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That remains the main problem. People won't educate themselves & just regurgitate what another person has stated. That's exactly why their is such a high number of misinformed people out here, especially on this site.

Obama helped one small group of farmers who had already had the process of farmers reforms in progress before Obama got ejected :dead:

Can you name the specific black businesses that Obama funneled money into.
 

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This is just not true. Obama funneled money to black owned business and farms. The free community college initiative will overwhelmingly benefit black people. Obamacare has overwhelmingly helped black people. And there's plenty more.

You gotta educate yourself beyond the news headlines.

I can see why you have a woat banner :laff:
 

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Let's say we do everything you mention: we educate our people on investing money wisely, starting businesses, and the importance of voting.

How would that change anything if every election cycle democrats are guaranteed to get 85% of the black vote without giving anything in return?
I don't feel like youre reading any of the posts you are quoting me in. This is where consistency comes in. Invest your money consistently over a long period of time. Show up to the polls. Education. All these things shine a spot light on us and demand the attention of politicians, but only if we unite and stay consistent. Its not only the vote. The system doesn't care about us because no matter what happens we continue to support their businesses instead of building our own. We continue to tear eachother down instead of uniting.
 

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Obama helped one small group of farmers who had already had the process of farmers reforms in progress before Obama got ejected :dead:

Can you name the specific black businesses that Obama funneled money into.

Are nikkas really trying to give Obama credit for that? That case has been in litigation since the 90s and was settled in 1999.
 

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This is just not true. Obama funneled money to black owned business and farms. The free community college initiative will overwhelmingly benefit black people. Obamacare has overwhelmingly helped black people. And there's plenty more.

You gotta educate yourself beyond the news headlines.

I can see why you have a woat banner :laff:
 

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How much are those improvements are due to us voting?
All of them come from participating in the system. Be that voting, protesting, becoming politicians ourselves, etc, etc

We are still at the bottom on every socioeconomic level in spite of voting, this system aint built for us.
We are attempting to erase 400 years of the system being against us. It will sure take more than 50 years to do that

If we are not playing the game like the majority, by backing our demands with $ then our vote means jack shyt, worth nothing more than that bullshyt i voted sticker and button that you are so giddy about receiving.
The majority is not doing that. In this country the minority, the 1% has most of the political power. We can combat that by getting people in office that want to reverse campaign finance laws, in order to put the power back into the people's hands.
 

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I don't feel like youre reading any of the posts you are quoting me in. This is where consistency comes in.

I'm reading your posts, you're just typing a lot of cliche phrases with no real substance behind it.

Invest your money consistently over a long period of time.

Be specific. Invest our money in what? And how will that investment cause Democrats to take black voters seriously when we've been giving them our votes for the last 70 years without anything in return?

Show up to the polls.

We do show up to the polls, especially for the last election cycle. Black voter turnout was higher than whites, and we received nothing in 8 years of Obama being in office:

Black voter turnout exceeds white voter turnout, even in states with strict ID laws, pundit claims

Education.

Again, be specific. Education in what? And how will education help us when black people vote Democrats consistently every election and get nothing in return?

All these things shine a spot light on us and demand the attention of politicians, but only if we unite and stay consistent. Its not only the vote. The system doesn't care about us because no matter what happens we continue to support their businesses instead of building our own. We continue to tear eachother down instead of uniting.

Again, let's say we stop supporting white businesses and start supporting black ones and we build our own. How will that change the fact that Democrats still receive 85% of the black vote every election cycle and don't have to promise anything tangible in return?
 

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No, the reason politicians don't take black voters seriously is because no matter how many times they do absolutely nothing for black people, they can pretty much guarantee they'll get 60-80% of the black vote.

Every election season black people are told how important it is to vote, but we're never told what we're getting in exchange for our vote. Obama got over 90% of the black vote running on a campaign of hope. Not investments in black neighborhoods, not investment in black education, not a promise to tackle the systematic racism in all levels of the private/public sector; but hope.

I've voted for free, and I'm not doing that anymore. If a candidate wants my vote, he either has to directly address either reparations for African Americans, or give a specific amount of money he's going to earmark for the creation of black owned and operated businesses. Without that I'll keep my black ass home on election day.

Those are all legit concerns but recognize you are only a part of 12% of this nation...Its not logistical to address ALL of your concerns. NOW what you CAN do is vote in your local shyt, get your agenda pushed from the ground up. In a state like Georgia or South Carolina or Alabama, there's NO reason why every level of government shouldn't be JAM PACKED with black leadership. If all the southern states just got swept up in Black solidarity and nationalism, you have one of the most vital regions in the country now run by virtually ALL Black people...and THAT is what the federal government CAN'T ignore.

But as long as we kick rhetoric and support weak candidates (yes even some black candidates are WEAK AS fukk) it can't happen. But a reason isn't a cause for perpetuation. We CAN change that.
 

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Those are all legit concerns but recognize you are only a part of 12% of this nation...Its not logistical to address ALL of your concerns.

I never listed all of my concerns. I listed two issues that I felt are vitally important.

NOW what you CAN do is vote in your local shyt, get your agenda pushed from the ground up. In a state like Georgia or South Carolina or Alabama, there's NO reason why every level of government shouldn't be JAM PACKED with black leadership. If all the southern states just got swept up in Black solidarity and nationalism, you have one of the most vital regions in the country now run by virtually ALL Black people...and THAT is what the federal government CAN'T ignore.

But as long as we kick rhetoric and support weak candidates (yes even some black candidates are WEAK AS fukk) it can't happen. But a reason isn't a cause for perpetuation. We CAN change that.

The conversation is about the presidential elections, I'm not sure what you're bringing up state elections :patrice:
 
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