhyming for his life.

That's really good for a weak song. I was really vibing to that.

Though right after, he really talked that shyt on represent.

 

[Newportbox]

2pacalypse now >>>> illmatic

Pac stans wildin.

 

[Mike the Executioner]

That's really good for a weak song. I was really vibing to that.

Though right after, he really talked that shyt on represent.

Nas was a killer on "Represent." You have that Premier beat which sounds like impending danger, like it's time for you to pay for your sins. Then Nas just slaughters it for three whole verses.

 

[pointproven214]

This rhythmatic explosion, is what your frame of mind has chosen
I'll leave your brain stimulated, nikkaz is frozen
Speak with criminal slang, begin like a violin
End like Leviathan, it's deep well let me try again
Wisdom be leakin out my grapefruit troop
I dominate break loops, givin mics men-e-straul cycles
Street's disciple, I rock beats that's mega trifle
And groovy but smoother than moves by Villanova
You're still a soldier, I'm like Sly Stone in Cobra
Packin like a rasta in the weed spot
Vocals'll squeeze glocks, MC's eavesdrop
Though they need not to sneak
My poetry's deep, I never fell
Nas's raps should be locked in a cell
It ain't hard to tell

 

[Lord Mecca]

Not realizing I am THE cleverist and you cant beat me in an argument cuz yall lack the passion for te subject.

I can name one HUNDRED albums with equal tracklists.

What argument? You came into an Illmatic thread tryin to argue... ain't nobody arguing with your dumbass.

 

[Young/Nacho\Drawz]

 

[Rembrandt]

Nas was a killer on "Represent." You have that Premier beat which sounds like impending danger, like it's time for you to pay for your sins. Then Nas just slaughters it for three whole verses.

That who end stretch was just fire after fire.

fukk, man, this is why I kept scrapping my debut. I can't release music on some bullshyt anymore

 

[Rembrandt]

Which one first? I heard cube and some of regulate.

 

[mobbinfms]

That Mac Mall album is so underrated. His second album was amazing too.

 

[mobbinfms]

Which one first? I heard cube and some of regulate.

All of them. Can’t speak on Mystikal as I’ve never heard an album from him.
I would start with Cube too.

 

[LiveFromLondon]

It does but so does It Was Written, Nasir was spitting on anotther level on that one

 

[ejthompson23]

It was written is a million times better...illmatic is mostly boom bap trash outside of 3 songs...not even the best NY album In 1994