Im not voting and my bf going in on me

[PoPimp84]

All of them come from participating in the system. Be that voting, protesting, becoming politicians ourselves, etc, etc

Ok but how but does voting for an official how doesn't care about your interest going to help? We as a people have specific needs no different from any other special interest group but the subject of doing anything for us is considered divisive and none of the candidates will really address it. Voting for someone who is empathetic but wont really address your needs leaves us in the same position. Lastly voting for our own is good but ultimately pointless if they're not held accountable once in office. Case in point Obama.

We're are attempting to erase 400 years of the system being against us. It will sure take more than 50 years to do that

So how is voting for officials who are upholding the system going to help?

The majority is not doing that. In this country the minority, the 1% has most of the political power. We can combat that by getting people in office that want to reverse campaign finance laws, in order to put the power back into the people's hands.

I meant in terms of special interest groups, you better believe they have lobbyists on deck paid by pulled resources. Since you yourself said the campaign finance laws are in place, why do you think your vote would matter without the funds and a plan in place? Those people are not in office now who will change campaign finance reform so you kinda killed your own argument on the importance of voting

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Ok but how but does voting for an official how doesn't care about your interest going to help?

You wouldn't vote for that person.

We as a people have specific needs no different from any other special interest group but the subject of doing anything for us is considered divisive and none of the candidates will really address it.

There's always resistance to change. But there definitely are politicians speaking to our issues.

Voting for someone who is empathetic but wont really address your needs leaves us in the same position. Lastly voting for our own is good but ultimately pointless if they're not held accountable once in office. Case in point Obama.

There's no way to know unless you get them in office. Not voting and letting someone in who isn't empathetic to our needs would be worse.

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So how is voting for officials who are upholding the system going to help?

You vote for someone who will change the system. Or you become an official yourself, and change it yourself.

I meant in terms of special interest groups, you better believe they have lobbyists on deck paid by pulled resources. Since you yourself said the campaign finance laws are in place, why do you think your vote would matter without the funds and a plan in place?

The average American citizen will never have enough money to compete with special interest groups. There are people in government today fighting to change that. Even if they personally don't give a fukk about black people, it would be beneficial for us to support those people so we can get somebody in office that does give a fukk.

 

[Biscayne]

How can you say this when we have historical evidence of the effectiveness of protesting.
We also need to be selective with where our money goes as well.
People don't realize that change will take everyone. If we continue with this attitude that this doesn't matter and that doesn't matter nothing will ever change, and I don't mean to be rude but the way you're talking sounds like the words of a defeated person, but on the other hand you seem like you have the passion of a person that belongs on the front lines holding a sign. Imagine if you took that energy and focused it in the right direction.

How we spend our money is paramount. More than protesting, more than voting, how the Black community spends their money can change soooooooo much in the community. So, so much.

 

[Black Magisterialness]

I never listed all of my concerns. I listed two issues that I felt are vitally important.



The conversation is about the presidential elections, I'm not sure what you're bringing up state elections

Because the state elections dictate who gets pushed forward FOR the presidential elections. The GOP is too weak and fractured by the Tea Party wave of a couple years ago. Because the people that DID come out to vote were nuts. They didn't address the shyt internally THEN. You had the Cliven Bundy and the sort being hailed as heroes by fox news but when a political equivalent of that ideology came forward not even Fox News and the states couldn't stop it.

Local elections are what get us to what is important in national ones. Look at the Supreme Court nomination, the government shut downs, Obamacare...these are all things that can and will affect ALL Americans in the coming generation and mid-term/local elections are why those things a stonewalled in D.C.

 

[PoPimp84]

You wouldn't vote for that person.

so you see my point. In this case none of the candidates are viable. Therefore im withholding my vote.

There's always resistance to change. But there definitely are politicians speaking to our issues.

Talk is cheap, major reform is needed. Many have spoken on our issues and many have upheld the system that detriments us.

There's no way to know unless you get them in office. Not voting and letting someone in who isn't empathetic to our needs would be worse.

Yet voting for someone who appears empathetic but is not has the same outcome... ie bill clinton. Thats the point im trying to make none are concerned about our interest.

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You vote for someone who will change the system. Or you become an official yourself, and change it yourself.

I adhere to Malcoms philosophy, a ballot is a bullet, i dont shoot until i see a viable target. None of the targets seem viable in my estimation so im not shooting this go round.

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The average American citizen will never have enough money to compete with special interest groups. There are people in government today fighting to change that. Even if they personally don't give a fukk about black people, it would be beneficial for us to support those people so we can get somebody in office that does give a fukk.

I beg to differ, black peoples spending power is tremendous, our spending power rivals most countries gdp. If our resources are pooled then our interest can finally be met instead of wasting our votes on those who dont care. Until then you are free to exercise your right and ill exercise my right not to

 

[MeachTheMonster]

so you see my point. In this case none of the candidates are viable. Therefore im withholding my vote.

One of the candidates has been speaking and fighting directly for your issues for decades.

Talk is cheap, major reform is needed. Many have spoken on our issues and many have upheld the system that detriments us.

Talk has to happen before action.

Yet voting for someone who appears empathetic but is not has the same outcome... ie bill clinton. Thats the point im trying to make none are concerned about our interest.

No. Another bush term instead of Clinton would have been way worse. It would not have been "the same outcome"

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I adhere to Malcoms philosophy, a ballot is a bullet, i dont shoot until i see a viable target. None of the targets seem viable in my estimation so im not shooting this go round.

I'd say you should read a bit about the candidates.

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I beg to differ, black peoples spending power is tremendous, our spending power rivals most countries gdp. If our resources are pooled then our interest can finally be met instead of wasting our votes on those who dont care. Until then you are free to exercise your right and ill exercise my right not to

You are repeating a misleading argument here.

Check this out
When It Comes to Black Buying Power, Don't Believe the Hype

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Because the state elections dictate who gets pushed forward FOR the presidential elections. The GOP is too weak and fractured by the Tea Party wave of a couple years ago. Because the people that DID come out to vote were nuts. They didn't address the shyt internally THEN. You had the Cliven Bundy and the sort being hailed as heroes by fox news but when a political equivalent of that ideology came forward not even Fox News and the states couldn't stop it.

Local elections are what get us to what is important in national ones. Look at the Supreme Court nomination, the government shut downs, Obamacare...these are all things that can and will affect ALL Americans in the coming generation and mid-term/local elections are why those things a stonewalled in D.C.

Breh I have no clue what the fukk you're talking about right now. We're talking about voting presidential elections and you're mentioning the tea party

 

[LV Koopa]

People always seem to equate voting to know whats going on in the world. Sad thing 99% of people who are on here know very little of whats going on in the world.

Only thing I'd be critical of you for is not being informed. I've never understood wanting to keep one's head in the sand. Very few things I find less attractive in a woman than purposeful ignorance.

I will say, dont suscribe to the whole notion of "they died for your right to vote" as if you're obligated to vote. I hate that mentality. No, they died for your right to have a choice. Thats called freedom. Far too many Black people champion collectivism. Besides, considering you admitted to not being informed, that's a good enough reason in itself why you shouldnt be voting anyway.

repped the two realest posts in here

 

[Medicate]

@My Name Is My Naaame Just wanted to add for you....go study the 2000 election....I voted in that election and was just as gleeful and hopeful back then..... learned my lesson with the fckboy shyt they were into.....that's about the time I was as dumb as these drones in here and then woke up after that.........we need to concentrate on education and self defense, while connecting back to the motherland in any function economically or socially...building bridges to where we have ties....the bridges have burned here in Amerikkka....there are none.....the sideshow your boyfriend is brainwashed by...don't give a fck about he or your vote....its just another added branch of support for their INTERESTS...which is in who has the biggest pockets..........

Tell your boyfriend to look at the politics there in Illinois and Chicago specifically. They've done nothing before Obama during the tenure and will not after......Only person getting rewarded for voting in 2008 is Obama....he gets a Library in his name on the Southside, while the genocide and slow regentrification of a "black stronghold" continues around it...........

 

[Ronnie Lott]

You wouldn't vote for that person.


There's always resistance to change. But there definitely are politicians speaking to our issues.


There's no way to know unless you get them in office. Not voting and letting someone in who isn't empathetic to our needs would be worse.

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You vote for someone who will change the system. Or you become an official yourself, and change it yourself.

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The average American citizen will never have enough money to compete with special interest groups. There are people in government today fighting to change that. Even if they personally don't give a fukk about black people, it would be beneficial for us to support those people so we can get somebody in office that does give a fukk.

fukkin comedy

 

[MeachTheMonster]

fukkin comedy

Get your worldview from youtube personalities brehs

 

[Mfalme_Perez]

@Op I'm not voting and probably never will.

 

[Deutsche Bank]

He the type that sit and watch msbnc literally all day,everyday(watching now)
Me,I'm 22yo and not even registered to vote.
He's basically shytting on my character.I'm a pessimist,don't want a voice,that's what they want.telling me how my life depends on it
He's reallyat me about it
He had me for a minute but I'm really like
They don't give a fukk about black people
But always pandering come election,like they really gone come up wit policies to specifically help us
fukk a"going wit the lesser of the two evils"shyt
fukk them allI'm not participating in their shyt show.I'd be wasting my time.Everybody knew Hilary had next 8 years agobut I guess our vote counts
And don't get me started on Trump
I don't give a fukk enough and if that makes me a bad person

God bless Amerikkka

fukk dudes that watch MSNBC all day in 2016, brehettes.

 

[Deutsche Bank]

He say he a liberal conservative democratI don't know if he was joking or not

Y'all should vote for Gary Johnson.

 

[newworldafro]

We going act like Cruz wasn't born in Canada??? ....

I'm just at people voting for someone that is not even eligible to be President.......??